Freemasons ???

[Christian_dove]

From Wikipedia:

Freemasonry is a worldwide Fraternal organization. Members are joined together by shared ideals of both a moral and metaphysical nature, and, in most of its branches, by a constitutional declaration of belief in a Supreme Being. However, there is no individual or organization that speaks for the whole of Freemasonry. [1]

Freemasonry is an esoteric society, in that certain aspects of its internal work are not generally disclosed to the public, but it is not an occult system. In recent years, it has become less and less a "secret society" and more of a "society with secrets." Among the reasons given for the amount of secrecy that remains, is that Freemasonry uses an initiatory system of degrees to progressively explore ethical and philosophical issues, and that the system is less effective if the observer knows beforehand what will happen. Therefore, the secret aspects of modern Freemasonry mainly deal with modes of recognition among members and parts of the ritual found in these degrees. Most other key components of the fraternity, including leadership, organizational structure, meeting places and membership requirements, have been public knowledge for centuries.

 

[mahdisoldier19]

Alice bailey quoted from a Masonic Master, As you digg deep into the Masonic lodge, it is surely based on the levels of developing Occult Practice. Which is very true as being a former mason i dont partcipate anymore. You get alot of connections though.

 

[iqbal_ibn_adam]

All i wanna say is the freemasons u brs/sis are talking bout here are nothing but normal ppl who want things for free.
i got a freind whos dad and his brs are all freemasons and he told he many times he got arrested his dad got him out without charges and many other things they get for free etc.
The true freemasons no ones knows about them and they are the ones who runs things. before sum1 says queen, blair or bush family etc are the true freemasons, no they are not.these ppl are just the front line soilders.

Yes give dawah to the nomal so-called freemasons but the top dogs im sure they know more about Al-Islam than we do.

in my local area there are bout 5 diffrent freemasons clubs, and after 11 sep they had a open day where anyone could walk in there and ask them questions etc. Me and few brs went there and the place was proper scary and the floor was like a chess board. we asked them wat they do/when they started/who is their leader etc, all they told us that they dnt believe in ny religion and they are a group of ppl who help charities raise funds etc.

We told them they can still do this and be muslims and told them about few basics of deen and they told us it's not sumfing they looked into and are not interested either. so we left:grumbling :grumbling :grumbling

 

[Christian_dove]

All i wanna say is the freemasons u brs/sis are talking bout here are nothing but normal ppl who want things for free.
i got a freind whos dad and his brs are all freemasons and he told he many times he got arrested his dad got him out without charges and many other things they get for free etc.

Sounds like what we call corruption, yes. And it is not a very positive thing if you can go free from your crimes just because you "know someone".

 

[Trumble]

Salam
The death of princes Diana, was because she had wealth. And she was helping poor African countries.
Now what happens when someone helps poor people. This creates a threat.etc.

Diana died because the man driving her car had three times the legal amount of alcohol in his blood, and was driving far faster than he should have been. No conspiracy is needed to explain that.

 

[mahdisoldier19]

Hmmm Did anyone know she was in love with A Egyption Lawyer and the Royal family was scared of Having a Muslim Or if not Muslim African arab descent in the royal family?

Remember just a theory , but ! she was really in love with says her diary!

 

[SolveEtCoagula]

The Meaning of Early Freemasonry

"Because there is a link between what is above and what is below, be aware that every impulse from your higher nature may provoke a reaction from your lower nature, which will do all it can to make you abandon your good intentions. These tricks of the lower nature prove unsuccessful in the disciple who has made a habit of analysing himself and who remains vigilant, for while he works, meditates and builds on the spiritual plane, he attracts and surrounds himself with invisible beings who watch over him and protect him. In early freemasonry, which was based on a true science, the mason was portrayed at work with a trowel in one hand and a sword for self-defence in the other. The mason symbolizes the disciple: while he builds, another being within him, represented by the sword, keeps watch and projects a beam of light. He is thus assured that certain enemies do not slip in under cover of darkness and destroy his work."

Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov

 

[Halima]

Threads merged.

 

[Fishman]

Of course the Freemasons exist, some of my relatives are Freemasons. Whether there is a conspiracy or not is a different matter...

 

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[InToTheRain]

I cousin of mine got invited to be a freemason, and he is a muslim! (kk he doesn't have the full beard etc but fact is dude who invited him didn't care).

Anyways the freemasons my cousins were saying are just a social club, parties, drinks etc and really doubt these guys are part of some conspiracy to take over the world :uuh:

But he was also saying the dudes at the top are whats called the Illumanati, includes memebrs such as Rothschild, Rockefeller, Morgan, Lazard, Warburg, Schroder and Schiff. They actually run the show, and freemasons are pawns who have no clue what the top is upto if you like, freemasons are at the bottom of the pyramid.

as to any conspiracies, Allah-hu-Allom.

But I know some brothers are getting carried away with it, this brother was saying how he took his whole mobile apart coz he suspected this random two people of trying to hack into his mobile phone using their mobile phones...Allah hu allom.

