Finally, 9/11 suspect 'admits guilt'

[don532]

May be KSM is responsible or one of the members..
but 9/11 ain't the work of a single man..not even a single group...
hw could Teleban alone..half way around the world from US have planned all this and done it so successfully without the envolvment of any US citizens?

It takes only common sense to understand that noone can cause any harm inside ur home unless a person from ur home is ready to harm u/co-operate.

There r many Americans involved too but none is going to be hanged..but only MUSLIMS!

The known information on the movements of the hijackers is pretty clear where they came from and what they did. It's even been televised in the US. In America, we have freedom. A person can come into this country, blend in, and with some financial backing carry out an act of terrorism. And the financial backing from the man in the cave is large. You don't need an American citizen to help with anything.
This is not about persecuting Muslims. It's about fighting terror. If any American helped them, they should be found out and prosecuted also. What is the American was also a Muslim? Would you think that justice, or just more persecution?

 

[wilberhum]

May be KSM is responsible or one of the members..
but 9/11 ain't the work of a single man..not even a single group...
hw could Teleban alone..half way around the world from US have planned all this and done it so successfully without the envolvment of any US citizens?

It takes only common sense to understand that noone can cause any harm inside ur home unless a person from ur home is ready to harm u/co-operate.

There r many Americans involved too but none is going to be hanged..but only MUSLIMS!

I think it has been well summed up.

Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
make 70 excuses for your muslim brother/sister until 100% completely proven guilty.

And I might add always blame the Kafir. If there is no evidence, make some up.

 

[chacha_jalebi]

You are the one buying that junk. Really sad.

You are a product of "Self Imposed Ignorance". :-[

Now can we get back to a debate that has some indications of intelligence? :?

i beg your pardon

your ignorant, for believing because you know its true, how can a man in a cave plan all that whoever believes that is just dumb

and a debate of intelligence? hah, look whos talking, brap brap now run along and watch the news

 

[AmarFaisal]

This is not about persecuting Muslims. It's about fighting terror.

It's easy for u to say that..
but when muslims r being killed all around us and we can clearly reckon that majority of the dead muslims are innocent people(I am counting the civilians killed in the war against Iraq and Afghanistan) , u can't convince any Muslim this ain't abt religion!

 

[wilberhum]

This is not about persecuting Muslims. It's about fighting terror.

It's easy for u to say that..
but when muslims r being killed all around us and we can clearly reckon that majority of the dead muslims are innocent people(I am counting the civilians killed in the war against Iraq and Afghanistan) , u can't convince any Muslim this ain't abt religion!

It is a war against Islam to the same extent that Islam is at war with the US.

 

[don532]

This is not about persecuting Muslims. It's about fighting terror.

It's easy for u to say that..
but when muslims r being killed all around us and we can clearly reckon that majority of the dead muslims are innocent people(I am counting the civilians killed in the war against Iraq and Afghanistan) , u can't convince any Muslim this ain't abt religion!

Greetings. Please consider this. Sure it's about religion in those places....to the terrorists, not the US. The US didn't go into either of those places because they are Muslim countries. I'm sure there must be some innocents killed by the US. It's a war. That happens. However, the US did not start the Muslim on Muslim violence we have seen in Iraq and Afghanistan.

When the US and the coalition kicked Saddam out of Kuwait, that was a war against Islam, too?
When Al Qaeda in Iraq sends a car bomb into a crowded market in Baghdad, it's really a US conspirator?
When a Sunni squad kills some Shiites and plant an IED in a dead body, that was really the work of the US?
When the US military is working to rebuild buildings, restore water, build power plants, etc., it's all really not happening?
The children from Iraq and Afghanistan that are brought to the US for medical treatment they cannot get in their countries(like Qudrat Ullah)...that's really a lie?
My neighbor that was a soldier in Iraq and came back with the ID documents of Iranian men involved in the fighting....he was really a liar?
The bombing of the embassy in Beirut in 1983 was an inside job, as was the first word trade center bombing and the coordinated embassy bombings in Africa?
We are not out to kill Muslims because they are Muslims. If that were true, the Muslims in the US would be in danger. The US went into Iraq to overthrow a tyrant. The US went into Afghanistan to pursue Al Qaeda. We are not strapping explosive belts onto ourselves and blowing up Muslims because they are of a certain sect we disagree with.

 

[KAding]

Did anyone read the actual transcript? He sounds very plausible and sincere. He explains why they attacked the US, why they are at war with the US. I think there are few Muslims on this board who would disagree with his reasoning. In fact, I think he sounds rather likable in the transcript. He accepts he is an enemy combatant, but says he does not believe many others in Guantanamo are. He pleads the court president to be release on them and treat them well.

I'll post the link again: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/15_03_07_mohammed_transcript.pdf

 

[don532]

Did anyone read the actual transcript? He sounds very plausible and sincere. He explains why they attacked the US, why they are at war with the US. I think there are few Muslims on this board who would disagree with his reasoning. In fact, I think he sounds rather likable in the transcript. He accepts he is an enemy combatant, but says he does not believe many others in Guantanamo are. He pleads the court president to be release on them and treat them well.

I'll post the link again: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/15_03_07_mohammed_transcript.pdf

Thank you for posting that link.
Very interesting, especially on the next to the last page where he accuses the US of starting world wars one and two. I wonder how he can think that. Were his lessons in school that bad?

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

And I might add always blame the Kafir.

lol nice one. Thanks for making me laugh.

