You should care where she is from as, unlike you, she knows first hand the suffering of the Palestinian people. Most of us can only imagine as we sit in the comfort of our war-free armchairs typing into a computer protected by a screen. She has plenty to say, but because it doesn't agree with your post, you dismiss her as pathetic. If someone who has lived through and saw the suffering is able to take the time to appreciate the beauty Allah, swt, created by smelling the fragrance of a rose, surely you are not in a position to be critical??
Who exactly gave you this knowledge about people from there not looking towards the Day of Judgement? Were you given the ability to see inside the hearts and minds of all these people? I'm sure many of our suffering brothers and sisters would love the opportunity to live and raise their children as you live and not have to worry about them being slaughtered on a daily basis. Allah, swt, decides what courses our lives take, not you or me. You say you are willing to give it all up, so why haven't you? You live as Allah, swt, determined...are you questioning that or do you not appreciate what He has ordained for you? Every Muslim is fully aware of the Day of Judgement and when that day comes, you will not be standing there saying "I told you so". You, as all of us will be answering for our own inequities.
All Muslims, regardless of the country where they reside, will face Judgement Day regardless of the nice area and blessings bestowed upon them. Alhamdulillah, Muslims live in every country in the world as it is meant to be.
Again, I have to ask how you obtained this information and your statistics? You have absolutely no way of knowing the hearts and minds of 5.5 billion people, let alone the people on this forum. Islam requires proof to back our words and to not speak without knowledge, so I would really appreciate the source you used to compile this information.
Is is very sad for me to see that you do not appreciate all the beauty Allah, swt, has created for us. If we weren't meant to smell the beautiful fragrance of a flower, why would He have bothered to give each one a distinct odor? Allah, swt, created many things for us to enjoy and appreciate, perhaps as a reminder to thank Him for all things...good and bad. Only He knows the reasons why He ordained one thing for you and another for me and something different for our suffering brothers and sisters all over the world. It is not for you to make that determination sister. We can appreciate all His creations while praying for and doing what we can for the suffering people.
I didn't read where anyone said that if you live in comfort you could not have empathy for those that do not. The sister made a very valid point by telling you she has FIRST hand knowledge about the situation where you do not. Perhaps it would be of benefit to you to visit Palestine and leave all your comforts at home so you too can obtain first hand knowledge, if you have not already done so. You simply can't force your opinions on other people or dismiss them as pathetic because they don't share your ideas.
You can't start a thread and scream it's been derailed because people are going to disagree or be upset by what you type. If you are going to speak the way you do, you have to accept the consequences, both good and bad. Some of your posts contain some valid points, but they get lost by your choice of communication. That's your choice. With freedom of speech comes responsibility and you have to accept that.
I know you believe you don't have to pray for patience, but as your sister in faith, I will pray for you as I want only the best of heart, health and mind for my Muslim family.
May you, and all Muslims, be blessed abundantly this Ramadan and may Allah, swt, accept our fasts. Ameen
Wa'alaikum salam,
Hana
1. What has she been critical of any of my threads??? Just derailing them. Already answered in “I am not going to talk to you”.
-I don’t see her going through any other threads and saying to someone not to talk about gardening etc, My posts are talking about heeding the signs of the Day of Judgement, what is the point of coming in them and saying not to talk about it and instead live in this world as one who holds onto the life of this world???
-Why are you talking as a Christian? Do you think we go through trials for the life of this world??? No. We are here for the time being. First hand experience hasn’t helped her to repect things Islamically, she has persistently derailed threads, that is way of Devils when there is Islamic knowledge they don’t want people to learn and get people to think about other matters, is not derailing hindering what my threads are for??? If she really cared, she would have left them alone, if that is not something she wants to read, then there is no need to say so.
-again talking as a Westerner hearts and minds rubbish, even a religious person was able to recognise the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him before he was providing the message from Allah.
There are over 6 billion people in this world, and they say there is a billion people who are Muslims, no doubt that majority think for the life of this world, and I quoted 5.5 billion but that is over and if you disaagree with this then say it on the Day of Judgemnet.
