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Re: The Eye - Evolution

Basicly, the eye is one of the most complex organs, which suggest a creator. it is to elegant to be the result of random mutation and survival of the fitest.
 
Re: The Eye - Evolution

root if they are not allowed then y do they assume things......y do they make me write up an experiment wif a hypothosis.....lol they sure doo make many assumptions as they taught me to do the same thing

Your not making sense.
 
Evolution theory can't stand up to basic facts

Recently, several letters have tried to indicate that the theory of evolution is fact. That is not so and, in fact, it is becoming more discredited. Darwin's book was written in 1859 and since that time there have been no discoveries made to substantiate the theory. However, there have been scientific conclusions leading to debunking the theory. Over 100 scientists have indicated their doubts about evolution (see www.discovery.org) declaring that they "are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life." Darwin himself lamented, "When we descend to details, we can prove that no one species has changed." Then why do so many of his followers contend otherwise?

In "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis" it was noted, "... nor is there the slightest empirical hint of an evolutionary sequence among all the diverse cells on earth". Kenneth Hsu wrote in the "Journal of Sedimentary Petrology," "Darwinism contains 'wicked lies'; it is not a 'natural law' formulated on the basis of factual evidence but a dogma, reflecting the dominating social philosophy of the last century." Swedish biologist Soren Lovtrup said, "I believe that one day the Darwinian myth will be ranked the greatest deceit in the history of science." Sir John William Dawson, who served as president of McGill University, said, "This evolutionist doctrine is itself one of the strangest phenomena of humanity ... a system destitute of any shadow of proof, and supported merely by vague analogies and figures of speech ... now no one pretends that they rest on facts actually observed, for no one has ever observed the production of even one species ..." Paul Lemoine, past president of the Geological Society of France and director of the Natural History Museum in Paris, wrote, "The Theory of evolution is impossible. A base, in spite of appearances, no one any longer believes in it ..." Dr. T.N. Tahmisian of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission said, "Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con-men and the story they are telling may be one of the greatest hoax ever. In explaining evolution, we do not have one iota of fact."

The facts we do have indicate that there must be intelligent design behind this earth and everything that is on it and the theory of evolution should be ignored and discarded.

KEITH SNELSON

Goshen
 
Re: Evolution theory can't stand up to basic facts

Greetings and peace sonze, whilst I tend to agree with you that evolution seems to explain very little, there are some extremely clever people who look on the theory of evolution as proof that there is no God. If you ever want to really challenge evolutionary theory try this atheist forum, they love a challenge

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If you ever think of trying this site just make sure your life insurance is up to date and you have a bullet proof vest.

Eric
 
Re: Evolution theory can't stand up to basic facts

Asalaamu Alaikum

yea right bullet proof vest thats gotta be a joke !!
what are they gonna do virtually shoot me
 
Eric, don't be intimidated to quickly. It's not because somebody seems to be smart that everything that person believes in is right. Note that there are a lot of smart peopel and scientists who DO believe in God. I've debated evolution with scientists in the past and eventually we always came to a point where it's personal opinion versus personal opinion rather then facts over facts. But a lot of people rather then admitting that will start mocking creationists for their believe rather then questioning their own believe. If you're having problems defending creationism, I suggest you read some of the posts that have been exchanged between me and root on this thread, If you follow up from the beginning you 'll see that if you stick your ground eventually they have to give you the benefit of the doubt.
 
Greetings Steve and thanks for your reply, thanks for your encouragement and I do not feel intimidated by their arguments. As you say when you pursue the arguments to a bottom line there is no proof and they use words like, believe, imagine and suppose and you end up chasing your tail all the time.

The arguments almost seem pointless as there is no real proof either way,

Take care

Eric
 
salaamz

Hasn't the evolution theory been proved wrong?

Besides if we evolved from apes why are there still apes...

Fi AmaanAllah

w/salaamz
 
salaamz

Hasn't the evolution theory been proved wrong?

Besides if we evolved from apes why are there still apes...

Fi AmaanAllah

w/salaamz




If you have any doubts about evolution then this indicates that you are having doubts about science in general. You say why are there still apes on this planet? Let me ask you where in science has it ever concluded that apes would be instinct? Without production apes will never increase in population. Moreoever, apes will never exist. The science theory is trying to prove that way back from the ice age since we as humans have adapted to a better way of thinking hence the tools to hunt. The tools to kill. Now, we can stand on four legs, and we can run with two feet.
 
salaamz Halima...

