Freemasons ???

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I voted no, not because I don't believe in an organization called Freemasons, but simply because I don't think they are what conspiracy theorists and drama queens have made them out to be.
 
salam

I am reading back through this thread and finding that I am needing to report that I was actually invited to join an occultists lodge, but I declined the offer. I had been accessing their library for a fee. The invitation was made only because they realised that I had learned so much about their business that they would be better of if all my own affairs were aligned with theirs as though the same interests. But it was clear to me that my own interests were totally divergent from theirs. Yet what seems to be the case is that almost all members are persons whom have found out a few too many facts, and then are invited to join as though it is a good investment in the future, when in fact quite the reverse.

Although the lodge I was invited to join was not a Masonic lodge as such, it is connected as a Rosicrucian lodge. However, through my experience I will here advise all believers not to join such organisations unless it can be proven that there is no Rosicrucian affiliation, and I believe that then there are no actual Masonic Lodges which I will advise be avoided. But I can not be totally certain, since the Masonic tradition is older and truly a tradition in Christ. The reverence of masonry has its real foundation in Ka'ba.

If there are real believing lodges then they are not for my knowledge.

Clearly whom identify as freemasons are a very variable bunch of persons. Any of us could just decide group together and name our local Mosque a Masonic Temple, or just chose to be a Freemason in mind, with reference to Ka'ba, and so long as we are not affiliated with the occult, we are in no infringment of Shari'ah. That is, so long as there is no compulsion in belief.

The fault with the secrecy is only that of need to be proving that there is no compulsion in religion, need for each our own selves to be constantly re-committing to Islam, by rechosing correctly.

The worst aspect of the secrecy is only that Freemasons secrecy had enabled many Rosicrucian and other occultists to cover themselves as though they are only Masons. But in fact within Rosicrucian organisations there are individuals whom are exceptionally cruel towards those with real masonic belief, whom are mentally tortured. I have witnessed that. I fact I bore witness to the Soul of a person departing their body through the mental torture of persecution aimed towards preventing them being able to believe in Allah. It was an actual priest involved with the physical conditioning of the psychological torture; and whom was sitting next to the person whose Soul departed, right at that moment.

But the fact is that Masons are not particularly secret. Their signs are on the American dollar bill.

Partly why I am making this post now is because I read some of what others were posting which tries to maintain that all persons whom might ever identify as Freemasons, are non-effective and/or anti-Islamic, and needing to be dismissed.

The fact is that among all those whom identify as Freemasons, there are a few believers, and many occultists, and many whom want to abuse the whole social structure into their interests.

Both groups deserve not to be ignored. The decent Humanity among needs to be acknowledged, as the depravity among needs to be disclaimed and caused to become ineffective.

I wish for it to become true that the occult is made ineffective. But while ever they are effecting us all (most often through money, but in every part of this world which will end), and we have been letting them effect us, we may be needing also to realise that any true in belief whom are among Freemansons and Masons, have to be merited with the full worth of their prayers. Such prayer, in real belief, is a sustaining as is our own Muslim prayer.

Alaykumassalamu
 
I ought to add that most believers whom orient to the conditions of a Freemason identity, will be those whom are also known to a Masonic lodge with other believers among, or, more likely, to a Church, in which other believers are in Prayer.

Real Masons all work only to Revelations of all among the scriptures and Prophesies.

wasalam
 
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Do U mean freemansory, a jews organization?
Someone who join them then theyre with them destroying Islam generation
 
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Do U mean freemansory, a jews organization?
Someone who join them then theyre with them destroying Islam generation
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Freemasons are not a Jewish organisation! :heated: I have some relatives who are freemasons, but they are not Jewish at all.

Freemasonry is more like a very strange social club. I think they do all these odd things (e.g. strange symbols, secrecy, robes etc.) just to attract the public's attention.
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Freemasons are not a Jewish organisation! :heated: I have some relatives who are freemasons, but they are not Jewish at all.

Freemasonry is more like a very strange social club. I think they do all these odd things (e.g. strange symbols, secrecy, robes etc.) just to attract the public's attention.
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They wont admit its jews organization of course, but their activities is destroying Islam and its generation. I have a book which explain about it. But what I know its freemansory and not freemasons :rollseyes
 
this is gna sound so stupid but i heard the queen is a freemason;) lol can u imagine her doing wateva they do lol
 
History

The precise origins of Freemasonry have been lost in time, however, its traditions date back to the Middle Ages and to the stonemasons who built the cathedrals and castles of Europe. To construct them, it was necessary for men to have considerable knowledge of geometry, arithmetic and engineering. These highly skilled masons formed themselves into lodges to protect the skills and secrets of their trade and to pass their knowledge on to worthy apprentices. Importantly, these men were not bondsmen, hence the word "free" in Freemason.

By the 17th Century, when the building of castles and cathedrals diminished, Masonry began to lose its 'operative' aspects and worthy men who were not craftsmen were also accepted into its membership. It was from this time that Masons were known as 'free and accepted' Masons, as they continue to be known to this day.

