French Magazine to print cartoons of prophet Mohammed (PBUH)

[User29123]

I think they are all pushing it now,I think Muslims should just go back to Muslims countries then stop the oil supply, these guys can work on their own


http://news.sky.com/story/986820/france-to-shut-embassies-over-cartoon-fears

 

[جوري]

walhi they're begging for a world war III. Problem is we're spinning on two different axises- fighting our own despots inside and the rabid dogs outside..at any rate drawing a pic and naming doesn't denote it is the prophet etc.
It would be interesting to note that the Vatican filed a suit against a magazine for mocking drawings against the pope and won the suit and the same with the naked duchess and they also won.. there's no end to their stench otherwise..

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

walhi they're begging for a world war III. Problem is we're spinning on two different axises- fighting our own despots inside and the rabid dogs outside..at any rate drawing a pic and naming doesn't denote it is the prophet etc.
It would be interesting to note that the Vatican filed a suit against a magazine for mocking drawings against the pope and won the suit and the same with the naked duchess and they also won.. there's no end to their stench otherwise..

Thats their plan, to start it. And i have no doubts anymore- i think 2013 will be the start but thats me, looking at the events now. the sudden war games in israel, persian gulf, iran, turkey...et cetera. I have no knowledge and especially not from the unseen but man, they're moving fast. are we prepared, our imaan?

 

[ba51th]

seeing all of this anti-Islam lately make me want to be dead already...

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

seeing all of this anti-Islam lately make me want to be dead already...

do not wish for death.

 

[ba51th]

if you defend your religion, they will call you terrorist or radical, if you let them keep mocking your religion they will never hesitate to cross the red line...

I hope they drop nuke on me, really...

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

if you defend your religion, they will call you terrorist or radical, if you let them keep mocking your religion they will never hesitate to cross the red line...

I hope they drop nuke on me, really...

Wallahi, are you such a weak person? Where is you strenght, where is your imaan? a muslim simply doesnt care for what the disbelievers say, remember the afflictions prophet muhammed(Saw) and the sahaba(Ra) suffered...and they still kept on and on till islam became succesful.

Hold in your emotions.

 

[observer]

It would be interesting to note that the Vatican filed a suit against a magazine for mocking drawings against the pope and won the suit and the same with the naked duchess and they also won.. there's no end to their stench otherwise..

That wasn't in France though:

Charlie Hebdo, known in France for its scatological cartoons, has caricatured other religious figures in the past, including a "Pope special" in 2008 which resulted in an unsuccessful court action accusing the magazine of inciting hate.

The naked duchess - do you mean the recent scandal with the British princess Kate Middleton? That complaint was upheld because of French privacy laws - although the photos have been published in various other countries where the law is not the same.

 

[DavidK565]

The purpose of the cartoons is to provoke a response that will reinforce the notions that the rest of the world has regarding Islam. It has become commonplace to see irrational overreaction and violence to provocations such as these, which leads to more provocation which again proves their point.

The only way to break this cycle is for the offended to NOT take the bait. They have to learn not to burn flags, scream "Death to (fill in your country)!", or murder ambassadors. By demonstrating this type of control, the world could see that Muslims are rational and peaceful. And when that happens, the provocations will decrease. And with that, there will be less cause for violent outbursts in the first place.

Just remember that your beliefs do not have to be everyone else's beliefs. The Prophet does not mean the same to them as he does to you. And certainly, if you have true belief in your faith and your god, then certainly those who mock the Prophet will get what is coming to them, without any interference from you. So let it go, let it roll off your back, and let what will be.

 

[Al-Wasia]

"French Magazines are now publishing more and more cartoons etc. that mock Islamic beliefs and are purposely targeting sentiments of millions of Muslims worldwide. Their take on this: Protection of Freedom of Press.


Oh Muslims.. The more you revolt and become volatile the more you will see these actions taking place. This is what they want. They want to keep us distracted and busy being angry and upset over things.


Wakeup.. Have our demonstrations affected anything in the past? Did our leaders ever take our demands seriously?


Stop being angry and think what you can "really" do? How can you "really" protest that would make a change?


Like they are claiming to protect the right of the press... You not only have a right but an obligation to protect the Prophet (saw)...How can you do that?


Follow his teachings.. Follow his Sunnah.. Turn to Allah swt.. Beg Him to change our condition of humiliation. Change yourself once and for all. If you want to protect the Prophet (saw), protect Him in your actions, beliefs, legacy, and manners.


