EU: Vote to leave or stay?

[BeTheChange]

brothers & sisters,

23rd of June is a big day for Britain in terms of politics.

Voters will get an option to either vote to remain in EU or to leave.

Will anyone be voting? If so what are your opinions or are you undecided?

How will the decision affect you?

I know many business owners want to remain otherwise they will be taxed quite heavily...

For me personally I have never voted and i don't intend to vote. Alhamdulilah.

 

[Aisha]

وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

I'm still confused, need to make up my mind by the 23rd! Hopefully I'll decide by then. Although the thought of the Tories having full power without being held accountable to Europe is nauseating.
And Brexit is quite possibly the worst word I've ever heard. +o( Then again, Cameron is endorsing Remain so that can't be good either.

See what I mean, I'm confused! Lol.

 

[EgyptPrincess]

I will vote. As a citizen of the UK I believe I should do what I feel is best for me, my family and the Muslims living in the UK.

I am voting to remain in the EU. Our economy cannot afford to take a hit right now and remaining in the EU is the right choice. The UK is not the super giant nation we like to think we are and whether we like it or not, we need the EU and being part of the EU opens our doors to immigration which I absolutely believe in. Immigration brings in skilled workers and accessible, quality education to EU member states, many of which are Muslims.

 

['Abd-al Latif]

No poll? I thought this thread would have had a poll! It would be interesting to see who will vote for a yes or a no.

 

[BeTheChange]

No poll? I thought this thread would have had a poll! It would be interesting to see who will vote for a yes or a no.

Asalamualykum,

I am sorry. That's a good idea. Insha Allah this thread will be edited so a poll will be visible to all.

Please bear with me. Jazahka Allah.

 

[EgyptPrincess]

I know a lot of people say that voting is haram so they won't vote but I think the context of what you're voting for should be taken into account.

If there was ever a vote to ban the burka, ban the niqab, ban halal meat, ban mosques etc. Would you, as a Muslim, still not vote for the right?

We there is a vote which could directly affect the country you live in and likewise you and your family, should we not vote to ensure we do what we think is best?

 

[BeTheChange]

Poll added (My first poll thread).

Jazahka Allah for your patience & suggestion.

 

[Zafran]

salaam

I'll be voting to remain. The Brexit arguments haven't convinced me that the UK wont be able to renegotiate and reform the EU in the future - Leaving the EU makes zero sense.

 

[ukmuslimah]

Leave!!!! More control over immigrants.

 

[noraina]

I'm too young to vote yet by just a few months

But my parents have voted leave and I agree, there are a lot of arguments going back and forth of how this will give a blow to our economy and international standing, etc, but in the long-run I think it'll be for the best for the UK to get some more independence.

Although the word 'Brexit' is awful, they could have thought of a better name for their campaign. It reminds of a breakfast cereal.

 

[Scimitar]

I don't believe they care what we vote. Ever heard of ballot box scandals? You'll only hear about them if they get exposed... otherwise you will be led to believe that your vote makes a difference. It doesn't.

Scimi

 

[sister herb]

I don't believe they care what we vote. Ever heard of ballot box scandals? You'll only hear about them if they get exposed... otherwise you will be led to believe that your vote makes a difference. It doesn't.

Scimi

You need then the International Election Observations to make sure that election is fair and democratic - like in some totalitarian countries.

;D

 

[Scimitar]

to be honest, I don't care for it at all.

Join Euro or not to Join Euro - Allahs will prevails whether I vote or not.

Scimi

 

[EgyptPrincess]

to be honest, I don't care for it at all.

Join Euro or not to Join Euro - Allahs will prevails whether I vote or not.

Scimi

This simply isn't true though. Allah does not help those who do not help themselves.

If there is a vote to ban the burka and nobody votes against it, of course it will get banned... Again the same attitude I keep seeing around these boards is "nothing matters, Allah's will will make it happen or not happen anyway" In that case, why revise for your exam? Why bother to save money for a car? Why bother to do anything if no matter what happens Allah's will will prevail.

