For Muslims: Our attitudes towards Kuffars

Well brother I must disagree... I also have warm fuzzy feelings in addition to the facts of the Quran but I am not a Christian...

but its not your main reason, for most Christians its the emotion thats their main reason.

go watch all these vids of ppl becomming Christian, its all cause they felt happyyyyyy and fuzzyyyyyyyyy, not because of any real facts.
 
keltoi hit the NAIL ON THE HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK U! see im not a bigot after all! i have been saying time and time again for Christians its all about how they feel, the emotions etc etc, that feel good happy sad factor that makes them feel all warm and fuzzy.

for Muslims its about truth and evidences and FACTS, not warm fuzzy emotional feelings. :)
But what you are saying is NOT what Keltoi actually said:
I would even agree that Christianity is more emotional than Islam. A faith based around a God of mercy who through love experienced torture, suffering, and death to achieve atonement for human beings leads to an emotional spirituality.

He said that it is more emotion than Islam, not that it is emotional. And in saying that it leads toward an emotional spirituality, it is saying first that it is a form of spirituality. But Christianity is neither purely emotion, nor devoid of emotion.

We recognize that we have fallen short of what God desires for us in our lives. We experience a type of godly sorrow as we become aware of how far we have fallen short, and no matter all of our good deeds we are still not holy as God would have us be holy. We feel remorse at the depth of our sinfulness. We recognize the utter futility of trying to become righteous by shear effort as if we could somehow pull ourselves up by own bootstraps, and we become ashamed of the pride we have exhibit toward God that somehow he should be pleased with us when all our righteousness is like filthy rags. And we recognize that we not nearly as close to God as we would like to think we are and that instead we are totally and utterly lost without him. Then, in the midst of the despair over our eternal condition, we hear the good news of salvation and redemption available for those who trust in Christ. This good news produces a well of hope that springs up within us. We turn to Christ and with joy receive the gift he offers to us, that we who are not God's people might be accepted as sons and daughters of God, joined to him by the work of Christ. We find peace and contentment as we once again are living in fellowship with God. And we rejoice all the more when we see others experience this same salvation. These are the emotions of our journey with Christ, but it is first and foremost a spiritual journey. It might produce emotions within us, just as observing the work of God in a sunset or the Grand Canyon always produces emotions within me. But the emotion is just a by product of my celebration of what God has done and is doing in me. They are neither a means nor an end to any part of the journey.

Are there not emotions like these I have mentioned (highlighted above) in Islam?
 
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In relation to Chrisitians and what they experience, I just thought I'd post, from scripture, what separates the Christian lifestyle from every other faith based lifesytle.

'Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whomsoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.' John 8: 34-36. This is talking about freedom from sin, no matter what your background is.

'Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.' II Corinthians 5: 17. This is not just referencing your mindset, but your lifestyle, you completely throwing off the sinful man and putting on the righteousness of God.

Here's two more verses:

'What shall we say then? Shall we contine in sin, that grace may abound?

God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?' Romans 6: 1-2.

Or here:

'All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not, but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.' 1 John 5: 17-20.

When the Bible says that Jesus died to take away the sins of the world, that's exactly what it means. It doesn't just mean that he died in all of our places, it means that he came to enable us to live victorious lives, no matter what kind of past we may have.

In Christianity, it's not always necessarily about how you feel, because your feelings can betray you. It's about how you are living, or how you have been enabled to live, through the power of almighty God.
 
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Then what did you mean by, "I was serious and still am about finding the truth; it is not like I want to burn in hell for the rest of eternity." It seems that you are not convinced there is no Hereafter. You may BELIEVE that there is no Heaven or Hell, like in John Lennon's "Imagine", but what IF there really is a God and an Afterlife? What have you done to prepare for that eternal possibility?
I don't know for certain whether there is an afterlife or not. I cannot think of a good reason to believe that it exists, and at the moment I doubt that it exists. I don't know what I could do to prepare for an afterlife since I'm not convinced by any religion. To me Hinduism's afterlife where people are reincarnated into something based on the good that they've done is as likely as Islam's afterlife where getting into heaven and hell is based on belief and Ibadah. If there is a hell I obviously don't want to go there and I do feel sincere about finding the truth.

I love that song :D
 
I don't know for certain whether there is an afterlife or not. I cannot think of a good reason to believe that it exists, and at the moment I doubt that it exists.
I agree that this is something that can't be proven - that is why they call it faith. Honestly, Islam requires a lot of faith, 1) in a God that can not be sensed, 2) that God sent prophets and messengers to mankind, 3) that God revealed messages to mankind through these messengers, 4) that God created angels as spiritual beings, 5) that we will be raised from the dead to face Judgment Day and spend eternity in Heaven or Hell, and 6) that all that happens, the good and the bad, occurs by the Will of God.

Of course, if the first article is false then all of the rest are false too. For myself, I choose to believe that there is a God. I am a plant geneticist and I have some understanding of biology and molecular genetics. I am convinced that this universe and this tiny infintesimally small planet with all of its diversity of life and intricacies of biological systems did not happen by chance, but rather was created by a Divine Being that is infinitely greater than this universe. I choose to believe the rest of the articles of faith because I accept Muhammad as the last Messenger of the Divine Being that we know as Allah through the book He revealed to Muhammad.

If you choose to not share this faith, then of course you have that right to make your own life decisions. Neither I nor anyone else can force you to believe differently than what you choose to believe or disbelieve.
I don't know what I could do to prepare for an afterlife since I'm not convinced by any religion. To me Hinduism's afterlife where people are reincarnated into something based on the good that they've done is as likely as Islam's afterlife where getting into heaven and hell is based on belief and Ibadah.
You are right that proper faith in One God and performance of good deeds such as worship and charity according to His Will are requirements for entrance into Heaven. We will never know for certain if any religion is true at least this side of the grave. After we die, it will be too late then to make any changes.
If there is a hell I obviously don't want to go there and I do feel sincere about finding the truth.
Who in their right mind would choose to go to Hell, but if it doesn't exist, what do you have to worry about?
I love that song :D
Yes, even the irreligious long for a utopia.
 

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