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Vandals have desecrated 148 Muslim graves in France's biggest WWI cemetery, officials have said.

A pig's head was hung from one headstone and slogans insulting Islam and France's Muslim justice minister were daubed on other graves.

President Nicolas Sarkozy condemned the attack as a "hateful act" and the "most inadmissible kind of racism".

About 78,000 colonial subjects of France, including many Muslims from North Africa, died in the war.

The Notre Dame de Lorette war cemetery, near Arras in northern France, is on the site of some of WWI's largest battles.

About 100 police officers have been sent to the cemetery to investigate the incident.

President Sarkozy has called for the rapid detention and punishment of those responsible.

In a similar attack in April 2007, Nazi slogans and swastikas were painted on about 50 graves in the Muslim section of the cemetery. Two men were sentenced to a year in prison for that act.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7333344.stm
 
A disgrace! Awful!:raging:
Muslims whose graves have been defiled did more for France than these nazi hate mongers ever will!
 
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They are ignorant. First of all many Muslims were allied with Nazi Germany. Arabs attacked the British Garrison in Baghdad with promises from the Third Reich of air support (which never came). The Grand Mufti of Palestine was a huge proponent of the "Final Solution" and was put in charge of his own SS unit made up of mostly muslims in Serbia.
 
never liked the french much... just goes to show the level of idiocy and impertinence still readily available in the world today
 
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I just cannot understand why anyone would want to deface a grave. It's like, is nothing sacred left in the world? Can the dead not just be left to you know rest?
 
Izyan said:
. First of all many Muslims were allied with Nazi Germany. Arabs attacked the British Garrison in Baghdad with promises from the Third Reich of air support (which never came). The Grand Mufti of Palestine was a huge proponent of the "Final Solution" and was put in charge of his own SS unit made up of mostly muslims in Serbia.
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Nonsense!
 
Unfortunately the pagan neo nazi movement is growing in strength in many parts of Old Continent. It won't bring any good to anyone.
 
Grave desecration is fairly common, unfortunately. The difference here is the obvious religious component at play. A few years back the grave of Quanah Parker, for those of you who know who that is, was desecrated by people who obviously had a hatred for Native Americans. Cemetaries are usually fairly vulnerable to vandalism, as most people keep their distance out of respect, but perhaps it is time to create a new profession...cemetary security.
 
Keltoi said:
Grave desecration is fairly common, unfortunately. The difference here is the obvious religious component at play. A few years back the grave of Quanah Parker, for those of you who know who that is, was desecrated by people who obviously had a hatred for Native Americans. Cemetaries are usually fairly vulnerable to vandalism, as most people keep their distance out of respect, but perhaps it is time to create a new profession...cemetary security.
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Cherokee right? Founder of the Native American Church. Dealt heavily in Peyote.
 
@Izyan, it's a "fact" that “many Muslims" supported Nazism because the Mufti in Palestine supported the Nazis and all because some Arabs attacked the British in Baghdad?

That would actually make sense since the British had been colonizing and slaughtering Arabs in Iraq, whilst the Palestinians had lost Jerusalem at that time? You know in politics, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, kind of thing. Furthermore, many Muslims during that era couldn’t care as they were equally occupied by Italy, Britain, France and the other powers.


But that is beside the point and not why a labeled your remarks nonsensical.

It is nonsense because you can't prove that "many Muslims" were allied to Nazism. In any case, even if you have sufficient prove for your case, it has no relevance to the desecration of the graves! What is the purpose in rushing to this thread to remind people that "many Muslims were allied to Nazism"?


Imagine if some Austrian war graves had been desecrated and I replied with the remarks, “it’s a fact many Austrians were allied to Nazi Germany". What has that got to with today? Nothing! Many Germans were allied to Nazism? Again, how is that important to what happens today? Members of the Catholic Church supported Nazism. Does that mean "many Catholics were allied to Nazism"?