The first Grand Lodge was established in England in 1717 and thereafter Freemasonry spread rapidly throughout the world. Freemasonry has been practised in Australasia since early in the 19th Century.

A Freemasons Code

* To share a concern and respect for human values, moral standards, the laws of society and the rights of individuals

* To believe in a Supreme Being

* To help other people through charity work and community service

* To promote fellowship and goodwill amongst his fellow members

* To regularly attend Lodge meetings and participate, with his family, in masonic activities


The Myths Dispelled

* It is not a secret society but embraces confidentiality

* It is not a religion or a substitute for religion

* It emphasises universal harmony and does not permit discussion of religion or politics

* It is not a benefit society and to join for personal gain will only lead to disappointment

 

famous freemasons


Churchill, Winston - British politician and writer. Prime Minister (1940-1945 and 1951-1955). His inspiration is often credited with helping Britain survive under the onslaught of Hitler's evil

Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan - British physician and writer, creator of the famous "Sherlock Holmes".

Edward VII - Prince of Wales and subsequently King of England
Edward VIII - King of England who abdicated the throne in less than 1 year in order to marry the woman he loved.

George VI - King of England during World War II.

Warner, Jack - One of the brothers who created the American motion-picture production company known as Warner Brothers. They were the first to use sequences of sound in a silent feature film.

Webb, James E. - NASA Administrator.

Wynn, Ed - Movie actor and comedian, he introduced "Carmel Comedy Caravan".

the sign is on the us dollor
 
salam
i think its all a myth created by people and media
wasalam

Be careful they can hear you... lol. Look what ever there called Freemasons, Illumanity bla bla bla. One thing is clear there all working and prepering the comming of the Dajal. You may call them for-runners to the Dajal. So thats why we as Muslims should preper ourselves and become for-runners for Imam Mehdi and Isa (Jesus) PBUH. When they return.
 
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I think what SZ said is pretty accurate. They are just an odd social club that has been completely hyped up by the media.
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1. The Freemasons

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This is the granddaddy of all not-so-secret secret societies. Freemasonry, or "The Craft" as its members call it, most likely has its roots in 17th-century stone workers’ guilds. Mason lore, however, extends its origins back to biblical times, linking the society to the building of the Temple of Solomon. Freemasonry is split into numerous subgroups and orders, all of which consider God the Grand Geometrician, or Grand Architect of the Universe. At their hearts, these groups are all means of exploring ethical and philosophical issues, and their rituals and symbols are famous (or infamous). Take, for instance, the square-and-compass logo often seen on the backs of Cadillacs. Or the use of secret handshakes, passwords, and greeting posture/gesture called "due guards," all collectively known as the Modes of Recognition. The list of famous Masons is massive, a virtual Who’s Who of modern history, explaining the many conspiracy theories regarding the Masons’ influence and intentions. Mozart, FDR, Harry S. Truman, George Washington, Mark Twain, Voltaire, Benjamin Franklin, John Wayne, W.C. Fields, and Douglas MacArthur were all Masons. But perhaps the Masons’ greatest strides have been made in fast food: KFC’s Colonel Sanders and Wendy’s founder Dave Thomas knew how to secret-shake with the best of ‘em.

2. The Illuminati

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Over the centuries, lots of groups have called themselves the Illuminati ("Enlightened Ones"), but the one we’re talking about here began as the Bavarian Illuminati. A radical product of the Enlightenment and offshoot of the religion-based Freemasons, the Illuminati espoused secular freethinking and intellectualism and proved a threat to Europe’s old order. Although they were officially banned by the Bavarian government in 1784, some claim that they live on to this day in other guises (see "the Trilateral Commission"). So what’s the Illuminati’s goal? To establish a new world order of capitalism and authoritarianism, of course! They’ve been accused of manipulating currencies, world stock markets, elections, assassinations, and even of being aliens. One common myth is that the eye-and-pyramid image on the dollar bill is a symbol of the Illuminati watching over us. Nope. It’s a symbol of strength and durability (though unfinished, symbolizing growth and change), and the all-seeing eye represent the divine guidance of the American cause. Or so the government says.


3. Opus Dei

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This organization has a $42 million, 17-story headquarters building on Lexington Avenue in New York City, claims 85,000 members in 60 countries, and was featured in Dan Brown’s bestseller The Da Vinci Code. Now that its existence has been significantly unsecretized, this ultraorthodox Catholic sect has definitely raised its share of eyebrows. Founded in 1928 by Saint Josemaría Escrivá (a Spanish priest who bore an uncanny resemblance to Karl Malden), Opus Dei is the short name for the Prelature for the Holy Cross and the Work of God. The sect (some would say cult) stresses a return to traditional Catholic orthodoxy and behavior, especially celibacy, with members falling into one of three levels. Numeraries live in Opus Dei facilities, devote their time and money to the prelature, attend mass daily, and engage in mortification of the flesh (wearing a spiked chain around the thigh called a cilice, taking cold showers, or flagellating themselves with a knotted rope called "the discipline").


