Any news on the men who killed the soldier?
Of course, it will achieve nothing. But for anyone unfamiliar with London it's worth saying that the location of this murder (Woolwich) is a very poor, deprived area with high unemployment, high immigration, and an old white working class community who feel they have lost out in every direction to incomers. The fact that two of those unwlecome incomers have now committed this atrocity pours petrol onto flames. I don't say this is right - but that's the way it is.This is really sad to hear.
How is this going to bring back the soldier that was murdered?
Of course, it will achieve nothing. But for anyone unfamiliar with London it's worth saying that the location of this murder (Woolwich) is a very poor, deprived area with high unemployment, high immigration, and an old white working class community who feel they have lost out in every direction to incomers. The fact that two of those unwlecome incomers have now committed this atrocity pours petrol onto flames. I don't say this is right - but that's the way it is.
This is not the kind of community which is likely to take a liberal, understanding attitude.
I lived there in the past - not far from this area at one time.Are you from the UK?
No - if you read my post I say 'I don't say this is right'.So you're suggesting the "incomers" and "high immigration" is what's to blame for what's happened to Woolwich?
I don't blame incomers, see above. But low or unskilled workers in deprived areas do blame incomers and have done for decades, so this was a place where extreme reactions were always likely. This is a high violent crime area in the first place. If the same crime happened in Tunbridge Wells there would be astonishment and even more coverage, but not much local hassle for Muslims.I find it very offensive that you'll very subtly blame "incomers" and the "high immigration" for what's happened to Woolwich as a town, and subsequently justify that white people should rightly feel a bitter resentment towards "incomers" because somehow they have "lost out in every direction to incomers",
Of course it does. Many terrorist acts are designed to do this, in order to alienate more people from the wider community and eventually provide more support/recruits. Police 'stop and search' was always a fantastic recruiting sergeant for the IRA.It doesn't just affect certain Muslims in a certain locality but it affects every individual Muslim in the UK regardless of age, gender or background (even if it's a revert).
Yes it is.And just out of curiosity, who in the world is going to have a "liberal, understanding attitude" towards a brutal murder? Is this dependant on time, place and thriving and prosperous community?
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Please STAY SAFE my sisters.
Brothers let your sisters and mothers know what's what outside right now. There's been over 163 reported attacks on Muslims in the past few days. Please be cautious. May Allah protect you all and deal with these ignorant #racist cowards in whatever manner He wishes ameen These cowards go and attack defenseless women Subhanallah. If you see a sister being attacked or think someone's following her or acting suspicious u better deal with it and be there for them inshaAllah. Could easily be one of our mothers. These racist scumbags have no self respect #TERRORISTS #EDL #WoolwichReaction
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I'd appreciate some feedback on a few thoughts.
Just as women's rights will not be acknowledged without also acknowledging the human rights of all, and that men's lives are just as affected by the oppression of women - so all of us must discern what part each of us has played in the radicalisation of the more vulnerable in our society - whether we are Muslim or Christian or atheist.
From the manner in which Islam is portrayed in the media and by government, to the reluctance to label far right groups as 'radicalised' and potential terrorists.
There was the case recently in Leicestershire of young teenagers collecting pipe bombs in order to attack their Muslim classmates - is this not also terrorism? Is this not also 'radicalisation'?
What do we focus on as a society?
Culturally we focus on where others go wrong and practically celebrate it. Perhaps we are all culpable for the poison within our society.
Is it possible to find a way of celebrating what is positive? And realise that it is only in working together we can truly safeguard the young and vulnerable?
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