Earth's Movement around the Sun

[Bittersteel]

Does or does not Islam and Quran agree with the fact that Earth revolves around the sun?

I recently found these:

"Is not He Who has made the Earth as a fixed abode……" [An-Naml (27:61)]

"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: 'O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.' (The Noble Quran, 18:86)"

well what do these mean.

I will be most greateful if you help me.Thanks amd may peace be on you.

 

[S_87]

Does or does not Islam and Quran agree with the fact that Earth revolves around the sun?

I recently found these:

"Is not He Who has made the Earth as a fixed abode……" [An-Naml (27:61)]

"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: 'O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.' (The Noble Quran, 18:86)"

well what do these mean.

I will be most greateful if you help me.Thanks amd may peace be on you.

taken from tafir ibn kathir..

"Is not He Who has made the Earth as a fixed abode……"
meaning, stable and stationary, so that it does not move or convulse, because if it were to do so, it would not be a good place for people to live on. But by His grace and mercy, He has made it smooth and calm, and it is not shaken or moved



"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: 'O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.
he followed a route until he reached the furthest point that could be reached in the direction of the sun's setting, which is the west of the earth. As for the idea of his reaching the place in the sky where the sun sets, this is something impossible, and the tales told by storytellers that he traveled so far to the west that the sun set behind him are not true at all. Most of these stories come from the myths of the People of the Book and the fabrications and lies of their heretics.

 

[Ansar Al-'Adl]

"Is not He Who has made the Earth as a fixed abode……" [An-Naml (27:61)]

Some critics claim that this verse implies that the earth doesn't move, which is truly a laughable claim. The word qaraara refers to the structure of the earth, meaning that the earth is a firm foundation upon which we can travel and construct buildings. As Omar Sarwar notes:

In Surah An-Naml, 27:61, what has been translated as a "fixed abode should be translated as a "stable resting place," as denoted by the Arabic term qarar, in this case for the innumerable inhabitants of the earth. As far as life on earth is concerned, the earth is "fixed" and "stable" enough that life can exist, evolve, flourish, perish, and regenerate on it. The verse goes on to discuss the mountains and the oceans and, therefore, does not seem to warrant a reading from an astronomical perspective at all.​

The "fixed" aspect of the earth is the solid crust of the earth.

Other verses are also used in their claim:

Verily! Allah grasps the heavens and the Earth lest they move away from their places,..." [ Fatir (35:41)]

This verse does not mean the earth is stationary at all. The arabic word tazoola implies something which vanishes from its location, or falling into disarray and chaos.

Hence, Allah SWT states that the planets are grasped firmly, which would be interpreted in scientific terms as the centripetal force involved in the earth's orbit. The earth remains in tight orbit around the sun and does not wander aimlessly through the universe.

"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: 'O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.' (The Noble Quran, 18:86)"

A very common verse used in anti-islamic claims.

The answer is that the word used, wajada means that it appeared to Dhul-Qarnayn that it set in the water. Refuted in detail here:
http://faithfreedom.com/anti_islamic_claims/zulqarnain.html

I hope this helps.

 

[Bittersteel]

thanks and so i can say that Islam accepts that Earth revolves around the sun not vice versa?

A Bangladeshi woman said that Islam teaches that Sun revolves around the Earth so I started this thread.

 

[Ansar Al-'Adl]

The woman is wrong. The earth revolves around the sun, and the sun also moves in on a fixed path.

 

[root]

Some critics claim that this verse implies that the earth doesn't move, which is truly a laughable claim. The word qaraara refers to the structure of the earth, meaning that the earth is a firm foundation upon which we can travel and construct buildings. As Omar Sarwar notes:

I normally don't like posting in "Basics of Islam" for it's a beleif issue and thus I tend to let it be. However, I would like to point out that not only does the Earth move around the sun than our "Crust" is also moving. All the continents in the world have been and continue to move.

Some critics claim that this verse implies that the earth doesn't move, which is truly a laughable claim. The word qaraara refers to the structure of the earth, meaning that the earth is a firm foundation upon which we can travel and construct buildings. As Omar Sarwar notes:

Our firm foudations are constantly on the move..............

 

[Bittersteel]

good point root.

There are mention of earthquakes in the Quran.

Qur'an 10/61: Earth Crust Movement "When you look at the mountains, you think that they are standing still. But they are moving, like the clouds.

Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl
Some critics claim that this verse implies that the earth doesn't move, which is truly a laughable claim. The word qaraara refers to the structure of the earth, meaning that the earth is a firm foundation upon which we can travel and construct buildings. As Omar Sarwar notes:

In Surah An-Naml, 27:61, what has been translated as a "fixed abode should be translated as a "stable resting place," as denoted by the Arabic term qarar, in this case for the innumerable inhabitants of the earth. As far as life on earth is concerned, the earth is "fixed" and "stable" enough that life can exist, evolve, flourish, perish, and regenerate on it. The verse goes on to discuss the mountains and the oceans and, therefore, does not seem to warrant a reading from an astronomical perspective at all.