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Next come Associates (kind of Numeraries, but living "off campus"), then Supernumeraries (the rank-and-file members). The group did gain the praise of Pope John Paul II, and has engaged in a lot of charity work. yet, critics accuse the group of being linked to fascist organizations like Franco’s government in Spain, and of anti-Semitism and intolerance, even of other Catholics.

4. Skull and Bones

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Top dog among all the collegiate secret societies, Yale’s Skull and Bones dates to 1832 and goes by other spooky names like Chapter 322 and the Brotherhood of Death. With a large number of Bonesmen who have attained positions of power, including the president and the head of the CIA, it’s no wonder that rumors abound that the society is hell-bent on obtaining power and influencing U.S. foreign policy. The fact that they meet in an imposing templelike building on the Yale campus called (what else?) the Tomb doesn’t really help. Bonesmen are selected, or "tapped," during their junior year and can reveal their membership only after they’ve graduated. But they can never talk about it. The Bones have been accused of all sorts of crazy rituals and conspiracies, including drug smuggling and the assassination of JFK (a hated Hahvahd man, after all). It’s even rumored that the skull of Geronimo resides in the Tomb, stolen from its resting place by Prescott Bush, Dubya’s granddad. In one of the more commonly known rituals, the initiate spends all night naked in an open coffin, confessing all his sexual experiences to the group. So, who’s lucky enough to have made such as confession? George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, John Kerry, William Howard Taft, McGeorge Bundy, William F. Buckley, and Henry Luce are just a few.

5. The Bohemian Club

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This is a weird one. In the majestic forests of Sonoma County north of San Francisco lies the Bohemian Grove, the 2,700-acre wooded retreat of the Bohemian Club, the nation’s most exclusive men’s club. Every July since 1879, the "Bohos" have gathered at the Grove for a two-week encampment, where they’re divided into more than 100 residential camps with names like Owl’s Nest, Cave Man, and Lost Angels. Membership has included, well, just about everybody important: Ronald Reagan, Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon (who once called it "faggy"), Gerald Ford, Colin Powell, Dick Cheney, and many CEOs and wealthy business leaders like Malcolm Forbes. Each encampment opens with a robed-and-hooded ceremony called the Cremation of Care, in which an effigy called "Dull Care" (symbolizing worldly concerns) is burned before a 40-foot concrete statue of an owl, symbol of wisdom and the club’s mascot. Throughout the week, plays are staged (called High Jinx and Low Jinx), there’s lots of eating and drinking (and, reportedly, urinating on trees), and members are treated to speeches called Lakeside Talks. Some opponents go so far as to accuse the group of Satanism, witchcraft, homosexuality, and prostitution, while more reasonable observers object to the Lakeside Talks as national policy discussions to which the public is not privy. But above all, it’s seen as a way that some of the elite meet others of the elite, thereby ensuring that they’ll all stay elite. All this makes the club’s seemingly anticonspiratorial slogan - "Weaving spiders, come not here" - that much more ironic.


6. The Trilateral Commission

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While not, on its face, as juicily sinister as some of the other societies on this list, the Trilateral Commission has been accused of all sorts of underhanded shenanigans by its critics. Formed in 1973 by David Rockefeller, the Commission includes over 300 prominent citizens from Europe, Asia, and North America in a forum for discussing the regions’ common interests. But conspiracy theorist hold that the Trilateral Commission, along with the Council on Foreign Relations and others, is really just a front for a larger, more sinister order called the Round Table Groups, founded in London over 100 years ago and bent on the creation of new world order, a global capitalist police state. Yikes! (For the record, some say that the Round Table Groups are themselves just fronts for another society, the Illuminati, so who knows?) American members of the Trilateral Commission have included Bill Clinton, Henry Kissinger, Jimmy Carter, Dick Cheney, and Dianne Feinstein.

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The Definitley Exist........But I aint really sure what they do.........There is one Freemason building near my area......
I'm 100% sure they exist but I Dunno.......if they are linked with devil worshipping and Illuminati..............I think its hierarchy of freemasons..........and The Upper Class Freemasons are the secret ones the evil ones..........and they also got the lower class ones.......
 
The Definitley Exist........But I aint really sure what they do.........There is one Freemason building near my area......
I'm 100% sure they exist but I Dunno.......if they are linked with devil worshipping and Illuminati..............I think its hierarchy of freemasons..........and The Upper Class Freemasons are the secret ones the evil ones..........and they also got the lower class ones.......

The are Masons who are free of a lodge.

(not free like a flying buttress?)

And a Mason is a person whose worship of God in Jesus is attuned through Ka'bah if a true believer.

Unfortunately many who claim to be the Masons are more like to being only Rosicrucians and not believers.

The problem is that the shayteen, if having once been through any Masonic induction, (like an initiation through Ka'ba or New Grange in Ireland, and other Indigenous rituals), are less able to believe rather than more able like the rest of us. That is how the Masonic tradition had ever been able to be corrupted, because the shayteen just don't get any fear of Jehannam. They are more afraid of Ants than of Jahannam. That is why Indigenous cultures in which Animist belief instructs that a person can be turned into an Ant, will become powerful.

Salam
 

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