Again talking as a westerner, asking if I given it up, and flinging anything as it does not apply,
1. Why quote that they worry about being killed on a daily basis, when have I said I am going to sit here happily carrying on?? Also as already confirmed, I am well aware that there are plenty of Palestinaians if they had my life, they would think about carrying on with life. They certainly would not have spent their life as mine and thinking of countries coming to an end, if they can’t do it in a war zone what chance do they have to do it in peace time.
2. I am leaving the UK, also I am being productive, the countries are collapsing, I certainly would not be telling people again and again, for months, I already knew before I joined the internet that people won’t take it seriously, what are you going to accuse me of now, of knowing “hearts and minds” of people. People will be forced to take it seriously.
Again talking as a Christian, how embarrassing, what do people like you don’t understand?? Read “ I am not going to talk to you..” Also the Major signs of they Day of Judgement threads covers it too, that you won’t be able to live as you are today, s. I would rather DIE THEN BE LIKE YOU.
WHY WOULD I NEED TO GO TO PALESTINE?? I AM NOT THE ONE HOLDING ON TO THE LIFE OF THIS WORLD, AGAIN QUOTING ANYTHING AS WESTERNERS DO, YOUR NOT MAKING ANY SENSE, HOW WOULD I CHANGE IF I WENT THERE?/ I WOULD NOT, AS I HAVE ALREADY BEEN HEEDING THE SIGNS OF THEY DAY OF JUDGMENET AND DON’T TALK ABOUT THEM LIKE IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO RECEIVE ANY CRITISICIAM WHICH THEY ENJOY. THEY HAVEN’T FOUGHT A WAR PROPERLY, AND EVEN ARAFAT SAID THEY ARE ONLY WINNING BY HAVING CHILDREN, SO WHEN DID ALLAH SAY THAT IS THE WAY TO FIGHT?? EVEN THEY ARE MAKING IT ACCEPTABLE TO THEIR CHILDREN TO LOOK FOR OTHERS TO HELP THEM, WHEN YOU HAVE TO FIGHT FOR YOURSELF, AND PUSH ON UNTIL YOU CANNOT FIGHT ANYMORE, NOT AS THE PEOPLE WHO USED TO REFUSE TO FIGHT IN THE PAST, WHY DO THEY SMOKE CIGARETTES ETC? YOU SAY THEY HAVE MORE COMFORT THEN ME, WELL THEN SPEAK OF IT ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT.
GOOD JOB I AM NOT IN PALESTINE, I WOULD ONLY FOLLOW AFTER PEOPLE WHO LOOK TOWARDS THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT MORE THEN ME, FRANKLY HOW THE HAVE BEEN IS AN EMBARASSEMENT AND IT WOULD BE UNACCEPTABLE TO PEOPLE IN THE PAST. I AM MUSLIM, A SERVANT OF ALLAH NOT FOR TO BE LED BY THE STUPIDITY OF PEOPLE. ALSO AGAIN THE WAY I AM LIVING IN THIS WORLD IT WOULD NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO HOW I AM AS A PERSON IF I WAS IN PALESTINE AT LEAST I WOULDN'T LOOK FOR THE LIFE OF THIS WORLD, EVEN AFTER OTHERS SEEING SO MUCH THEY STILL TALKING ABOUT LIVING IN THIS WORLD IN THIS DAY AND AGE THANK ALLAH THAT ALL THESE COUNTRIES ARE FINISHING RIGHT NOW. SO I DON'T HAVE TO HEAR PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE GOING TO LIVE AS THEY HAVE DONE BEFORE ETC. GET WITH THE TIMES!!!!!!!
All my threads have been derailed, and you just have, what have you or others disagreeing with me, discussed about my threads?? None.
Your prayers to me don’t count, as you talk as as a Chrisitan where they say things are deemed acceptable in society when you yourself have not even refuted the threads that I have written and you join those who don’t care for knowledge.
See you on the Day of Judgement, and by the time you get there, prayer and read the Quran all over again.
Also do not derail this thread, create your own.
