Dr. Zakir Naik explanations & Debates

wilberhum said:
A round earth was not a new concept 1400 years ago.
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Quite:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth
It is commonly assumed that people from early antiquity generally believed the world was flat, but by the time of Pliny the Elder (1st century) its spherical shape was generally acknowledged. At that time Ptolemy derived his maps from a curved globe and developed the system of latitude and longitude (see clime). His writings remained the basis of European astronomy throughout the Middle Ages

The common misconception that people before the age of exploration believed that Earth was flat entered the popular imagination after Washington Irving's publication of The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus in 1828. In the United States, this belief persists in the popular imagination, and is even repeated in some widely read textbooks. Thomas Bailey's The American Pageant states that "The superstitious sailors ... grew increasingly mutinous...because they were fearful of sailing over the edge of the world"; however, no such historical account is known.[1] Actually, sailors were probably among the first to know of the curvature of Earth from daily observations — seeing how shore landscape features (or masts of other ships) gradually descend/ascend near the horizon.
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If you look at Medieval maps, you can see that at least some people (highly educated priests) thought the Earth was flat. Try searching for 'Mappa Mundi'.

I'm pretty sure that the ancient Greek knowledge did not reach remote places like pre-Islamic Makkah either. Even the Europeans largely forgot about it.
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Fishman said:
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If you look at Medieval maps, you can see that at least some people (highly educated priests) thought the Earth was flat. Try searching for 'Mappa Mundi'.

I'm pretty sure that the ancient Greek knowledge did not reach remote places like pre-Islamic Makkah either. Even the Europeans largely forgot about it.
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Of course lots beleived in a flat earth. But as I said, a round earth was not a new idea. And of course ancient Greek knowledge reach remote places like pre-Islamic Makkah. The world is full of traders and merchants. It was a thriving business there tool
 
wilberhum said:
And of course ancient Greek knowledge reach remote places like pre-Islamic Makkah. The world is full of traders and merchants. It was a thriving business there tool
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Are you sure that things that the average European didn't know could have been known by a man in a remote city in the desert?

The Bible contains a number of passages implying a flat Earth, and it was written/corrupted inside a powerful empire. Surely they had much easier access to the Greek knowledge, and yet they got it wrong.
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Are you sure that things that the average European didn't know could have been known by a man in a remote city in the desert?
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Average? A round earth was not a widely accepted concept even in the 14th century. I simply have shown that it was not a new idea.

The Bible contains a number of passages implying a flat Earth,
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Of course. That was the common belief. The Catholic Church even put people to death for saying otherwise. But then all of this has nothing to do with the subject.

written/corrupted
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Never want to miss a chance, do you? Sorry on that one. I totally agree. It would be other writings that we disagree on.

Surely they had much easier access to the Greek knowledge
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Access to knowledge does not make you knowledgeable. Besides as seen so often on this forum, knowledge is just denied on a basis of not liking it.
 

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