 

[Aisha20]

yes... i think they exist

 

[Sal3ma 7]

yes i think..they exist!

 

[Muezzin]

It's a well-known fact that freemasons exist.

What is frequently debated is whether they control the world.

Incidentally, I know a (Muslim) guy who was approached to become a freemason but has not accepted the offer. I was like, 'Dude, you should have done some spying or something and tell us what goes on in there!' But then, I do have my bouts of irrationality.

 

[Curaezipirid]

My comprehension is that being a member of a Masonic temple is a different thing from being a "freemason". A freemason could be loosely defined as liken to a Muslim whom has performed Hajj but has no real Imam nor attends a defined Mosque. But Freemasons most often make their presence knowable to others and often through a variety of different social clubs or academic work. Some are truly only the occult; while others have sustained the traditions of Islam in any way they are able within modern contexts of 'the west'. As their money talks know how to discriminate one group from the next. But to use that method of discriminating, you need be yourself well resourced in differentiated one money trick from the next. But the term Freemason implies a looser structure than any lodge and in which one might not know if the money of another is that in black magic or that real. The occult, as a social formulation is rather like a Religion of dismembering other Religions and which only real shaytan can find any beneficience to become a member of.

But there are Muslims in 'the west' whom have been invited to, and attended for awhile, Masonic temples. I do not know what will become of that tradition. Especially since they themselves include a few persons whom have worked hard to model their own little portion of prophesy into what they wanted it to be like; and in that nearly prevented it from being able to be realised, and at that nearly written their existance out of any substance of any prophesy. Maybe another group will form and fulfill the portion of prophesy that Masons within and outside of Masonic Temples seemed aligned to acheive.

wasalam

 

[Littleozzybloke]

freemasonry is in oz too..my father became a grand master of a lodge....
all cloaked up in black with coloured vests and his little black book that he murmered from...as a child...i remember a lot of murmering...and i was told never to say anything about it as it was sort of secret...not even females were allowed..
I never wanted anything to do with it...seemed a bit on the 'dark side'....but there is enormous history to them all...

 

[Pk_#2]

AsalamuAlaykum,

well to tell the truth i duno much about them, but i will once iv'e read these 11 pages :|

...inshaAllah

 

[akulion]

while everyone else in the world was doing what they are supposed to be doing, we encounter the muslims who instead of doing what they are supposed to be doing were always worrying about conspiracies against them

and so here we are

 

[Curaezipirid]

yes

I know now another Aussie who had inherited her father's full regalia of being a grand master. How about that? Encountering two such stories in one life time.

Actually I caught out and make an example of in some of my stories two different Masons; but I had intended that my Father and a Husband would get the lesson with the full regalia. Too bad for the Masons since they want to be saved. I even identified for sale two of their funny gold ball things that open out into eighths; but nobody turned up in time to help me out, I got less and less and less monetary means instead of being merited with my worth, and my children are still being ignored by the family court in the fact that they are afraid of being seriously assaulted by their father if they speak up to defend me.

I reckon that Freemasons were fools to try to profit from my bad reputuation in general; because alone without me John Nawakie ain't going to save them. But since anybody figured he might be who can; he is getting assaulted in mind and feeling to a similar degree as that other possiblities of who it could be. The Aboriginal community only what that it is not me since I am white, or is it since I am a Muslim, no, perhaps because I am Christian; Holy moly it might be because I have long had a reputation as a good mother! Well that is the part of the Aboriginal community who fancy that they save the whole planet by ignoring that other work besides there own ever took place, who are only a minority barely big enough to have given me such a bad reputation among Freemasons that the Freemasons wouldn't believe their own story.

You see the Masons have a Myth that one day they would be counted among the Saved (well presumably not all of them but that their social method can earn the merit to enable) and their Myth connects to the fact of being saved by a man with a very small penis. But some of them supposed that it being small meant it was for the wrong orifice. And I happen to have met about three men who it could have been but for the fact of Freemasons and those acting at their behest, drugging them and shoving wrong orifices in their direction. Not to mention the body piercing etc. Today the Freemasons are counting as who sent us all to Hell; but I know that not all of them believe the Rosicrucian false ideology about belief.

 

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Freemasonry and ruling on joining the Masons ​

Question:

What is Freemasonry, and what is the ruling on it in Islam? What is the ruling on joining the Masons?.



Answer:


Praise be to Allaah.



Freemasonry is a secret political society whose goal is to put an end to all religions and good morals, and to replace them with man-made laws and non-religious systems. It strives to provoke ongoing revolutions and to replace one regime with another, on the basis of its call for freedom of thought and freedom of belief. This is what they have stated clearly.
This is what was announced by one of them in the Students’ Conference held in 1865 CE in the city of Liege which is considered to be one of the centers of Freemasonry.



He said:
Man must prevail over God, and declare war on Him. He should demolish the heavens and tear them like paper.







It says in the Masonic Grand Lodge (1922, p. 98): We will strengthen the freedom of individual thought with all the powers at our disposal, and we will declare war against the real enemy of man, which is religion.
The Masons say that Masonry takes the human soul as its object of worship.





