Ehud Olmert wins Israel election

HeiGou said:
I am not. They have to let the refugees from 1948 go home too.
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If those refugees want to go home too they have two options:

1) To be fully Israeli citizen with full allegiance for State of Israel; or
2) To be Palestinian citizen with permenant residency in Israel with full cooperation to the development and security of Israel.
 
Abd'Majid said:
what if they end up becoming so powerful and make a nice base for dajjal :offended: !!!!

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Pre-1967 Israel - is very tiny piece of land. Dajjal prefers to live in cool White House rather than living in hot desert of Israel. Maybe he is instructing Bush right now!
 
^ aah i c LOL, i still mind, maybe if we gave them 1 achre of land surrounded by muslims so that we can keep an eye on everything they do. And we withhold the right to tug on their wigs!!!!

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^ do u kno what i find both weird and pathetic!!! the fact that there are sooo many able muslim leaders wiv strong iman but they are neva allowed to lead. For example some1 like sheikh shuraim, i think some1 who tries his best to follow the sunnah is more then good enough to become a leader.

weak muslim leaders... its the muslims who should take action and put into power the strong ones... there are strong ones left!!

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snakelegs said:
knuckles, how would you say he compares to sharon?
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Which Sharon are you speaking of? Sharon was going through a transition before is stroke. I think Olmert is better for the Pals than Netanyahu. Under Netanyahu the Israelis would have been extremely heavy handed. Olmert wants to be done with the conflict. He was the one that talked Sharon into giving back Gaza
 
Abd'Majid said:
^ aah i c LOL, i still mind, maybe if we gave them 1 achre of land surrounded by muslims so that we can keep an eye on everything they do. And we withhold the right to tug on their wigs!!!!

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Shouldn't you have love for the Jews considering they are people of the book?
 
knuckles said:
Which Sharon are you speaking of? Sharon was going through a transition before is stroke. I think Olmert is better for the Pals than Netanyahu. Under Netanyahu the Israelis would have been extremely heavy handed. Olmert wants to be done with the conflict. He was the one that talked Sharon into giving back Gaza
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i didn't know that olmert was the one who talked sharon in to leaving gaza. i thought they left gaza for pragmatic reasons, to be rid of its huge palestinian population. i am not sure how much sharon had "transitioned" before his stroke.
 
HeiGou said:
I am not. They have to let the refugees from 1948 go home too.
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i do not think israel will ever allow the refugees the right of return because of the demographics if nothing else. i think the most that could be hoped for is reparations. israel is committed to preserving a jewish state and very concerned that jews be the big majority.
 
snakelegs said:
i do not think israel will ever allow the refugees the right of return because of the demographics if nothing else. i think the most that could be hoped for is reparations. israel is committed to preserving a jewish state and very concerned that jews be the big majority.
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Yes. I had noticed. Thanks to Osama Bin Laden the refugees are not an issue they are going to have to discuss with anyone for decades. Probably longer.
 
Abd'Majid said:
of course :) i follow the quran ;)

PeAcE!
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Are you sure?

And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our God and your God is One, and to Him do we submit. (Qur'an 29:46)

Looks like it's saying not to dispute with the people of the book unless they have done harm to you. Obviously not all Jews have harmed you. Granted I've found things that have contradicted this in the Qur'an but that's different.
 
knuckles said:
Are you sure?

And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our God and your God is One, and to Him do we submit. (Qur'an 29:46)

Looks like it's saying not to dispute with the people of the book unless they have done harm to you. Obviously not all Jews have harmed you. Granted I've found things that have contradicted this in the Qur'an but that's different.
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ye sure knuckles, u aint found nothin that contradicts that in the quran and thats a fact!!! as for the past books they have been changed soo much and its only the quran thats been protected, only the quran remains the authentic and true world of Allah (swt) and btw NEVER EVER QUOTE OUT OF CONTEXT! and for wateva u read READ THE TAFSEER! (interpretation) and make sure u understand it otherwise u may end up looking... not so smart :p

PeAcE!!
 
Abd'Majid said:
ye sure knuckles, u aint found nothin that contradicts that in the quran and thats a fact!!! as for the past books they have been changed soo much and its only the quran thats been protected, only the quran remains the authentic and true world of Allah (swt) and btw NEVER EVER QUOTE OUT OF CONTEXT! and for wateva u read READ THE TAFSEER! (interpretation) and make sure u understand it otherwise u may end up looking... not so smart :p

PeAcE!!
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Nothing that contradicts this? Hmm maybe you're right. Opps look what I found.

O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends/protecters; they are friends/protecters of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend/protecter, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people. (Qur'an 5:51)
 
Salamalikum
fightanddie4Allaah
who is this speaker The Enemy's Plot? Very interesting
 

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