Fall of the American Empire - Inevitable?

NobleMuslimUK said:
America and europe will fall like dominoes. The worst case scenarios are muslims like myself living in the west, we will be targetted by the kuffar, when the lands become lawless and there is a power vacumn, we need to educate ourselves and our children and then migrate to lands preferably muslim lands and apply our skills and education. Or we could stay and take it on the chin, and the only justifiable reason for a muslim to live in kuffar lands is by giving dawah and hope to Allah europe becomes muslim sooner than later.

Like someone mentioned the filthy zionist elite will move to israel, and not that pathetic little excuse of a country they call israel. By israel i mean most of the middle east under jew control.
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Well those of us converts who have only ever lived in kuffar lands may not have a choice as to where we go. I was born in the USA and I have never been outside the USA save for one time only. I don't think I would make it in an Islamic country. I don't speak the language and I am not familiar with the customs.
 
NobleMuslimUK said:
America and europe will fall like dominoes. The worst case scenarios are muslims like myself living in the west, we will be targetted by the kuffar, when the lands become lawless and there is a power vacumn, we need to educate ourselves and our children and then migrate to lands preferably muslim lands and apply our skills and education. Or we could stay and take it on the chin, and the only justifiable reason for a muslim to live in kuffar lands is by giving dawah and hope to Allah europe becomes muslim sooner than later.

Like someone mentioned the filthy zionist elite will move to israel, and not that pathetic little excuse of a country they call israel. By israel i mean most of the middle east under jew control.
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Salaam,

America's collapse will affect all Muslim countries.
 
I expect the american empire to stand strong while it awaits its dark messiah.


I really dont see it coming down anytime soon, it has enough power to steal/plunder from any nation. I dont think any natural disaster will bring it to its knees by the will of ALlaah.

Maybe if israel demands control over it, but that isnt really a demise is it? Its more like an evolution for them.
 
Do you think israel will be like this? no, for the dark/false messiah it needs to grow for the false zionist/judeo ideology. America is finished now, their HQ will be israel. Insha'Allah ofcourse.
 
Jedi_Mindset said:
Do you think israel will be like this? no, for the dark/false messiah it needs to grow for the false zionist/judeo ideology. America is finished now, their HQ will be israel. Insha'Allah ofcourse.
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Salaam,

Israel will simply collapse because it is dependent on US support. It does require a lot of military support.
 
we'll never know bro, israel itself is a country who don't let itself destroy, but Allah knows best about this, if the false messiah comes he needs to controll the holy land.
 
King of Nines said:
Well those of us converts who have only ever lived in kuffar lands may not have a choice as to where we go. I was born in the USA and I have never been outside the USA save for one time only. I don't think I would make it in an Islamic country. I don't speak the language and I am not familiar with the customs.
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There is always the Muslim Village. Heikh Imran Hoseins lectures on Muslim Village are very good, check it out:


And for an idea of what life is like in a Muslim Village:


For more onformation, visit: http://www.medinahproject.com/gallery.html

There are always options. Alhamdulillah.
 
Insha'Allah bro.

Muslim Village is very good, not affected by the fitnah. Living by the sunnah completely. Insha'Allah we will get there all :)
 
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Correct me if my assumption is wrong. The strength of the American empire lies in the US dollar, right? So, when the dollar becomes worthless like used toilet paper, then it's the end of the American empire, right? Here's something to look at closely:
http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/rape2.shtml

Those who have a US dollar can have a close look at it to verify whether it is true that the US dollar does not have any intrinsic value.
 
7 cents to make a note. Any note. 1 dollar, 100 dollars... same cost.

When the dollar collapses, it's not gonna be as total as some think. It just means that you can only use the notes for micro-purchases. But if you want to buy a car for example - you'll need e-money... see where I'm going with this?

Tragic Typos said:
Salaam,

Israel will simply collapse because it is dependent on US support. It does require a lot of military support.
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Wrong. Israel doesn't rely on no one. USA and America created the zionist state of Israel and did so for a grand purpose. As for the military support - try this on for size... (since it's all related to monetary shifts, and echange of power - read what follows).

The economy will collapse for a time, and then recover... but not before the damage will be done and USA relies on Israels gold and silver reserves to bail them out - effectively giving Israel the upper hand so Israel owns most of USA's military hardware... Hmmm... you're starting to get it now, right? Now, if Israel owns that hardware - they effectively become the worlds leading superpower... this is war games.
 
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alluminati said:
... it won't be long now before the new world order is implemented
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Brother, they want to make you think that they still have to bring about the New World Order...

...Take a look at this chapter list from "The Protocols of the Learnt Elders of Zion" and tell me how many of these you think are already in place ok?

