Dr. Aafia Siddiqui Guilty of US murder attempt

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^What makes you think "they" wouldn't torture? Just because they sit on the very top somewhere doesn't make them any less like us! If ordinary, unpopular, powerless people like us can do bad in society against the norms or laws, what makes you think power hungry or people with already power in their hands can't do it?! That's ridiculous! And as of now they still DON'T have legit proof she did it! Why is it hard to even "believe" a little bit that this could happen? Why do people live in la la land?

Open your eyes!

 

[aadil77]

^Don't get worked up sis over the lies of non-muslims,she will get her justice whether in this world or the next.

The taliban are going to come to a deal by trading a US soldier they have captive for her freedom. If not they'll execute him.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

I've just had enough of the crap we have to hear all the time. Seriously, enough is enough.

She is just one out of so many...Allahu Musta'an.

HasbunAllahu wa ni'mal wakeel...

"[Allah (Alone) is Sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer of affairs (for us).]''

 

[Supreme]

^^What makes you think "they" wouldn't torture? Just because they sit on the very top somewhere doesn't make them any less like us! If ordinary, unpopular, powerless people like us can do bad in society against the norms or laws, what makes you think power hungry or people with already power in their hands can't do it?! That's ridiculous! And as of now they still DON'T have legit proof she did it! Why is it hard to even "believe" a little bit that this could happen? Why do people live in la la land?

Open your eyes!

America cannot legally conduct torture on its own soil. If you think they have conducted torture, and have sufficient proof, then take it to the courts. I'm just judging based off what I've read. I couldn't care less what god this woman worships or doesn't worship, and neither do the US authorities- a wannabe murderer is a wannabe murderer even in the face of Islamophobia accusations.

 

[جوري]

so true they can't conduct torture on their own soil so they go conduct it in cuba and without trial.

funny stuff.

 

[سيف الله]

Salaam

This is an excellent discussion on this baffling case.

Ignoring Torture Claims and Questionable Evidence, New York Jury Convicts Pakistani Scientist Aafia Siddiqui

A New York jury has convicted the US-educated Pakistani neuroscientist Aafia Siddiqui of attempted murder for shooting at US forces while jailed in Afghanistan in 2008. None of the Americans were injured, but Siddiqui was shot and wounded while in US custody. Human rights groups have long alleged that Siddiqui was forcibly disappeared by Pakistani authorities in 2003 and interrogated and tortured at the behest of the United States. In her testimony, Siddiqui claimed to have been held in a US secret prison. We speak to Siddiqui family spokesperson Tina Foster of the International Justice Network and Petra Bartosiewicz, an independent journalist who has been closely following Siddiqui’s case.

JUAN GONZALEZ: We begin today with one of the most baffling cases in the so-called war on terror, the story of thirty-seven-year-old Aafia Siddiqui.

On Wednesday, a New York court convicted the American-educated Pakistani neuroscientist of attempted murder for shooting at US soldiers and FBI agents while detained in Afghanistan in 2008.

Back in 2003, Aafia Siddiqui was wanted by law enforcement and the FBI and suspected of links to al-Qaeda leadership. But the MIT-trained scientist had mysteriously disappeared along with her three children, two of whom are US citizens. She reappeared five years later in Afghanistan with her oldest son and was arrested on suspicion of carrying chemicals and notes referring to “mass-casualty attacks” in New York.

Aafia Siddiqui was not tried on terrorism charges or for her alleged ties to al-Qaeda. The case against her rested on events that took place the day after she was arrested in Afghanistan in July of 2008. The prosecution said she grabbed an unattended rifle and opened fire on a group of US soldiers and FBI agents who were questioning her. None of the Americans was injured, but Siddiqui was shot and wounded while in US custody.

Video and transcript

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/2/4/ignoring_torture_claims_and_questionable_evidence

I doubt very much she's been tortured, what with torture being illegal and everything! This is America, not China, we're talking about.

Hehehe naive, Americans dont do torture eh? Guantanamo, Bagram, 'extraordinary Rendition' Abu Ghraib, they even outsource its torture to other countries so they don't get their hands 'dirty'. Plus if you look at American history (eg, Vietnam 1960s - 1970s, Central America 1980s etc etc) you'll see that they have no qualms about torturing people or backing torturers when it serves there interests.

 

[Chuck]

^^ thanks for laying out facts brother, I hope it opens deniers eyes. What if it was their mother, sister, or daughter.

