first woman to be jailed for wearing banned Islamic veil

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i think she is sooo amazing to stick to her guns and leave it on..allah will reward her for this..




32 mother , set to become first woman to be jailed for wearing banned Islamic veil
Refused to accept court sentence that she spend 15 days learning her civic duties
'Judges need citizenship lessons - not me'
Taking case to court of human rights
By PETER ALLEN




A 32-year-old mother from France is set to become the first woman ever to be sent to prison for wearing an Islamic veil.
Hind Ahmas refuses to accept the legitimacy of a Paris court which has ordered her to spend 15 days learning her civic duties.
She was sentenced by magistrates in Meaux, a Paris suburb, yesterday - after being arrested wearing an outlawed veil outside the Elysee Palace in the French capital on April 11.


Facing jail: Hind Ahmas, left, could be sentenced to two years in prison for wearing a banned Islamic head covering in France
That was shortly after Nicolas Sarkozy's government introduced a ban on all forms of Islamic head coverings, including the niqab and the burka.
Ahmas was not allowed into the hearing at Meaux Criminal Court because she refused to remove her face covering.
But prosecutors made it clear to her lawyer, Gilles Devers, that Ahmas now faces two years in prison and a £27,000 fine.
'There is no possibility of me removing the veil,' Ahmas said.
'I'm not taking it off. The judge needs citizenship lessons, not me.'
Ahmas, who has already refused to pay a fine of around £100 for wearing a veil on another occasion, intends to take her case to the European Court of Human Rights.
She has launched a pressure group, Do Not Touch My Constitution, along with Kenza Drider, another veil wearer who wants to run for president in the Spring.


New law: Ahmas, 32, pictured with would-be presidential candidate Kenza Drider, is taking her case to the European Court of Human Rights
If Ahmas does become the first woman in the world to go to prison for wearing a veil, then it will be seen as a huge propaganda coup for Islamic-rights campaigners.
Mr Sarkozy said the ban on head coverings was not aimed at persecuting Muslims, but merely to make France a more tolerant, inclusive society.
When it was introduced, he said the ban was aimed at stopping criminals – from terrorists to shoplifters – disguising their faces from security staff and CCTV.
But the sight of a young mother being led away to the cells merely because she refuses to take off her veil will cause outrage around the world.
Mr Devers said the veil ban was 'unconstitutional', while senior police officers have told judges that it is unenforceable without persecuting women.
France became the first country in Europe to outlaw the veil, while similar legislation has since been passed in Belgium and Holland.
One has been mooted in Britain by a number of politicians, including Conservative backbenchers, but there are no immediate plans to introduce one.




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073579/Mother-32-set-woman-jailed-wearing-Islamic-veil.html
 
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Jailed for wearing extra clothes.. what will they think of next?
 
lol i know i cant believe there is ban there, i dont know who sisters cope living there.
 
Hey, French legislature and judiciary:

It's. A. Piece. Of. Cloth.
 
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Muslim women shoulder just wear the surgeons mask, like the Japanese sometimes wear in public to protect other people from catching their diseases.
 
he said the ban was aimed at stopping criminals – from terrorists to shoplifters – disguising their faces from security staff a
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Yeah because criminals are gonna abide by the law :hmm:
 
So they have topless beaches, but you can't wear a head veil? That doesn't sound at all fair.
 
they should do this...


lol its so funny they're afraid of a piece of cloth :P
 
Or wear those V for Vandetta masks, and they'll think you are part of Anonymous.
 
I think that making women uncover their heads is absolutely ignorant. So I guess that means they will stop everyone from head wear. Baseball caps, hoodies, beanies, slouch hats. Dumb laws. Why must they always try to tell people how to run their lives. I guess they are trying to say that if a women covers her face, that she may be hiding something really bad under it. Really? They need average people, who knows what's really happening in the world to run the countries.
 
:sl:

may Allah help the sis and reward her in this life and hereafter.


Facing jail: Hind Ahmas, left, could be sentenced to two years in prison for wearing a banned Islamic head covering in France
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Since I may be the only one here who sees both sides of this issue (though I side with the women's right to wear the veil), I'll lay out some of the reasons non-muslims, and especially the French would be in favour of such a ban.

1. Xenophobia. People fear what is different and like to go against outgroups. This is basic tribalism and it is very much at work here. It is inexcusable if used to try to ban anything.

