Re: Earth is rotating according tot the Qur'an!!!!
No, let me quote what Shaykh Bin Baaz said:
According to the people knowledge (scholars of Islaam) the earth is round, for indeed Ibn Hazim and a group of other scholars mentioned that there is a consensus (unanimous agreement, Ijmaa') among the people of knowledge that it is round.This means that all of it is connected together thus making the form of the entire planet like a ball. However, Allaah has spread out surface for us and He has placed firm mountains upon it and placed the animals and the seas upon it as a mercy for us. For this reason, Allaah said:
"And (do they not look) at the Earth, how it was made FLAT (Sutihat)." [Al-Ghaashiyyah (88):20]
Therefore, it (the Earth) has been made flat for us in regards to its surface, so that people can live on it and so that people can be comfortable upon it. The fact that it is round does not prevent that its surface has been made flat. This is because something that is round and very large, if it is made flat (its surface), then its surface will become very vast or broad (i.e. having a flat appearance). Yes."
http://www.islamicboard.com/5211-post1.html
http://calgaryislam.com/imembers/mod...icle&artid=237
Why don't you quote this statement of Ibn Baz, (rahmatullah alaih),
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As far as its (earths) rotation, then I have denied it and explained the evidences denying it. However, I did not declare kufr upon the one who upholds it. I only declared kufr upon the one who says that the sun is stationary and does not run on a course because this statement collides with the clarity of the Noble Qur’an and the pure authentic Sunnah which both prove that the sun and the moon both run on a course".
(Source:
http://thetruereligion.org/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=258).
Have the ones who interpreted this studied Usul ul Quran? Do you know how long these mufassireen studied before they did Tafsir? And today we have young brothers coming out with their own explanations, Masha'Allaah.
Yes, Yes, Yes, brother, you are repeating the same things again and again. The brothers did not write a Tafsir! They said that this Aya might be speaking about the rotation of the earth. What's wrong with that saying? Why can't you accept this interpretation?
Why don't you understand that different people may interprete certain verses different? The scholars have allways differed. We can open a toppic only about the difference interpretations of certain Aya's from the Qur'an. They did differ and that's what happened between us now. If you don't want to accept our interpretation, then don't, but why keep repeating the same things over and over again?
You did not answer my question, Akhi. You are flipping between your words. This is what you have stated before: "If we quote a verse from the Qur'an or a Hadith, we have to know in which context it was said and what the scholars have said about it". And the context of this verse is the Day of Judgement.
That's your opinion.
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EARTH’S MOVEMENT IN SPACE: The earth rotates round the sun once every 365.25 days. Whilst doing so it is tilted on it’s axis at an angle of 33 degrees. As a result the seasons occur making it possible for the habitation of the planet. If the earth were not tilted on its axis the poles would have been submerged in continuous cold darkness preventing the seasonal thaw of the polar ice. The accumulating ice would eventually result in nonshifting frozen poles and little water elsewhere. The rotation of the earth around the sun was not known in the 7th century. At that time it was still thought of the earth as a nonmoving planet at the center of the universe. Due to the apparent movement of the sun, moon and stars in the sky, it was thought that they are moving around the earth. The movement of the earth in space is confirmed in the following verse: "“When you look at the mountains, you think that they are standing still. But they are moving, like the clouds. Such is the manufacture of God, who perfected everything. He is fully Cognizant of everything you do.” (Qur’an, 27:88).
Since the earth is moving in space thus everything on earth is moving with it, including the mountains.
The earth rotates about an axis going from the south to the North Pole. The main force acting on the earth is the force of gravity from the sun. Because this force acts on the center of mass of the earth it does produce any torque with respect to the axis of rotation and so the angular momentum cannot change. This is what gives us a day of constant length since prehistoric times. Not only that but the axis of rotation of earth is tilted with respect to the plane formed by the orbit of earth around the sun. This tilt is what causes the seasons to change through the year because when we are on one side of the sun the tilt causes the northern hemisphere to see the sun at closer to normal angle of incidence than when the earth is on the other side of the sun. The result is the difference in climate between summer and winter at a given geographical location. It is because the angular momentum associated with the earths almost circular trajectory about the sun is conserved that it takes exactly half a year each year to get from one side of the sun to the other". (Source:
http://www.quranm.multicom.ba/science/3e-science.htm).