They say: It is not enough for us to prevail over the religious people and their places of worship, rather our basic goal is to wipe them out of existence.







Minutes of the World Masonic Conference, 1903 CE, p. 102.
They say: Freemasonry will take the place of religion and its Lodges will take the place of places of worship… and there are many other statements which clearly point to the intensity of their enmity towards religion and their uncompromising war on religion.





The Freemasons are one of the most ancient secret societies which still exist and its origins are still unknown to many people and are still unknown to many of their members, because the plots of their leaders are very secret and hidden and they are so keen to conceal their plots and aims. Therefore most of their affairs are conducted verbally, with no written record.





When they want to write an idea or announce it to the public, it is first subjected to the scrutiny of Masonic censors who decide whether it may be released or not. The foundations of Freemasonry were based on theories taken from several sources, mostly from Jewish traditions.









This is supported by the fact that Jewish ideas and teachings were taken as the basis for the founding of the Grand Lodge in 1717 CE with its principles and symbols. The Masons still venerate the Jew Hiram and the temple that he built, from which they take the design of the Masonic lodges in the world. The greatest Masonic leaders are Jews and form the backbone of the Masonic movement, and they are the ones who represent Jewish organizations in Masonic lodges. It is to them that the spread of Masonry and global cooperation between Freemasons is to be attributed. They are the driving force behind Freemasonry and this Jewish elite are leading different secret cells, running their affairs and directing them secretly as they wish. This is supported by a report in the Masonic Acacia magazine (1908, issue no. 66) which says that there is no Masonic lodge that is free of Jews and that all the Jews do not follow one way or another exclusively, rather there are only principles for them to follow. And this is also the case with the Masons. Hence the Jewish synagogues are our [Masons’] support and we find many Jews among the Freemasons.









This is also supported by what it says in the Masonic publications: that the Jews are certain that the best means of destroying religion is Freemasonry. The history of the Masons is similar to the history of the Jews in belief. Their symbol is the six-pointed Star of David. The Jews and the Freemasons both consider themselves to be the spiritual sons of the builders of the Temple of Solomon. The Freemasonry which distorts other religions lends full support to Judaism and its followers. The Jews took advantage of people’s simple-mindedness and good intentions, and infiltrated Freemasonry and reached high positions within it, thus they breathed a Jewish spirit into the Masonic lodges and subjugated them to their own aims.







One of the clearest indications of their intense desire to conceal their plans to destroy religions and provoke political revolutions is what it says in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, where it says: we will concentrate these cells under a single leadership that is known to us alone. This leadership will be composed of our scholars and these cells will have special representatives, so that the true location of our leadership will be concealed. This leadership alone will have the right to decide who will speak, and to draw up the plans of the day. In these cells we will plan to lay traps for all the socialists and classes of revolutionary society. Most of the secret political plans are known to us and we will decide when to implement them. But the agents of the international secret police will be members of these cells. When the conspiracies start throughout the world, that will mean that one of our most dedicated agents will be at the head of these conspiracies and of course we will be the only people to direct the Masonic plans. We are the only people who know how to direct them and we know the ultimate goal of each action, whilst the illiterates – meaning non-Jews – are ignorant of most of these things, especially Masonry, and they can only see the immediate results of what they are doing.







And there is other evidence which points to the strong connection between the Jews and the Masons, and the cooperation between the two parties in revolutionary conspiracies and stirring up destructive movements. Even though Freemasonry outwardly appears to be a call to freedom of belief, tolerance and social reform in general, in fact it is really a call for permissiveness and destructive factors which cause social disintegration and the loosening of bonds between nations and destruction of religion and morals and the spread of mischief.









Based on this, any Muslim who joins a Masonic group knowing the true nature of Freemasonry and its secrets, and carries out its rituals and is keen to do so, is a kaafir who should be asked to repent. If he repents, all well and good, otherwise he is to be put to death and if he dies in that state then his recompense will be that of the kaafirs. Whoever joins the Freemasons but does not know what they really are, or know about their plots against Islam and the Muslims, and their spreading evil and the evil that they are planning against everyone who tries to bring people together and reform nations, and he joins them in their general activities and talk that does not apparently contradict Islam, is not a kaafir, rather he is excused in general because of their concealing their true nature from him, and because he does not share their basic beliefs or aims. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Acts are but by intentions, and each man will have but that which he intended.”





But he must disavow himself of them when he finds out what they really are, and he must tell people about their real nature and strive to spread their secrets and their plots against the Muslims, so that this will cause a scandal for them and will undermine their efforts. The Muslim should surround himself with good people who will cooperate with him in his religious and worldly affairs. He should be far-sighted in choosing close friends so that he will be safe from being tempted by these apparently attractive ideas and be safe from the evil consequences of honeyed words, and so he will not fall into the traps of the people of shirk which they set up to ensnare those who are easily deceived, follow their whims and desires and are weak in reasoning.







From Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 2/312-315.

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