Dr. Zakir Naik

[Deep Cove]

Asalam Alaykum Warakmatulah Wabarkatuh.Is this the person you are all addressing of?Link.If so any videos recommended to new reverts would be inshallah deeply appreciated.Jazakallah kaur

 

[Tony]

I have listened to this man for many years, but lately I was looking into his `Da`wah`to an atheist and found a bit of either incorrect facts or intellectual dishonesty on his part, I could expand if anyone is curious about it.

Maash'Allah if you are correct it is a mistake and not dishonesty, Maash'Allah Dr Zakir Naik is human and has made a mistake subhan Allah wal Alhamdulillah Allah will surely forgive any tiny mistake he makes and use it to further improve The brothers awsome Da,wah project. May Allah bless Dr Zakir Naik in this life and the next, Ameen

 

[bamboozled]

Maash'Allah if you are correct it is a mistake and not dishonesty, Maash'Allah Dr Zakir Naik is human and has made a mistake subhan Allah wal Alhamdulillah Allah will surely forgive any tiny mistake he makes and use it to further improve The brothers awsome Da,wah project. May Allah bless Dr Zakir Naik in this life and the next, Ameen

Could not have said it better. End of the Day he is human.

Dont forget he is firing chapter after chapter, in arabic, then english, then he comments on it. It can get a little hectic I imagine.


Btw, I am sure someone would have said this but just a mini-bump Dr Naiks Tv Channels are

820 - SKY Peace Tv
841 - Sky Peace Tv Urdu (Mum loves that one)

 

[bamboozled]

Asalam Alaykum Warakmatulah Wabarkatuh.Is this the person you are all addressing of?Link.If so any videos recommended to new reverts would be inshallah deeply appreciated.Jazakallah kaur

Thats the man alright. I love him soo much lol.

You would really need to be more specific bro/sis. What is it you would like to know more about?

He talks about everything Mashallah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blV4lgUfobI
He clears up the meaning of Jihad, tbh cant really go wrong with him. Forward to 3mins in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbQNawjcJg4
Question about Non Veg food

http://www.youtube.com/peacetv123#play/all/uploads-all/2/5w1hCeoez3Q
For Islamic History but that is by Yusuf Qhadi, but he is amazing to Mashallah.

http://www.youtube.com/peacetv123
Check the main video on that site is really nice to.

If there is anything you would like to know just post a thread or PM me.

Btw check by post b4 this, he has his own TV channel (820Sky)

 

[qweretyq]

Maash'Allah if you are correct it is a mistake and not dishonesty, Maash'Allah Dr Zakir Naik is human and has made a mistake subhan Allah wal Alhamdulillah Allah will surely forgive any tiny mistake he makes and use it to further improve The brothers awsome Da,wah project. May Allah bless Dr Zakir Naik in this life and the next, Ameen

If it is a mistake, then surely he can be forgiven. However, upon viewing his video on evolution, it is apparent he is using copied notes or rehearsed answers rather than do research on his own.

It is blatantly obvious that he has never read Darwin's book, as his speech is inundated with factual errors and false statements. Additionally, he does not have a sound understanding of science and takes numerous quotes out of context.

His other videos, such as the one on polygamy, have numerous factual errors as well. He also contradicts the Quran in some parts.

It amazes me that many of my fellow Muslims blindly follow what he says and are so amazed by his answers that they don't bother following his statements up with research of their own.

All of the above is based on my research and watching his videos but I don't care to argue this subject further. However, if anyone wants to see where he goes wrong, I'd be glad to help point you to certain videos, but you have to examine it on your own.

 

[Tony]

If it is a mistake, then surely he can be forgiven. However, upon viewing his video on evolution, it is apparent he is using copied notes or rehearsed answers rather than do research on his own.

It is blatantly obvious that he has never read Darwin's book, as his speech is inundated with factual errors and false statements. Additionally, he does not have a sound understanding of science and takes numerous quotes out of context.

His other videos, such as the one on polygamy, have numerous factual errors as well. He also contradicts the Quran in some parts.

It amazes me that many of my fellow Muslims blindly follow what he says and are so amazed by his answers that they don't bother following his statements up with research of their own.

All of the above is based on my research and watching his videos but I don't care to argue this subject further. However, if anyone wants to see where he goes wrong, I'd be glad to help point you to certain videos, but you have to examine it on your own.

So what do you think his motivation is ? he is an amazing brother and nothing you can say about him can ever lessen the respect I have for him. Dedicated brother who has given everything to bring knowledge to people. Your entitled to your veiw even if its only you that sees it that way brother. peace and reapect

 

[Ali_008]

If it is a mistake, then surely he can be forgiven. However, upon viewing his video on evolution, it is apparent he is using copied notes or rehearsed answers rather than do research on his own.

