***drugs***

Assalamu Alaikum

Jazakallah Khair Brother Aech_warrior. That was very good and informayive. I seriousdly detest drugs they are no use whatsoever and people just make money by ruining innocent people's lives.

There was a boy in my school Non-Muslim who sold drugs when he first came, got into it and then started selling it out of school but eventually teachers found out and he got permanently excluded.

Assalamu Alaikum
Shakirah

Assalamu Alaikym
Shakirah
 
Greetings,
SirZubair said:
Agree - drugs are bad.

Disagree - Marijuana is addictive. It is not. Neither are Lsd,Alcohol,Cigarettes.
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You can disagree all you like, but that doesn't change the facts. All the drugs you've mentioned are addictive to a greater or lesser degree, except LSD, which is not addictive at all.

An alcoholic is someone who doesnt want to accept reality,and uses 'alcoholism' as an excuse to get drunk.
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An alcoholic is someone who suffers a powerful craving for alcohol. Withdrawing from alcohol after prolonged heavy use can be dangerous or even fatal. The serious negative effects of alcohol withdrawal make it a very difficult addiction to break.

Maybe alcoholics don't want to accept reality, but that may be both a cause and a result of their alcoholism.

As for potheads,yes it is true that they need a bigger dose to get high each time.But that doesnt mean they are addicted.
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It means they've developed a tolerance for the substance, which is an aspect of addiction.

Drugs are the best way to Numb your natural feelings - such as Sadness. People with broken hearts tend to become Marijuana users,they start drinking and all sorts.
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Hence the fact that marijuana can be psychologically addictive.

But there is no such thing as an addiction.
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I guess the medical community must have it all wrong then...

Peace
 
czgibson said:
Greetings,
Hence the fact that marijuana can be psychologically addictive.



I guess the medical community must have it all wrong then...

Peace
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* There is no such thing as 'psychologically addicted'.People are idiots.People convince themselves that they are addicted by telling themselves they are addicted to a certain drug.That is no different from a person who has an arguement,and that person knows that he/she is wrong,yet keeps on telling themselves "i am right...i am right..i am right",if that person tells himself/herself that long enough,he'll believe it to be true.

* As far as the medical community goes,i dont put my faith in them.I dont trust the medical community.
Next minute i will be putting my faith in the Bush Administration just because of someones say-so.

..not in this lifetime.

Truth is,at the end of the day,people need to adjust to reality.And if people such as You and I make excuses for them at every turn,we shouldnt complain when crazy drugged people go around killing people.If we make excuses for their so-called-addiction,we are guilty of handing them excuses for their behavior.

Thats my humble opinion on that matter.

Take care czgibson

Wa'salaam.
 
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Greetings,
SirZubair said:
There is no such thing as 'psychologically addicted'.People are idiots.People convince themselves that they are addicted by telling themselves they are addicted to a certain drug.
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You've claimed there's no such thing as psychological addiction, then you've given a pretty good definition of it!

As far as the medical community goes,i dont put my faith in them.I dont trust the medical community. So lets not go there.
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Oh well. That's your view - fair enough. But please don't start spreading misinformation about drugs if you don't even accept standard medical opinions.

Next minute i will be putting my faith in the Bush Administration just because of someones say-so.

..not in this lifetime.
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I agree, that would be one of the stupidest things anyone could do. However, unlike the Bush administration, many claims made by doctors actually have mountains of evidence to back them up.

Truth is,at the end of the day,people need to adjust to reality.And if people such as You and I make excuses for them at every turn,we shouldnt complain when crazy drugged people go around killing people.If we make excuses for their so-called-addiction,we are guilty of handing them excuses for their behavior.
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Who's making excuses?

As for the crazy drugged killers, as far as I know it's a minority of drugs that are associated with that kind of behaviour. Have you ever heard of anyone on LSD, Ecstasy, psilocybin or marijuana acting that way?

Take care czgibson
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You too, SirZubair. :)

Peace
 
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You've claimed there's no such thing as psychological addiction, then you've given a pretty good definition of it!
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You know what i was getting at :hiding:

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One of my friends Dad claims to be Addicted to LSD,you say LSD isnt addictive. Who should i be listening to? ;D


Oh well. That's your view - fair enough. But please don't start spreading misinformation about drugs if you don't even accept standard medical opinions.
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Face it my friend,they have been wrong before,in my opinion they are wrong now,and they will be wrong again and again as the days go by. :happy:

Kheir,putting all that aside,i've made my position clear on Drugs,i've heard yours and i respect your opinion.

I will now retire from this thread. Keep well :)

Wa'salaam

-Zubair
 
ok correct me if im wrong there hasnt been any deaths pertaining to the use of simply marijuana (not like oh someone was high and crashed the car kind of death) but like someone smoked pot all his life and died because of it...
 
but if you get caught here...

i can't imagine what'll happen to you

*have you heard cases in indo where they've been caught of possessing estacy pill (only one or two pills)
 
here... the law says...

death penalty for the one who posess drugs...
 
Most important of all,fear the actions you do for which the Witness will be Your Judge.

Wa'salaam.
 

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