 

[Uthman]

I agree ^^

This has been an ongoing case for some time and there have been many articles written about it. Let me say that what has happened to this woman is completely unjust.

By the way, I am usually the first person to condemn the public wrong action of a Muslim committed in the name of Islam and so there is really nothing desparate about me saying this.

 

[جوري]

lots of luck with anyone Muslim or educated in general getting a 'jury of their peers' in the U.S when 75% are walking hicks and the rest are disqualified lest they God forbid sway the Jury in an educated manner!

talk to me again about justice for the people..

7asbona Allah wa'ni3ma alwakeel

 

[IslamicRevival]

Oh yes, she did nothing wrong or out of the ordinary! Just tried to kill a bunch of innocent people! Nothing wrong with that, is there? Well I don't know why she's being treated so injustly, I mean she should be allowed to roam the streets free to try and kill people!

Sometimes I feel like sarcasm is the only way I can communicate with some people.

I doubt very much she's been tortured, what with torture being illegal and everything! This is America, not China, we're talking about.

She tried to kill who? You dont even know what the full story is. This sister was abducted 7+ years ago, humilated, tortured, mentally destroyed and Allah SWT knows what else they did to her.

This whole case is a SHAM, Once the Pakistani media found out that there was a Female prisoner being held in one of the most filthiest places on the Earth the American terrorists made up a fairytale story about Dr Aafia trying to kill a US scum of the earth servicemen. Why? To sway away from the FACT that she was abducted and tortured for 7+ years!

The trial itself was CORRUPT, The judge was corrupt, In fact everything about the American government is unjust.

Shame on you for saying she wasn't tortured you ignorant, immoral deaf, dumb and blind brainwashed lunatic. Maybe if you suffered the same way, you wouldn't coming out with blatant lies.

Just because CHINA doesn't bow down to the terrorist American government, YOU ATTACK THEM!

LONG LIVE CHINA, Granted their Government may not be the best but at least its better then the terrorist American war machine which BUTCHERS and commits open GENOCIDE in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen etc etc etc

May China CONTINUE to stick two fingers up to America!

Sometimes I feel I have to spell out the truth to brainwashed people like yourself

 

[Supreme]

so true they can't conduct torture on their own soil so they go conduct it in cuba and without trial.

funny stuff.

Indeed. Hence, why it is difficult for Americans to try and take the moral high ground in these issues.

This is an excellent discussion on this baffling case.

Thank you. This is the sort of thing I want to read. I want to see the story from a different point of view.

Hehehe naive, Americans dont do torture eh? Guantanamo, Bagram, 'extraordinary Rendition' Abu Ghraib, they even outsource its torture to other countries so they don't get their hands 'dirty'. Plus if you look at American history (eg, Vietnam 1960s - 1970s, Central America 1980s etc etc) you'll see that they have no qualms about torturing people or backing torturers when it serves there interests.

Absoloutely. Americans have even acted like Nazis in the past, especially in Vietnam.

lots of luck with anyone Muslim or educated in general getting a 'jury of their peers' in the U.S when 75% are walking hicks and the rest are disqualified lest they God forbid sway the Jury in an educated manner!

LOL. Yes, Americans are on the whole stupid.

Shame on you for saying she wasn't tortured you ignorant, immoral deaf, dumb and blind brainwashed lunatic. Maybe if you suffered the same way, you wouldn't coming out with blatant lies.

Calm down. Take a deep breath. You see, this is what happens when someone is so attached to a certain opinion that any questioning of it is taken as a personal insult.

Just because CHINA doesn't bow down to the terrorist American government, YOU ATTACK THEM!

No one's attacking China. I was using it as an example because of it's poor human rights record, or at least a record worse than that of America. I didn't mean to directly attack China. Substitute China for North Korea, Laos, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iran or any other country with a poor human rights record and you get the same idea.

LONG LIVE CHINA, Granted their Government may not be the best but at least its better then the terrorist American war machine which BUTCHERS and commits open GENOCIDE in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen etc etc etc

China is quite happily comitting 'genocide', and has done in the past, in Tibet and the Ughur dominated areas of China. Genocide is genocide. They're both as bad as each other, difference being, China treats people bad within its own borders, whereas America does it in other people's borders.

May China CONTINUE to stick two fingers up to America!

China and America are getting on relatively well actually.