Have you and people like you ever wondered that perhaps Allah's will is for us to grow a backbone and actually try to change the world we live in for the better of mankind? Sure the EU deal isn't that important for the average Muslim but I strongly advise Muslims not to have the "leave it to Allah's will" mentality. It's extremely unhealthy

 

[Scimitar]

This simply isn't true though. Allah does not help those who do not help themselves.

If there is a vote to ban the burka and nobody votes against it, of course it will get banned... Again the same attitude I keep seeing around these boards is "nothing matters, Allah's will will make it happen or not happen anyway" In that case, why revise for your exam? Why bother to save money for a car? Why bother to do anything if no matter what happens Allah's will will prevail.

Have you and people like you ever wondered that perhaps Allah's will is for us to grow a backbone and actually try to change the world we live in for the better of mankind? Sure the EU deal isn't that important for the average Muslim but I strongly advise Muslims not to have the "leave it to Allah's will" mentality. It's extremely unhealthy

You can vote if you like, that's fine by me - but I do not look to beg the kuffar for my rights, thank you.

Sooner of later, it will become impossible for Muslims to live in the west - and you will all still be voting for your "rights" while I observe shariah recommendations to migrate to more suitable climes, spiritually speaking of course.


Scimi

 

[EgyptPrincess]

You can vote if you like, that's fine by me - but I do not look to beg the kuffar for my rights, thank you.

Sooner of later, it will become impossible for Muslims to live in the west - and you will all still be voting for your "rights" while I observe shariah recommendations to migrate to more suitable climes, spiritually speaking of course.

Scimi

It's not begging at all. You are a human being, you have the right to try and do what is best for you and your family based on the situation you're in. Yes the best situation for many would be the live under the Sharia in an Islamic nation but we don't have this legitimate option so we should make the best of the situation we're in.

 

[sister herb]

Sooner of later, it will become impossible for Muslims to live in the west - and you will all still be voting for your "rights" while I observe shariah recommendations to migrate to more suitable climes, spiritually speaking of course.


Scimi

During the history of Europe here have been several times when living in Europe has been extreme danger or almost impossible for the Jews for example. Massacres, deportions, forced to convert to Christianity, racism etc. but after centuries of persecutions in the Europe still live Jews. Why we Muslims should be weaker and more fearful than them and run away like sheeps when new laws (which we didn´t even bother to vote against) prohibit our religious lifestyle?

 

[anatolian]

If I were there I would vote to stay for worldly benefits but I dont know really how it would effect me or other muslims living in britain from an Islamic point of view.

However, Britain always tries to stay a step away from EU. By not joining the Euro and Schengen zones for example..

 

[EgyptPrincess]

During the history of Europe here have been several times when living in Europe has been extreme danger or almost impossible for the Jews for example. Massacres, deportions, forced to convert to Christianity, racism etc. but after centuries of persecutions in the Europe still live Jews. Why we Muslims should be weaker and more fearful than them and run away like sheeps when new laws (which we didn´t even bother to vote against) prohibit our religious lifestyle?

Unfortunately the world is full of people who complain about their situation but can't be bothered to do anything about it. Change was never brought about by people sitting on their backsides doing nothing. It's very easy for humans to sit and feel sorry for ourselves and so if there is something we don't agree with we owe it to ourselves to try and fix it, no matter what it might be.

Democracy will never allow for the ban of religion... BUT if it ever did, it would be because we laid down and did nothing to prevent it.

 

[Regrets1]

I was thinking of voting to leave because of less jobs, there are many degree holders with no jobs..but then I thought we are still surviving, we got shelter etc. If we leave EU UK won't allow immigrants and I don't think thats fair on people who's countries are being bombed they all deserve to live a better life in a safe place so for that reason I'm thinking of voting to remain in EU.