2. Cultural Misunderstanding. A lot of people in the west see a woman wearing a veil and immediately leap to the conclusion that she is being forced to do so. Why? Because they would not do so voluntarily. They don't realize that many women who wear such veils do it because they want to, and that they even find it empowering. From a western perspective what is seen is a woman from a male dominated society making herself invisible because men don't want to be tempted by her. If it is the men who can't control themselves then why is it the women who have to fix that? Why don't the men just learn to control themselves or wear blinders like on horses if they are so concerned about seeng her face? That is the kind of thinking you will get. Whether it is misplaced is debatable. I don't think it a valid reason to ban the veil, but other westerners disagree.

Now for the rest of this post put the above factor aside (which is big) and try to imagine them wearing a mask other than this one, say a ski mask, sugeon's mask, fencing mask, motorcycle helmet with dark visor etc, and you can see that there ar some valid concerns that go beyond mere bigotry, xenophobia, or culture.

3. Security concern. This is the one concern that resonates the most with me. Most of us in the west are ok with somebody dressed like the above photo if she's just walking down the street. Especially those of us in colder climates. We cover ourselves like that all the time. But I think most of us, and probably many of you, would be far less comfortable if they walked into a store, or especially a bank, and didn't remove the mask. People who hide their faces, who hide their identity, start to look suspicious. Ocassionally you get stories about muslim women who don't want to take it off for voting or for driver license etc and that goes beyond any secular (and I would argue any rational) justification.

4. Interpersonal Distance. There are hundreds (perhaps thousands) of non-verbal social signals and expressions done with the face when you speak with people. The eyes alone should help a little, but really... it seems to me that a lot would be lacking. And when I speak to people I look at their face and it just wouldn't feel comfortable not having a face to speak to. This would be even more important to the French, as they have a very expressive and touchy feely sort of culture (where even men kiss each other on the cheek to say hello). That is on a personal level though and you could simply say we don't have to become their close friends, and being their friends or not has nothing to do with banning them from wearing the veil.

5. Social Distance. The fact that a woman is wearing a head veil tells me she doens't want me looking at her face. It immediately makes me wonder what other social taboos she carries around with her. Can I look at her eyes? Can I shake her hand? Can I speak to her if her husband isn't with her? A lot of these questions I've found answers to since coming to forums like this one but your average non-muslim won't know and may feel very unconfortble even looking in her direction for fear of some unintentional offending to her. That doesn't seem to be any reason to ban the veil though either.

So, personally I fully support your right to wear whatever you want, but others will disagree. And before you see me as totally in your camp, keep in mind that I also fully support the rights of nudists ;D I'm for freedom of a woman to choose how she dresses (or not) and frankly don't see it as any of my business or concern.
 
Greetings Psygoscelis,

Thanks for your post - it is helpful to understand the other side.

I think the security concern partly comes down to culture - some people are not used to seeing women wearing a veil so they might misjudge why they are wearing it. People with bad intentions who hide their identity have a tendency to do so in ways very different to that of a Muslim woman. In the latter's case, it is not the norm for veiled women to commit crimes, hence their covering up should not automatically raise suspicion.

As for interpersonal and social distance (in the context of men approaching women), one might argue this is the whole point of wearing the veil or Hijab in the first place. The word Hijab itself literally means barrier if I am not mistaken.

Regards.
 
They want to make it seem as if muslims are against the law. But in reality, muslims do respect the laws, but these governments continuously invent new laws custom-designed to antagonize muslims freedom, even though these new laws are even against the main principles of freedom and human rights that Europe, and France in particular, allegedly supports.
 
I like what The Italian minister said: The reason behind the opposition to the headscarf ban, clear and simple that the Virgin Mary the mother of Prophet Jesus peace be upon him used to put the veil on her head, too, the holiest woman in history, the woman USANascent mentioned by name in the Quran
He added: "If the Virgin wears one, ask me how any woman who refused to wear hijab."
 
"If the Virgin wears one, ask me how any woman who refused to wear hijab" isn't coherent. Typo?
 
FED UP OF HIJAAB BANS? THEN HAVE YOUR VOTE COUNTED NOW​


The Govt of New Zealand is running an online POLL on yahoo to know our opinion about the banning of the Hijaab in their country...


...Please, let's help our sisters un New Zealand by voting "NO".


http://yhoo.it/9vvJNA


Scimi
 

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