The "fixed" aspect of the earth is the solid crust of the earth.

I think in Surah Al-Naml 27:61 it means that the Earth is a stable resting palce so we can build structures on it and livea and also explains the solidness of the earth.I hope someone explains it better.

 

[root]

and the sun also moves in on a fixed path.

It orbits the super massive black hole at the centre of our galaxy, so the sun orbits our galaxy both horizontally with a verticle wobble..

 

[Bittersteel]

I think the "fixed path" meant the orbit.

 

[root]

I

think the "fixed path" meant the orbit.

I agree........... Just making the poster aware that the sun does not move flat around the galaxy, that it moves up & down as it orbits the galaxy........

 

[Bittersteel]

I think he meant it to be the orbit too, the sun's orbit .

"It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course. (The Noble Quran, 21:33)"

anyways....

 

[Ansar Al-'Adl]

Our firm foudations are constantly on the move..............

Continental drift does not negate the firm aspedt of the crust.

Just making the poster aware that the sun does not move flat around the galaxy, that it moves up & down as it orbits the galaxy........

I never intended to imply that it was moving flat across the galaxy, as the wobble effect is common to all planetary systems.

 

[root]

I never intended to imply that it was moving flat across the galaxy, as the wobble effect is common to all planetary systems.

I know you didn't. & I am not talking the "wobble" effect.....

 

[Preacher]

Zulqarnain and place of Sunrise and Sunset!


Preacher

 

[Ummu Amatullah]

asallama alaikum
what a coincidence just this morning a sister asked this very question to an Imam of the mosque. His answer was no, the earth does't revolve around the sun.
The Quran refers to this by saying: "It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day.They all float, each in an perfect orbit" (V.36:40)asallama alaikum Allah knows best

 

[Bittersteel]

what a coincidence just this morning a sister asked this very question to an Imam of the mosque. His answer was no, the earth does't revolve around the sun.

The Earth revolves around the sun and Islam agrees with it.That Imam should be corrected.

 

[acef_is]

Does or does not Islam and Quran agree with the fact that Earth revolves around the sun?

I recently found these:

"Is not He Who has made the Earth as a fixed abode……" [An-Naml (27:61)]

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I will be most greateful if you help me.Thanks amd may peace be on you.

QARARA
Fixed, firm, a resting place.

Other then floating in an orbit, the earth is also rotating. So...

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Question
Speed of the turning of the Earth.

Basic Answer
The circumference of the Earth at the equator is 25,000 miles. The Earth rotates in about 24 hours. Therefore, if you were to hang above the surface of the Earth at the equator without moving, you would see 25,000 miles pass by in 24 hours, at a speed of 25000/24 or just over 1000 miles per hour.

Multiply by cosine of your latitude to see how fast the Earth is rotating where you are.

Earth is also moving around the Sun at about 67,000 miles per hour.

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Now, if we place some stones on a wheel and spin it on high speed. What happens....hmmm

So Allah SWT, after describing us His majesty, is telling us to believe in his Oneness(Wa'hid) & dont be from the ignorant/unbelievers

Or, Who made the earth a resting place, and made in it rivers, and raised on it mountains and placed between the two seas a barrier. Is there a god with Allah? Nay! most of them do not know! (27:61)

 

[Malaikah]

Islam is a religion, not a science. The issue of whether the earth revolves around the sun or whatever is a scientific question and one shouldnt expect Islam to have an answer to this. Just like Islam doesnt tell us the exact number stars in the galaxy, or the number of chemical elements etc...

The Quran refers to this by saying: "It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day.They all float, each in an perfect orbit" (V.36:40)asallama alaikum Allah knows best

I dont see how this implys that the sun orbits around the earth.

 

[Mawaddah]

Actually the Scholars who claim that it is the sun who revolves around the earth also have another hadeeth which they use as a daleel and it is the hadeeth in which Rasulullah asked his Sahaabah "Do you know where the sun goes everytime it sets?" So they said "Allah and his messenger knows best" So he said "It goes and prostrates at the Throne of Allah until one day it will be asked to rise from the West and that will be when a souls Tawbah will no longer benefit him"

Wallahu A;lam

 

[Ansar Al-'Adl]

Actually the Scholars who claim that it is the sun who revolves around the earth also have another hadeeth which they use as a daleel and it is the hadeeth in which Rasulullah asked his Sahaabah "Do you know where the sun goes everytime it sets?" So they said "Allah and his messenger knows best" So he said "It goes and prostrates at the Throne of Allah until one day it will be asked to rise from the West and that will be when a souls Tawbah will no longer benefit him"

Wallahu A;lam

This was answered in this thread:
http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-islam/4135-earth-flat-sun-hides-rises.html