It is blatantly obvious that he has never read Darwin's book, as his speech is inundated with factual errors and false statements. Additionally, he does not have a sound understanding of science and takes numerous quotes out of context.

His other videos, such as the one on polygamy, have numerous factual errors as well. He also contradicts the Quran in some parts.

It amazes me that many of my fellow Muslims blindly follow what he says and are so amazed by his answers that they don't bother following his statements up with research of their own.

All of the above is based on my research and watching his videos but I don't care to argue this subject further. However, if anyone wants to see where he goes wrong, I'd be glad to help point you to certain videos, but you have to examine it on your own.

I don't know if he has done some research on any science but his answers are based on the works of Harun Yahya. I have not found any errors in his answers, they sound logical all the time. Yeah, in his initial years some of his answers were ambiguous but if you ask him those questions now, he'll give you a very fair and logical response.

Contradicting the Qur'an??? you must be the first HUMAN to say that. I've seen tonnes of criticism for him and nobody ever said that he contradicts the Qur'an. Moreover, even if he makes mistakes then why do you start opposing him? He's just a human not some God sent Prophet to get his mistakes corrected the moment he commits them.

:?

 

[qweretyq]

I don't know if he has done some research on any science but his answers are based on the works of Harun Yahya. I have not found any errors in his answers, they sound logical all the time. Yeah, in his initial years some of his answers were ambiguous but if you ask him those questions now, he'll give you a very fair and logical response.

Contradicting the Qur'an??? you must be the first HUMAN to say that. I've seen tonnes of criticism for him and nobody ever said that he contradicts the Qur'an. Moreover, even if he makes mistakes then why do you start opposing him? He's just a human not some God sent Prophet to get his mistakes corrected the moment he commits them.

:?

My intention is not to question to his motivation, it's simply to analyze the accuracy of the facts he provides.
And it is a FACT that he makes numerous scientific errors.

When you say that you do not find any errors, have you watched his video on evolution?
You might be right that his answer in that video is based on Harun Yahya, but then Harun Yahya is wrong. My point is that it is ok to make mistakes, as I am sure there is tremendous pressure speaking in front of a large audience. However, taking numerous quotes out of context and providing factual scientific inaccuracies is not an honest method of argument and is not justified under any circumstance.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that his method of arguing is not honest. Too often are his arguments filled with errors and seem deceptive.
What frustrates me is that instead of thinking for themselves and analyzing his arguments, many Muslims are simply "Oh he is so wonderful I love him," and go on to blindly repeat one of his "scientific" proofs

 

[qweretyq]

I do have complaints against this man, but that is probably going off topic so I just stick to his arguments.

Those you who claim to absolutely love him, have you checked out his International Islamic School. Have you checked what they require (no TV in house, full burka all workers), what they teach (no nonmuslim friends, no associating with non-muslims at all) etc?

Full on irrational fundamentalism

My brother was enrolled in there because my mom thought that they have good Islamic studies and Arabic, and this much I agree.
The rest of my family (full of devout muslims, probably much better than me) just about had it with the school and took him out.

But this is all attacking his practice, and not his arguments, so I will refrain from saying any more unless someone wants to continue this through PM.

 

[Ali_008]

^^^ Well, if he's trying to revive the times of Rasoolullah (SallAllahu Alayhi Wasallam), is he commiting a crime?? Did any of the Sahaba had TV or anything similar to it in their homes? They're asking the children not to get too much involved with non-Muslims and thats not his view, there are two verses in the Qur'an that state this.

Surah Ale Imran (Surah # 3) verse 28
Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah.

Surah An Nisa (Surah # 4) verse 144
O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?

Those are Yusuf Ali's translation and Dr. Zakir Naik himself once said that the word used in these verses for friends has another meaning and thats "protectors", so Allah has warned us from getting too close and personal with Unbelievers. Its not that being with them is Haraam but you must not let your faith alter in their company. Association with them is rather encouraged with them when you teach them Islam. Not that you have to hammer them everyday saying "Islam is the truth!! Islam is the truth!!" but clear the misconceptions they have about us.

I can see that the school has strict practices but they're not wrong. I know it can get difficult to be a Muslim every second but the angels are recording our deeds every second and so we have to be on guard....

Coming to the errors part, please let us know the errors you've found in his arguments and if most of them are about evolution then I don't think anybody here can answer those. Moreover, evolution remains to be a matter of debate even today throughout the world, 50% of the scientists claim to have proved it and the other half don't find their proofs reliable enough to state that evolution is a fact. Lets just wait and watch.

For all those people who keep attacking the fact that Allah made man from clay and rely on evolution for their argument, I'd just say:

"Wait ye: we too are waiting."
Surah Anam (Surah # 6) verse 158

 

[Santoku]

Please expand. I am curious.

Well there is his diatribe against pigs:-

"The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate."

Really? He clearly does not know much about natural history, if you want a short life just try and interfere with the mate of a natural pig! Wild boars do not just use their tusks for rooting about.