If there is no evidence, make some up.

muslims dont lie

 

[snakelegs]

make 70 excuses for your muslim brother/sister until 100% completely proven guilty.

is this an actual hadith?

 

[Um_ahmad]

lol, You know what ya'll It's all B.S. Thank you:rollseyes

 

[north_malaysian]

"I was responsible for the 9/11 operation, from A to Z," said Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in a partial transcript from a closed-door hearing.

... he also admitted responsibility for a series of attacks, including the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in New York, the bombing of nightclubs in Bali in 2002 and a Kenyan hotel in the same year.

He claimed responsibility for the failed attempt by the so-called shoe bomber, Richard Reid, to bring down an American plane.

Loads of responsibilities there......... from NY to Bali.

He also claimed to be behind plots to assassinate the late Pope John Paul II

too late.. the pope is already dead.

According to the Associated Press news agency, Mr Mohammed confessed to the beheading in a blacked-out section of the transcript.

why "blacked-out"?

"....I don't like to kill children and the kids,".

What are the differences between "children" and "kids"?

It appeared, from a judge's question, that Mr Mohammed had made allegations of torture in US custody.

However, when asked whether his statement was produced under duress, he said it was not.

He's tortured but not under duress.... :blind:

But his confession of involvement in a wide range of ambitious plots reflects his boastful nature and a desire to portray himself as a terrorist mastermind

If he's the ultimate mastermind of all these tragedies ... just give him death penalty.... but he also must apologise to the Muslim ummah worldwide for making our lives miserable....:raging:

 

[*noor]

lol, You know what ya'll It's all B.S. Thank you:rollseyes

good thing im not the only one that thinks so

 

[snakelegs]

Did anyone read the actual transcript? He sounds very plausible and sincere. He explains why they attacked the US, why they are at war with the US. I think there are few Muslims on this board who would disagree with his reasoning. In fact, I think he sounds rather likable in the transcript. He accepts he is an enemy combatant, but says he does not believe many others in Guantanamo are. He pleads the court president to be release on them and treat them well.

I'll post the link again: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/15_03_07_mohammed_transcript.pdf

i have no opinion on his guilt or innocence.
i haven't finished reading it yet. but it strikes me as peculiar that he had an enormous amount of very detailed incriminating evidence right on his hard drive - or the hard drive that was found where he was. i would think anyone sophisticated and clever enought to pull off something like 9/11 would be more careful than to have all this evidence sitting on a hard drive.
pretty careless.

 

[Woodrow]

My personal opinion, he confessed to too many things. Quoting from the topic post:

But his confession of involvement in a wide range of ambitious plots reflects his boastful nature and a desire to portray himself as a terrorist mastermind, says the BBC's security correspondent Gordon Corera.

Makes me think he would confess to assassinating Abraham Lincoln if he thought somebody would believe it.

 

[north_malaysian]

My personal opinion, he confessed to too many things. Quoting from the topic post:



Makes me think he would confess to assassinating Abraham Lincoln if he thought somebody would believe it.

JFK, Mahatma Gandhi, Malcolm X too....

 

[Muezzin]

KSM knows he will never see freedom again, so probably "confessed" to a few crimes and plots that he had no part of. It will be the job of the prosecution to weed through KSM's boastful lies and charge him with crimes that can actually be proven.

Thank you for this sane post.

 

[wilberhum]

This is not about persecuting Muslims. It's about fighting terror.

It's easy for u to say that..
but when muslims r being killed all around us and we can clearly reckon that majority of the dead muslims are innocent people(I am counting the civilians killed in the war against Iraq and Afghanistan) , u can't convince any Muslim this ain't abt religion!

AmarFaisal
I would like to expand on my

It is a war against Islam to the same extent that Islam is at war with the US.

Now think about this.

Why did OBL and his group attack the US?
Because the US has policies that have international repercussions that they want to fight against.
My point is not whether the policies justified the attack or not. The policies were the cause.
He did not do it because we are considered a “Christian Country”.

Why did the US attack Afghanistan?
Because the Afghanistan had policies that had international repercussions that we wanted to fight against.
My point is not whether the policies justified the attack or not. The policies were the cause.
We did not do it because they are a Muslim Country. It just happens that most of the people there are Muslims.

Why did the US attack Iraq?
Because the Iraq had policies that had international repercussions that we wanted to fight against.
My point is not whether the policies justified the attack or not. The policies were the cause.
We did not do it because they are a Muslim Country. It just happens that most of the people there are Muslims.

If the US actions were taken because Afghanistan and Iraq are Muslim countries, how do you explain our relations with Saudi Arabia? If we hate Muslims, why do we still allow Muslims to migrate to the US?

Have there been some wrongful actions towards Muslims?
You bet. Systematic, no.

Do some Americans hate Muslims?
Absolutely! Widespread, no.

Are things worse after 9/11?
Of course. Things like that don’t go unnoticed.

There are those that will not accept reality because that stands in the way of justifying there hate. Too there are those that want to be pictured as the “Under Dog”.
But if you are open minded you will see some truth in what I have said.

If you still think there is a war against Muslims/Islam, send a note to Woodrow.
He is a sane and sensible Muslim.

Wilber

Woodrow, Hope you don't mind.

 

[snakelegs]

when i become a terrorist, i hope i have enough brains not to have "to do" lists sitting around on my hard drive.

 

[wilberhum]

when i become a terrorist, i hope i have enough brains not to have "to do" lists sitting around on my hard drive.

Get a USB drive. :thumbs_up You can store all your "To Do" lists on it and take it with you. You can hide them almost anyplace. :-[
You really need to keep up on those things.