English schools allowed to ban full-face veils

[England]

I think you may have posted the wrong article, since that one says nothing about Islamic schools banning the veil...

...Sort it aaat.

"They will tell parents they CAN uphold religious traditions provided they do not put security and learning in jeopardy. The rules will also apply to faith schools."

 

[guyabano]

^ yea cause their perverted.


But i agree, we should just have lots of islamic schools. Non-Muslim schools teach too many anti islamic thoughts anyway!

In what world do you live?

So it means, you accuse me to be perverted ?

And then, people like you wonder, why more and more people hate Islam ?

tsk tsk tsk

 

[E'jaazi]

Simple answer is no, it is not a widely held belief since the number of veiled Muslim women is in the vast minority.

Complicated answer is there are different schools of thought, but I'm not really qualified to go into them in much depth. Surely some searching for 'Niqab' in the 'Basics of Islam' section of this site may help in clearing up a few things to start with.

That's not true! Niqab is obligatory. That's from the Scholars, not me.

 

[Malaikah]

That is what I was thinking. Give all students some sort of identifying badge, mark, etc. That way everyone knows who is supposed to be there and who isn't. As a side-effect, the girls and women who choose to wear veils can be easily identified by this badge/stamp, and teachers and other students know who they are speaking to.

Even easier would be to get the student to show her face to other female students or teachers for confirmation. We don't need to get so advanced.

Most women wear the niqaab that shows their eyes anyway, in those cases there is no issue with identification.

 

[sameer]

i think banning the veil doesn't really help with security or suicide bombers, simply because the veil doesn't make the bomb go of. I mean that a person can walk into the school with their face showing and still pull out a gun and shoot someone or blow up the place as is evident in multiple cases in recent times.
Security shouldnt be used to justify this ruling....... they should just stick with communication and learning problems as reasons for the rulings.

 

[England]

i think banning the veil doesn't really help with security or suicide bombers, simply because the veil doesn't make the bomb go of. I mean that a person can walk into the school with their face showing and still pull out a gun and shoot someone or blow up the place as is evident in multiple cases in recent times.
Security shouldnt be used to justify this ruling....... they should just stick with communication and learning problems as reasons for the rulings.

But the fact that it could pose a security risk it would strengthen their case. It was the issue of security that actually led the school to victory against a girl fighting to wear her hijab at school...

 

[Muezzin]

But the fact that it could pose a security risk it would strengthen their case. It was the issue of security that actually led the school to victory against a girl fighting to wear her hijab at school...

You mean Niqab, surely. You couldn't fit a cheeseburger in a headscarve, let alone a nail bomb.

 

[Al Amreeki]

Reasons to Make Hijra: The War on Hijaab

A blog entry:

As Salaam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatahu,


The Department for Eduction and Skills in the United Kingdom has issued its guidelines on proper school uniform, which allows individual schools to ban the niqaab in class.


See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6466221.stm

This is nothing more than a masked attack on modesty, piety, righteousness and religiousness and a blatant example of the hatred of Islam that is prevalent in British Politics and British Society that exposes the hypocrisy of their so-called multiculturalism.

To read the rest click here!

 

[England]

You mean Niqab, surely. You couldn't fit a cheeseburger in a headscarve, let alone a nail bomb.

Yeah niqab... same thing

 

[Skywalker]

I think the most convincing point here for me was that niqab would hinder the teachers from knowing who's attending class, an exam, etc. as these are routine things you have to check. A face veil would be a major obstacle in doing this.

Security is also an issue, but I see it as secondary after indentification.

I also agree that Muslim families should try their best to send their kids to Muslim schools, because they would have greater freedom to practice their religion, as well as getting proper Islamic education. The Muslim communty on the other hand should work hard in making more of these schools and more importantly, making them better.

If a public school does have a problem with niqab, they could do a quick check when a student is attending by getting a female teacher or supervisor to see her face. Yeah it's annoying, but they could make it work if they wanted.