Jazakhala'khairun for your reply sis :)

Nope i have no real doubts about science i just generally was asking if evolution theory was proved wrong...

One of my fellow Ukhtis once told me that missing fossils proved evolution wrong...so i was wondering if that was false...

Fi Amaan Allah
w/salaamz all
 
Greetings,

No, evolution by natural selection has not been proven wrong. Some people choose not to believe it for whatever reason, and of course they are free to do so. See here for more information about evolution, including accounts of evidence that supports it:

Evolution - Wikipedia entry

Peace
 
salaamz Halima...

Jazakhala'khairun for your reply sis :)

Nope i have no real doubts about science i just generally was asking if evolution theory was proved wrong...

One of my fellow Ukhtis once told me that missing fossils proved evolution wrong...so i was wondering if that was false...

Fi Amaan Allah
w/salaamz all


It's ok if you have your doubts. Everyone has their doubts. That is why it's good to ask questions.
 
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No, evolution by natural selection has not been proven wrong. Some people choose not to believe it for whatever reason, and of course they are free to do so. See here for more information about evolution, including accounts of evidence that supports it:

Evidence? I think not. I already debated and questioned most of the assumed "evidence" of evolution. The correct answer would be that nobody knows. Neither creationism nor evolution can be sufieciently proven and on the end of the day it's just a question of "which one seems more reasonable?"

Well if your an atheist, I can understand evolution seems more reasonable, but as a muslim creation seems more reasonable to me. It's not a matter of proof and disproof. It's just a difren point of view on things, a difrent paradigm.
 
Salaamz all...

Did we evolve or were we created?
Methinks tis a hard question to answer seeing as we did not witness a creator making us and we did not witness us evolving from apes as we were not there that many years ago...

My proof of existance, however, comes from the Holy Quran, Therefore i believe i believe that i have been created, by whom? by Allah :)

w/salaamz
 
Salaamz all...

Did we evolve or were we created?
Methinks tis a hard question to answer seeing as we did not witness a creator making us and we did not witness us evolving from apes as we were not there that many years ago...

My proof of existance, however, comes from the Holy Quran, Therefore i believe i believe that i have been created, by whom? by Allah :)

w/salaamz


Of course we did not witness a creator making us, however, this is one of the essential creeds that we as muslims must believe in. We must have faith in God. This comes from an Islamic perpective. I would say that evoultion comes in from sicence becuase it was the scientist that have proved that human beings come from Apes. then again, if you put the whole chain to gether it doesn't make sense. God has created Adam and Eve. They weren't apes now were they? So that's why I am doubting this evolution theory. Thing thing is that Adam and Eve were already humans. God did not create Adam and Eve as apes first then proceeded to become apes. So where in this theory does human from apes become true? That is what I don't undstand. The two theories do not go together. However, I do not doubt that God has created us for 1 mintute, because i myslef as a muslim have to believe that wether i like it or not.
 
salaamz,
Thats true about Adam and Eve....so what do scientists say about Adam and Eve...are they all athiest? Because i'm sure some of them are muslims or cristians etc therefore they must believe in Adam and Eve...wouldn't they?

w/salaamz :)
 
Salaam

Whats the "Evolve" Crap we were crated simple as want the proff read the quran these scientist come up with some wild Theories
 
salaamz,
Thats true about Adam and Eve....so what do scientists say about Adam and Eve...are they all athiest? Because i'm sure some of them are muslims or cristians etc therefore they must believe in Adam and Eve...wouldn't they?

w/salaamz :)


Adam was defiently not atheist. According to Islam, Adam was a prophet. He was a matter of fact the first prophet. Adam and Eve were the first human beings on this earth. Now, this is where science AND Islam both agree.



It is said that Adam (peace be upon him) was a prophet, that he was the first prophet. Allah says: “Then Adam learned from his Lord certain words and his Lord turned towards him” [Sûrah al-Baqarah: 37]
 
salaamz,

Jazakhala'khairun for your quote! Mod Halima

Please chill bro islam-truth...we are just discussing :)

w/salaamz
 

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