"The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faeces and dirt"

Wrong! A pig is naturally one of cleanest animals on the planet,they may be kept in faeces but that is not their choice.

 

[qweretyq]

^^^ Well, if he's trying to revive the times of Rasoolullah (SallAllahu Alayhi Wasallam), is he commiting a crime?? Did any of the Sahaba had TV or anything similar to it in their homes?
...
Coming to the errors part, please let us know the errors you've found in his arguments and if most of them are about evolution then I don't think anybody here can answer those. Moreover, evolution remains to be a matter of debate even today throughout the world, 50% of the scientists claim to have proved it and the other half don't find their proofs reliable enough to state that evolution is a fact. Lets just wait and watch.

If you don't see the ridiculousness of your first questions, I am not going to bother replying. (Hint-Sahaba did not have TVs or cars or computers etc)

Secondly, I will stay away from arguments of his practice as I stated above. That information was just to inform those that "love" this man to look at everything he stands for and not just his "debates."

And lastly, the errors do not refer to controversial evolutionary debate, but rather about FACTS he provides and deceptive methods he uses to debate. For more info, watch those videos and read my posts above; I don't care enough to argue this further.

 

[Ali_008]

^^ what I meant was even if they had TV during their times, they would not keep one in their homes considering the fitnah it brings along. :ermm:

 

[qweretyq]

^^ what I meant was even if they had TV during their times, they would not keep one in their homes considering the fitnah it brings along. :ermm:

Weak.
You are not qualified to make such a judgement.
Also the same track of thinking that Zakir Naik uses.

I have come to realize that what I am trying to do here is hopeless. You cannot make someone study, research and learn even if the truth is in front of them (although it takes a bit of effort to get there).

 

[Ali_008]

So the judgment I made that the Sahaba were very pious people and staunch in forbidding evil wrong!!! Lets put it to a vote opcorn:

 

[qweretyq]

So the judgment I made that the Sahaba were very pious people and staunch in forbidding evil wrong!!! Lets put it to a vote opcorn:

You misunderstood me.
The judgement you made about hypothetical situations such as what they would have done if inventions were available back then is not qualified.

Why Allah chose to reveal Islam during that specific period cannot be understood by us. Hence, we cannot, and should not, speculate on how Sahaba would behave had they had bits of modern culture. We should only use their examples and behavior back then to learn how to behave for ourselves in our own time period. (There is a difference, a major one, between the last two sentences).

And saying that we can only truly practice Islam by throwing out all the TV's in our household (such as the children are taught and questioned before being admitted) is a ridiculous conclusion of the manner of thinking you posit above.

 

[qweretyq]

Before you respond, take a second to watch Zakir Naik's videos again. This time clear your head and watch him with a critical eye - Ask yourself what someone opposed to him would say. Research the passages and lines he refrences and most importantly observe his method of argument.
Then analyze the pros and cons of both stances.

This is how arguments strengthen, and philosophy grows.

But alas, I realize most people do not care or have saboor to go through such a process in learning Islam for themselves.

 

[pamuk7]

I have heard numerous lectures by Dr. Zakir Naik and I think he is absolutely amazing. His knowledge of Islam, Hinduism, and Christianity, and his sheer memory is unparalleled among the speakers that I have heard on any subject with the notable exception of his teacher Ahmed Deedat.

To you people who are claiming that he is dishonest or trying to cover up the truth, I would very much like to see what proof you have for your accusations.

Both Deedat and Naik have made pretty serious mistakes. For example, read Deedat's statement of kufr:

"It was the 12th of Rabi I., in the year of the Elephant, or the 29th of August 570 of the Christian Era that Muhummed the Praiseworthy, on whom all praise is due, was born in the sacred city of Makkah in pagan Arabia." [Ahmed Deedat - Muhammad (PBUH) The Natural Successor To Christ - Page 2].


As for Zakir Naik, he calls Christians and Jews who believe in only one God and do not associate partners with Allah as "true believers"
(Source: peacetv.in/faq/faq5_43.html).

 

[Riana17]

Asalam Alaikkum

May Allah bless us with many people like Dr Zakir Naik

Ameen ya rabb, nice thread btw

 

[Uthman]

Both Deedat and Naik have made pretty serious mistakes. For example, read Deedat's statement of kufr:

"It was the 12th of Rabi I., in the year of the Elephant, or the 29th of August 570 of the Christian Era that Muhummed the Praiseworthy, on whom all praise is due, was born in the sacred city of Makkah in pagan Arabia." [Ahmed Deedat - Muhammad (PBUH) The Natural Successor To Christ - Page 2].

I think he should be given the benefit of the doubt - this could have been an innocent mistake that he made without thinking much about it. But I do realise your language was very precise - you said the statement is one of kufr as opposed to declaring him a kaafir.