"The following verse indicate clearly the movement of the earth in relation to the space around it in a very straight words that dosn't even need an interpretation, and the verse is, Sura 27 verse 88 {When you look at the mountains , you think that they are standing still. But they are moving, like the clouds. Such is the manufacture of God, who perfected everything He is fully cognizant of everything you do}.
Needless to say that because the mountains are a part of the earth that verse indicate the movement of the earth".
(Source:
http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=rarticle&raid=366&sscatid=147).
Answering Christianity wrote, "Why did Allah Almighty say in the Noble Quran that the mountains pass like the clouds in the sky do? We all know that to humans, the earth doesn't really move. Everything is standing still, except during the times of earth quakes. So what is the purpose from Allah Almighty telling us that the mountains are moving? By the way, the "mountains" here is not just limited to mountains, but rather it includes the whole ground we're standing on, since like I said, to us humans, the earth doesn't move, except during the times of earth quakes. And the mountains are obviously connected with the ground. By the way, clouds never really move away. They only rotate around the earth and travel above the earth; above land to land. So if the mountains (the whole ground of earth since the mountains are part of earth) are "moving, like the clouds", then this means that the earth is also moving in circle around its axle. So, why didn't Allah Almighty just say so?
Allah Almighty 1500 years ago did not want to make irrational and CRAZY statements that would've been refused and considered as absurd and utter nonsense to the people who lacked a great deal of knowledge about astronomy and geology. The Miracle of the Noble Quran is that while Allah Almighty made the statement in Noble Verse 27:88 acceptable to the people back then, He also included the scientific claim in it for us today, and told us that the earth does indeed move around its axle".
(Source:
http://www.animal-cruelty.com/earth_rotation.htm).
"The movement of the earth in space is confirmed in the following verse: "When you look at the mountains, you think that they are standing still. But they are moving, like the clouds. Such is the manufacture of God, who perfected everything. He is fully Cognizant of everything you do." (27:88).
Since the earth is moving in space thus everthing on earth is moving with it, including the mountains". (Source:
http://www.submission.org/life.html).
"We read, in the Quran, another clear hint to the mountains 'swim' in space which, consequently, implies that the earth moves in space since both it and the mountains are one mass: "You see the mountains deeming them firm while they pass away like clouds". (The Ant, 88). This means that the mountains which appear solid and inert really 'float' in space." (Dr. Mustafa Mahmoud, "Dialogue With An Atheist". Page 114 and 115).
The same Aya is used by thousands of 'Da3ees', including Harun Yahya, as proof that the tectonic plates of earth move the mountains. Why don't you go to them and tell them that they are not qualified to say that? Read that Tafasir about the Aya's that Zakir Naik uses, in his dawa. What did he say, that was confirmed by the mufasirien of the past? He did contradict them. Why don't you go to him and tell him that he is not qualified for that?
We do not say that everything in the Qur'an is science etc. The message of the Qur'an was not to tell us how a plant or patato grows. The Qur'an is a message, warning and glad tidings to the worlds. But we cannot deny that there is science in the Qur'an. That would be like denying of the sun during day.
You are the one making the claim and are asking me for proof?! And you ignored the links I provided you as well. Refer to my previous post Akhi.
You could not answer my question, and the reason for that is, that all mufasirien, (may Allah be pleased with them), of the past believed the earth was standing still and the sun was rotating. So why don't you follow them in this matter? That's my question to you.
The fresh and salty waters.
They thought earth was flat, sun rotated around the world?
how does sun rotate around a flat world?since one can only see it going in one direction.
did those people never travel outside their own villages?
was the no kind of shipping or travel in those days?
if they travelled how did they navigate if the thought world (earth) was flat?
were romans not ruling egypt/Israel long before ibn Baz r.a.
did they walk all the way from Italy?How did vikings or french manage to go overseas in a flat world?
I am confused
Please forgive me, my mistake, they did not believe the earth was rotating AROUND the world, but they did believe it was rotating and the earth was standing still. We do not blame them for that ofcourse, who could have imagined that the earth was rotating around the sun? :?