Remember... What the Prophet (saw) said: No one becomes a true believer unless I become more dear to him than anything else.


It is Time to become a believer... Time to own up to our claim of "loving" him.. Time to show that we really are sincere. Follow him through his sunnah and beg Allah swt for guidance and pray that we are able to do justice to our obligations.


Our demonstrations, condemnations, boycotts, protests, demeaning others will not avail us anything. We need to take actions that would make a difference not cause us to look like fools and emotional maniacs in front of others.


We are the people of forbearance and wisdom.. We need to demonstrate that above all else...."

 

[جوري]

That wasn't in France though:

it doesn't matter where in the west, what matters is that it can be done.. Of course there are many other means such as when we boycotted dutch products and their businesses suffered!
nonetheless this again points out the double standard!

 

[observer]

We are the people of forbearance and wisdom.. We need to demonstrate that above all else....

A nice quote, I think.

I think there will be a few more of these incidents in the coming months. Any satirical magazine or "hard-hitting" newspaper wanting to make a statement (and up it's sales - reports are that sales of this French magazine have rocketed, especially in Muslim majority areas where many are being bought to be destroyed) knows that they will make the news by being "edgy" and publishing something like this.

It's like a naughty child - stop paying attention and they'll start doing something else.

 

[observer]

nonetheless this again points out the double standard!

How does it point out a double standard? The French authorities denied the Catholic protest was justified and they have denied the Muslim protest.

it doesn't matter where in the west

You can't talk about the west as one place - that's ridiculous.

 

[جوري]

How does it point out a double standard? The French authorities denied the Catholic protest was justified and they have denied the Muslim protest.

I wasn't speaking of a protest.
I was speaking of this which is congruous to the thread title:
http://life.nationalpost.com/2012/0...an-magazine-over-satirical-vatileaks-cover/us to

and also this per regard to the 'duchess'
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-french-ruling-on-kate-sunbathing-photos.html

or what is wrong with you- why not do some research before you write?

You can't talk about the west as one place - that's ridiculous.

Do you not exercise the same brand of freedom in the west that is missing from the 'muslim world'? Or is a catch all terms & policies only appropriate only when mocking Islam?

 

[observer]

Do you not exercise the same brand of freedom in the west that is missing from the 'muslim world'

No, we don't. Where do you mean when you say "west"?

You can't talk about the west as one place - that's ridiculous.

I wasn't speaking of a protest...

or what is wrong with you- why not do some research before you write?

Sigh - The Pope article was in Germany, not France.

The French authorities have reacted in exactly the same way with the Muhammed cartoons as they did with the Pope cartoons. How, therefore, does that show a double standard? Or are you counting Germany and France as the same place because they are in "the west"?

By "protest" here, I am talking about the protestations made to the authorities, not a demonstration in the streets.

 

[جوري]

I am not going to descend down to wordplay simply for your desire to either save face, deflect from the issue completely or dilute the double standard.
I think anyone with the slightest ability to reason can see what's wrong with this picture & especially with regards to what I have posted!

best,

 

[observer]

I am not going to descend down to wordplay simply for your desire to either save face, deflect from the issue completely or dilute the double standard.
I think anyone with the slightest ability to reason can see what's wrong with this picture & especially with regards to what I have posted!

No wordplay here - The event that you highlighted was in Germany, this latest incident is France. How is pointing this out "wordplay"?

There is no double standard here as France has maintained a consistent line with regard to similar incidents.

I don't need to "save face". You, however, need to recognise that "the west" consists of more than one country. We are not all the same.

 

[glo]

It's like a naughty child - stop paying attention and they'll start doing something else.

I agree with that.

 

[glo]

I think there will be a few more of these incidents in the coming months. Any satirical magazine or "hard-hitting" newspaper wanting to make a statement (and up it's sales - reports are that sales of this French magazine have rocketed, especially in Muslim majority areas where many are being bought to be destroyed) knows that they will make the news by being "edgy" and publishing something like this.

Still, I find it upsetting that people - even if it is their legal right - choose to do and say things which they KNOW are deeply insulting and hurtful to other people. :hmm:

I mean, don't we teach our children in the playground not to do that ... when they are about 5??

 

[جوري]

No wordplay here -

that's exactly what it is sans the skill to hide it well!
And if you had some intellectual honesty you'd have clicked on the second link to see where the suit took place!
Best,