Egyptian Muslims and Christians look out for each other

[CosmicPathos]

it is sheer stupidity to believe that there can be peaceful co-existence of Truth and Falsehood. You can choose to remain deluded Laura et al, I'd rather adopt enlightenment.

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you CosmicPathos;

it is sheer stupidity to believe that there can be peaceful co-existence of Truth and Falsehood. You can choose to remain deluded Laura et al, I'd rather adopt enlightenment

It almost seems that you are saying truth leads to conflict, as I understand truth should lead to justice, peace, mercy and forgiveness.

We are all created by the same God and the same God hears all our prayers, we should have a duty to care about all God's creation, and that means caring for each other.

In the spirit of praying for a greater interfaith tolerance and understanding.

Eric

 

[LauraS]

You can live in your own world of make belief.

I'm not living in a world of make belief, I just posted a real example of Christian and Muslim cooperation.

it is sheer stupidity to believe that there can be peaceful co-existence of Truth and Falsehood. You can choose to remain deluded Laura et al, I'd rather adopt enlightenment.

I thought Islam teaches that Muslims should live peacefully with their non-Muslim neighbours?

I'm not deluded at all, I know the troubles that are going on, but why can't I post about positive things that are happening amidst all the bad?

 

[glo]

I'm not deluded at all, I know the troubles that are going on, but why can't I post about positive things that are happening amidst all the bad?

I think it is very admirable (and important) to remain hopeful and optimistic about people of different faith living in harmony.
If we don't get it together, this whole world will be in a whole lot of trouble!

Keep flying your banner, Laura.

 

[Pygoscelis]

Laura, that photo of the two kids is beautiful and inspiring. They have not (yet) been ruined by the sort of tribal hatred that CosmicPathos represents in the quote above. Keep in mind that this is the guy who once told us he wishes death on non-muslims (though he stopped short of saying he'll kill us himself).

The important thing is to do what you have done here, and to show that peace and cooperation IS possible, and that we CAN rise above tribal hatred and division. Note all the muslim members of this forum who pressed "like" your posts (and on my last post concerning rising above tribalism). They outnumber the small but vocal ones above. The more we cooperate and come to understand each other, like the two kids in that photo, the better. Have our kids play together like those two, and in a few generations perhaps we can make attitudes like CosmicPathos' extinct.

 

[Pygoscelis]

the general rule ,is that Muslims and non-muslims should have a coexistence that based on justice and kindness ...

Thumbs up to that!

Holy Quran60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

Unfortunate that it says "forbids you not" being good to non-muslims instead of "you should" be good to not muslims, but this is something we can base cooperation on so I'm glad to see it.

the exceptions:

1- Those offensive mockers of Islam ,not to be taken as allies ..

Holy Quran 5:57 O you who believe! do not take for guardians those who take your religion for a mockery and a joke, from among those who were given the Book before you and the unbelievers; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah if you are believers.

I notice that you wrote "not be taken as allies" but the text you quote says "do not take as guardians". It doesn't tell you not to take them as friends or neighbours either, just "guardians".

I'd also point out that it says those who mock Islam, which I'd take to mean those who make fun of you for having your beliefs. I wonder if this leaves room for joking around. I'd also note a strong difference between people ridiculing your religion and people who find your religious claims nonsensical, or even those who find your religious claims non-convincing and wrong.

I take it to read that you shouldn't take as guardians those who don't respect you.... that makes perfect sense to me. I wouldn't want people who don't respect me in charge of me either.

2- Those who initiate wars against Muslims for their religion:

Well that just makes sense too. Making war on somebody for their religion shows that aggressor to be a hateful person, and likely to turn on you too. I wouldn't take people who initiate wars on muslims, or any other group of people, for their religion as allies either.

Am I reading this right? How can one get from the above to wishing death on people? It just doesn't compute.