Protocol I - The Basic Doctrine
Protocol II - Economic Wars
Protocol III - Methods of Conquest
Protocol IV - Materialism Replaces Religion
Protocol V - Despotism and Modern Progress
Protocol VI - Take-Over Technique
Protocol VII - World-Wide Wars
Protocol VIII - Provisional Government
Protocol IX - Re-education
Protocol X - Preparing for Power
Protocol XI - The Totalitarian State
Protocol XII - Control of the Press
Protocol XIII - Distractions
Protocol XIV - Assault on Religion
Protocol XV - Ruthless Suppression
Protocol XVI - Brainwashing
Protocol XVII - Abuse of Authority
Protocol XVIII - Arrest of Opponents
Protocol XIX - Rulers and People
Protocol XX - Financial Programme
Protocol XXI - Loans and Credit
Protocol XXII - Power of Gold
Protocol XXIII - Instilling Obedience
Protocol XXIV - Qualities of the Ruler

All except a tiny part of one... a incy teeny part of chapter 24 needs to be fulfilled, and that is finding their ruler, their king... masih ud dajjal/anti-christ.

The New World Order is not only already here, we're living in it - and have been for quite some time. For those who can perceive the fitna of the times we are living in - you'll be able to clearly see this.
 
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  • Ali was reported to have said:
His right eye will be punctured,
and his
left eye would be raised to his forehead

and will be sparkling like a star.

Only the believers will be able to read the word

‘Kufr’ [disbelief],
inscribed in bold letters,
on his forehead.


THE GREAT SEAL OF THE UNITED STATES
PRINTED ON THE BACK OF A DOLLAR​
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The forms saecla, saeclorum etc. were normal alternatives to the more common saecula etc.
Seclorum meaning generation, century, or age.
Secular and secularity derive from the Latin word saecularis meaning of a generation, belonging to an age.

SECULARISM:
the principle that the state has no religion and there is no state religion;
persons elected to its legislative, nominated to official functions or in the administration(s) and person nominated in the judiciary
cannot hold religious beliefs in their function but have to keep their religious beliefs exclusively for their private life
persons holding a religious office cannot be elected or nominated to public office.


Kafir:
Someone who rejects God - or "covers"


....Only the believers will be able to read the word:
‘Kufr’ [Rejection of God],
inscribed in bold letters,
on his forehead.......

what happens to Dajjal?........................
 
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ThisOldMan said:
Correct me if my assumption is wrong. The strength of the American empire lies in the US dollar, right? So, when the dollar becomes worthless like used toilet paper, then it's the end of the American empire, right? Here's something to look at closely:
http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/rape2.shtml

Those who have a US dollar can have a close look at it to verify whether it is true that the US dollar does not have any intrinsic value.
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The american economy is functioning like a pyramid scheme, if you are familiar with the term.
Just like any pyrmaid scheme, sooner or later it will collapse, and almost all, if not all pyramid scehemes collapsed with such complete and utter disaster.
At the moment the currency is still not collapsing because the US is quite smart in making other countries holding onto the dollars in the form of t-bills etc, and those countries have interest in propping up the us economy lest their dollars become worthless.

But this is certainly not sustainable. And any smart person would not hold onto USD. Gold or other real estate is much preferable.
 
Ramadhan said:
At the moment the currency is still not collapsing because the US is quite smart in making other countries holding onto the dollars in the form of t-bills etc, and those countries have interest in propping up the us economy lest their dollars become worthless.
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What you mean is kind of like the US is holding those countries the way ancient emperors insisted that the eldest son of the major clans in the country were sent to live in the imperial palace. Seemed like an honor but actually a subtle form of blackmail.

However if we are prepared to face a generation or two of living back in the dark ages, we can bring down the American empire. It can be something as simple as the Chinese and the Japanese deciding to trade using each other's currencies instead of the USD. It would work like a domino effect. Once somebody starts ditching, everybody else's would start following suit. No one wants to be holding a lot of USD then which would be worth less than used toilet paper.

Or the non-US oil-rich nations decide to trade in dinar instead of USD. Maybe Peru or Venezuela may lead the way. Can't see any Arab countries doing that except for maybe Iran. The Iranians, if I remember correctly, are not Arabs anyway. They are of Persian descent.
 
Scimitar said:
No, Dajjal will be taking his exalted position as the messiah of the Zionists in Israel... NOT USA. It's all in hadeeth.
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I think dajjal will be the messiah of the group known as freemason/illuminati

which is far more then just israel
 
It's not what you think you know, but what has been recorded in hadeeth for you to know - that makes all the difference. As fro freemasons. They are all over the world, are you now gonna tell me that masih ud dajjal will come from Australia? Scotland? Timbuktoo?

Look bro, we have been given clear indication that he will be sighted in Israel, and he will attempt to rule from the throne of Dauwud (AS).

Anyway. Forget freemasons and consider the zionists who are the real reception of dajjal. Knowiing the difference makes all the difference.
 
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