While there are some irritants in Sino-American relations, there are also many stabilizing factors. The People's Republic of China and the United States are major trade partners and have common interests in the prevention and suppression of terrorism and in preventing nuclear proliferation. China is also the U.S.'s biggest foreign creditor. China's challenges and difficulties are also mainly internal, and therefore there is a desire on the part of the PRC to maintain stable relations with the United States. The Sino-American relationship has been described by top leaders and academics as the world's most important bilateral relationship of the 21st century.[3][4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China-US_relations

 

[جوري]

Indeed. Hence, why it is difficult for Americans to try and take the moral high ground in these issues.

Yeah it is always better to imprison and torture a mother and a scientist on false grounds than to take 'high moral grounds' whatever the hell that means..

It is crystal now!

 

[IslamicRevival]

Calm down. Take a deep breath. You see, this is what happens when someone is so attached to a certain opinion that any questioning of it is taken as a personal insult.

What I'm stating is not an opinion, its a proven fact. You claiming our beloved sister of Islam wasn't tortured is an insult. These are the words I would expect to hear from an Israeli/American agent

I doubt very much she's been tortured, what with torture being illegal and everything! This is America, not China, we're talking about

No one's attacking China. I was using it as an example because of it's poor human rights record, or at least a record worse than that of America. They're both as bad as each other

Its extraordinary and sick how you can justify America's actions. Its sneaky and pure satanic.

China and America are getting on relatively well actually. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China-US_relations

Says who? Wiki, A site whereby anyone with internet access can write and make changes to articles?

 

[Italianguy]

Wow, I see so many here condeming America, yet.....many of those condeming live here? I don't get the point of being in America if one Hates it with such a passion? And no one can use the excuse of not being able to afford moving out of the country to move to an Islamic country, because it's cheaper to live in any of those countries than here. Sooooooo i don't get it?

Not trying to complain, Just asking. If you hate the US, thats your own opinion, I can respect that.

 

[جوري]

Wow, I see so many here condeming America, yet.....many of those condeming live here? I don't get the point of being in America if one Hates it with such a passion? And no one can use the excuse of not being able to afford moving out of the country to move to an Islamic country, because it's cheaper to live in any of those countries than here. Sooooooo i don't get it?

Not trying to complain, Just asking. If you hate the US, thats your own opinion, I can respect that.

How does our collective moving out of America bring justice to a Muslim woman who isn't an American citizen?

 

[Italianguy]

How does our collective moving out of America bring justice to a Muslim woman who isn't an American citizen?

It doesn't, guess i should have read the whole thread. Sorry. I will read through it more thuroughly.

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

She tried to kill who? You dont even know what the full story is. This sister was abducted 7+ years ago, humilated, tortured, mentally destroyed and Allah SWT knows what else they did to her.

This whole case is a SHAM, Once the Pakistani media found out that there was a Female prisoner being held in one of the most filthiest places on the Earth the American terrorists made up a fairytale story about Dr Aafia trying to kill a US scum of the earth servicemen. Why? To sway away from the FACT that she was abducted and tortured for 7+ years!

The trial itself was CORRUPT, The judge was corrupt, In fact everything about the American government is unjust.

Shame on you for saying she wasn't tortured you ignorant, immoral deaf, dumb and blind brainwashed lunatic. Maybe if you suffered the same way, you wouldn't coming out with blatant lies.

Just because CHINA doesn't bow down to the terrorist American government, YOU ATTACK THEM!

LONG LIVE CHINA, Granted their Government may not be the best but at least its better then the terrorist American war machine which BUTCHERS and commits open GENOCIDE in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen etc etc etc

May China CONTINUE to stick two fingers up to America!

Sometimes I feel I have to spell out the truth to brainwashed people like yourself

he's full of rubbish akhee just ignore him. there's not one of his posts that is a manifestation of his own ego somehow...what else more should you except from such a person :hmm:

 

[syilla]

Wow, I see so many here condeming America, yet.....many of those condeming live here? I don't get the point of being in America if one Hates it with such a passion? And no one can use the excuse of not being able to afford moving out of the country to move to an Islamic country, because it's cheaper to live in any of those countries than here. Sooooooo i don't get it?

Not trying to complain, Just asking. If you hate the US, thats your own opinion, I can respect that.

If you read the article... they are actually condeming the crime itself made by the so called authority imsad

 

[Italianguy]

If you read the article... they are actually condeming the crime itself made by the so called authority imsad

Yeah sorry, i havent read the whole article as of yet but i will. I spoke to soon earlier. ......but i notice throughout all of the threads that Supreme has a little.....anomosity towards the US

 

[Uthman]

Please avoid personal remarks, even if it's hard.