Every world religion is hypocritical and false.

-i'm not prejudiced against Islam
-i'm not racist
-i'm not atheist(agnostic !)

I went to a high school where Muslim kids acted like they were oh-so much better than everyone, definitely the most stuck up group of people there. I'm not talking about 10 people, i'm talking about hundreds. The muslims i've met have all been extreme hypocrites, quick to judge and criticize any non-muslim. Quite a few are very racist and prejudiced too. With that said, I felt like coming on a popular Islamic forum to question their beliefs and share my opinions on religion.
 
SlipknotGag79 said:
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Hahahahaha

So let me guess.. Allah creates humans in the first place and sends to hell those who have never heard of the existence of Allah ?
Is this admitting he wishes to punish those who do not submit to him ? Even if they are unaware of his existence ?
Why did he create them in the first place then ? To gain pleasure from their misery ?
Does that make Allah a favoritist ? a sadistic Creator ? a madosachist ?
Why would he feel the need to test his creations in the first place ? He is omnipotent so he must know the outcome already. If he created the universe why did he not create a utopia ? Surely he wants all those who oppose him to suffer on Earth and burn in hell.
The afterlife is limited to those born to parents of Muslim faith ?

I could think of a lot more when I have time
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If Allah was to take all of the creation and lock them up in hell for all of eternity that would not be considered as injustice. We are His creation and He will do with us as He pleases.

The reason for people being thrown in hell fire is to show an example to those who disbelieve as well as believe in Him and to show to one and all of the consequences of who those who have encoured His wrath. The word of Allah will come true to those who chose not to believe in Him, while it will humble those who believe in Him, thus His wisdom is far beyong your limited views.

For an individual to refuse to submit to Allah is the same as a King who hires a slave, gives him food, clothes, shelter and money for his wellbeing but this servent goes out and gives credit and thanks to someone else. Allah is much Higher then the position of any king and He gives you much more then that so the ones who reject Him are the ungreatful and arragont ones who follow nothing but conjecture.

So you ask why would Allah test his creation? If you told me you were an engineer would you expect your employer to take your word for it? or would you show him your qualifications to prove that you are an engineer?

Similarly Allah tests us to see if we have sound heart and firm belief in Him and he does this by testing our faith. Claiming to believe in Allah is not enough, you have to prove it in the face of opposition and trial.

So don't talk about Allah without knowledge, because hellfire is made ready for the arragont ones who have neither knowledge nor understanding.
 
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SlipknotGag79 said:
It's relevant in the sense that you believe that religion has always existed, but you believe the Earth is older than 6,000 years old ? The first human was then created by Allah millions of years ago ? Or did the first humans not have language, not know anything about "Allah" or "Islam" and are frying in hell right now as a consequence ?



Other than quote passages from a book you have no way to debate with me. It's exactly the same thing as Christianity. I could write a book myself and have it answer every question about death,etc wouldn't matter if i'm telling the truth as long as I make some money !
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SO WHY DONT YOU WRITE A BOOK THEN!!!!
in the Qur'an Allah swt challenges mankind and the jinns to do so!
SO WHY DONT YOU!!!!
 
So don't talk about Allah without knowledge, because hellfire is made ready for the arragont ones who have neither knowledge nor understanding.
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So pretty much you defend Allah because you are afraid of his eternal wrath. Sounds like a great way to live to me.

For an individual to refuse to submit to Allah is the same as a King who hires a slave, gives him food, clothes, shelter and money for his wellbeing but this servent goes out and gives credit and thanks to someone else.
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That's a decent argument but it's not like I chose to be born. Since he is a God why can't he just put his name in the sky if he wants credit so badly ?
 
SlipknotGag79 said:
-i'm not prejudiced against Islam
-i'm not racist
-i'm not atheist(agnostic !)

I went to a high school where Muslim kids acted like they were oh-so much better than everyone, definitely the most stuck up group of people there. I'm not talking about 10 people, i'm talking about hundreds. The muslims i've met have all been extreme hypocrites, quick to judge and criticize any non-muslim. Quite a few are very racist and prejudiced too. With that said, I felt like coming on a popular Islamic forum to question their beliefs and share my opinions on religion.
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Dear brother in every race evey culture every religion you get that!!!
so for you to just pin point it to muslims being like that is wrong!
every race and religion has the good people and bad people.
 
Furthermore... can you please start cracking on with this book of yours cos i'd be the 1st person to purchase and read it there you go you have a reader before the book has even been written.
 
Eeman said:
every race and religion has the good people and bad people.
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I know. Im not a big fan of Christianity either.

Sure, i'll start the book off with a segment where the Creator appears to me in a vision and asks me to carry out his ambitions to the modern people ! Add in some parables, metaphors, similes, short stories, personal accounts, morals, ethics and i'll have quite a few followers
 
SlipknotGag79 said:
-i'm not prejudiced against Islam
-i'm not racist
-i'm not atheist(agnostic !)

I went to a high school where Muslim kids acted like they were oh-so much better than everyone, definitely the most stuck up group of people there. I'm not talking about 10 people, i'm talking about hundreds. The muslims i've met have all been extreme hypocrites, quick to judge and criticize any non-muslim. Quite a few are very racist and prejudiced too. With that said, I felt like coming on a popular Islamic forum to question their beliefs and share my opinions on religion.
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thanks for answering.
you are basing your opinion about a religion and its follwers based on your experience with crappy muslims in school. this is known as prejudice.
i think you would gain from learning more about islam so you have come to a good place. learning is a good way to get rid of prejudice. some of the things you may learn may really surprise you.
and yet the tone of your questions does not suggest someone who wants to learn, but rather one who already has his mind made up and is more interested in mocking.
maybe you should question your own motives, and if you are sincerely seeking information, ask iin the discover islam section, or any of the islam sections and as long as you are respectful and not combatitive, you can find out what you want to know.
p.s. ain't nothin' bad about being an agnostic. i'm one and i'm not bad. ;D
 
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So pretty much you defend Allah because you are afraid of his eternal wrath. Sounds like a great way to live to me.
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I fear the Creator, not His creation nor the likes of you.

That's a decent argument but it's not like I chose to be born. Since he is a God why can't he just put his name in the sky if he wants credit so badly ?
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You didn't chose to be born nor will you chose when to die. So Who is then the Controller of your affairs? It is Allah. Submitting to Him will bring Allah no benefit whatsoever so that only means it Will bring you benefit because this short period you live in this world is only a testing ground.

The signs of Allah are all around in His creation as Allah says "Indeeded there are signs for men of understanding, those who contemplate standing, sitting, laying on their sides and they say "O our Lord, not in vain did You create any of this. Save us from the tourment of the Hell fire."
 
u can't said, every religion is hypocrites and falsehood....cause mostly religions that believe in their own religions and faith teaches how to be a good person.Because this is some sensitive issues.u r disrespected people religion,really a controversy.only their beliefs and concepts are different from ISLAM....most people prayer to every religion most go to one GoD...~ maybe some unrecognized religion is falsehood...like Religion Ayah pin,al-hakam,and etc...!only the religion of speaking the TRUTH is ISLAM.
 
some of the things you may learn may really surprise you.
and yet the tone of your questions does not suggest someone who wants to learn, but rather one who already has his mind made up and is more interested in mocking.
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You're right I apologize for that. Let's just say i'm a pessimistic person who forgets his manners sometimes lol. There is still a lot I could learn about Islam.

You didn't chose to be born nor will you chose when to die. So Who is then the Controller of your affairs? It is Allah. Submitting to Him will bring Allah no benefit whatsoever so that only means it Will bring you benefit because this short period you live in this world is only a testing ground.

The signs of Allah are all around in His creation as Allah says "Indeeded there are signs for men of understanding, those who contemplate standing, sitting, laying on their sides and they say "O our Lord, not in vain did You create any of this. Save us from the tourment of the Hell fire."
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Alright so pretty much you're having faith that the world was not created in vain. Like I said above i'm a pessimistic person(and skeptical) so I pretty much have the view that my life is completely pointless and insignificant. I'd like to be "saved" and all but i'm pretty much a sinner in many ways. Which means we both agree to disagree
 
By the way to be honest I don't even like Slipknot at all, I just chose the name to get some cheap kicks out of being a troll. (Then I ended up feeling like debating a bit)
 
you can learn a lot on the internet - just as you can learn a lot here.
why waste time trolling?
you can also turn off the computer and go for a nice walk in the sun or moon, wherever you are. :)
 
SlipknotGag79 said:
You're right I apologize for that. Let's just say i'm a pessimistic person who forgets his manners sometimes lol. There is still a lot I could learn about Islam.

Alright so pretty much you're having faith that the world was not created in vain. Like I said above i'm a pessimistic person(and skeptical) so I pretty much have the view that my life is completely pointless and insignificant. I'd like to be "saved" and all but i'm pretty much a sinner in many ways. Which means we both agree to disagree
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Allah knows that everyone including Muslims are going to sin, be it small or great. This doesn't mean you are hopeless because when on sins but then turns back to his Lord in repentance then he may be a better person then he was before.

Allah created everything so He knows that man is weak as Allah says in the Qur'an "Indeed man has been created weak" and the Only One far beyond any Imperfection and weakness is Allah. The question is not about sinning rather it is to turn to Him in repentance because none excepts repentance and forgives sins except Him.
 
snakelegs said:
you can learn a lot on the internet - just as you can learn a lot here.
why waste time trolling?
you can also turn off the computer and go for a nice walk in the sun or moon, wherever you are. :)
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It's raining outside lol but I get your point
It says a lot about myself when I need to argue with others to find satisfaction. A walk in the moonlight sounds nice though =)
 
SlipknotGag79 said:
-i'm not prejudiced against Islam
-i'm not racist
-i'm not atheist(agnostic !)

I went to a high school where Muslim kids acted like they were oh-so much better than everyone, definitely the most stuck up group of people there. I'm not talking about 10 people, i'm talking about hundreds. The muslims i've met have all been extreme hypocrites, quick to judge and criticize any non-muslim. Quite a few are very racist and prejudiced too. With that said, I felt like coming on a popular Islamic forum to question their beliefs and share my opinions on religion.
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Its interesting, but tha characteristics you describe of 'stuck up group' of Muslims seem to actually define your own character. Your far too quick to judge a WHOLE race based on tha actions and characters of the minority. I would suggest you not base your thinking on the acts of the hunderds of Muslims [in your high school], but rather tha millions of Muslims worldwide. I don't actually quite understand what your trying to get at in this thread because it seems kind of pointless.. I hope you can navigate your way around the forum & find out what Islam is really about. I mean afterall your only used to the hipocrites & those who are quick to judge, so may be this will open your eyes a bit. =) Peace

P.S Top Stuff Bro SnakeLegs =)
 
SlipknotGag79 said:
I haven't seen you say anything to contradict my arguments. Don't have any insightful philosophy to prove me wrong ?
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Oh quite the contrary, I have enough philosophical and logical arguments to defeat any argument you brought up, however for now I haven't brought them up because I suspected it wouldn't do any good. And my suspicions were later confirmed when you admitted your intentions to snakelegs. However since that now has changed, I'm ready for philosophy if you still have questions.
 

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