It's as if you’re trying to cleverly demonize Muslims, by pointing historical half truths, which were in fact related to the events of that day. Didn't many Muslims fight Nazism for Europeans, only to never really be recognized or rewarded for their efforts, i.e. those in France? Why only point out the Muslims who were supposedly allied to Nazi Germany?
 
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It was just an extreme exception, which doesnt make the rule.
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Yes and no. There was a large muslim population in Palestine, Syria, and Iraq that were Pro Nazi. They saw the Nazis as a great partner to realize their dream of Greater Syria.
 
Izyan said:
Yes and no. There was a large muslim population in Palestine, Syria, and Iraq that were Pro Nazi. They saw the Nazis as a great partner to realize their dream of Greater Syria.
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Pro-Nazis in Palestine, Syria and Iraq?! Where did you heard that from?
 
Omar_Mukhtar said:
@Izyan, it's a "fact" that “many Muslims" supported Nazism because the Mufti in Palestine supported the Nazis and all because some Arabs attacked the British in Baghdad?

That would actually make sense since the British had been colonizing and slaughtering Arabs in Iraq, whilst the Palestinians had lost Jerusalem at that time? You know in politics, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, kind of thing. Furthermore, many Muslims during that era couldn’t care as they were equally occupied by Italy, Britain, France and the other powers.


But that is beside the point and not why a labeled your remarks nonsensical.

It is nonsense because you can't prove that "many Muslims" were allied to Nazism. In any case, even if you have sufficient prove for your case, it has no relevance to the desecration of the graves! What is the purpose in rushing to this thread to remind people that "many Muslims were allied to Nazism"?


Imagine if some Austrian war graves had been desecrated and I replied with the remarks, “it’s a fact many Austrians were allied to Nazi Germany". What has that got to with today? Nothing! Many Germans were allied to Nazism? Again, how is that important to what happens today? Members of the Catholic Church supported Nazism. Does that mean "many Catholics were allied to Nazism"?


It's as if you’re trying to cleverly demonize Muslims, by pointing historical half truths, which were in fact related to the events of that day. Didn't many Muslims fight Nazism for Europeans, only to never really be recognized or rewarded for their efforts, i.e. those in France? Why only point out the Muslims who were supposedly allied to Nazi Germany?
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Have you read any of my posts before you decided to reply? I said the desecration of the graves were a disgrace. I also said that they were ignorant because muslims also fought with the Axis forces in WWII. Husyani was the Mufti of Jerusalem. Even though Palestine at the was a British Mandate they effectively had control at the time as the 1929, 36-39 revolts proved. Muslims did fight the Alies in Iraq, Egypt, and Serbia. How I know? Because my Grandfather was one of them ( a fact I'm not proud of). As for your Catholic comment, yes the Roman Catholic church has a burden to bare when it comes to Nazism and the Holocaust but aren't we talking about muslims here? By the way I'm not codemning all muslims. There were many muslims that also helped the Jews escape prosecution.
 
yes there were pro-nazi arabs, but does that mean they supported the mass extermination of jews? not really, there was NAZIS themselves even some who were close to hitler including his secretary who didnt know what was going on to the jews, such as the mass extermination.

everyone assumes that each single nazi knew of what was happening at the camps and so on, yet thats not so, so being a nazi ally at the time does not mean you were involved in jewish holocaust nor does it mean you supported it.
 
RighteousLady said:
Pro-Nazis in Palestine, Syria and Iraq?! Where did you heard that from?
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Sanctuary and Survival: The PLO in Lebanon, Westview Press, Boulder, 1990

Glenn E. Robinson, Building a Palestinian State: The Incomplete Revolution. Indiana University Press,1997 p. 6

Shaw Report

The Shaw Report, Minority Opinion by Mr.Snell p.174

Yisraeli, David The Palestine Problem in German Politics, 1889-1945 p. 310 quoted in Browning, Christopher R. (2004). The Origins of the Final Solution: The Evolution of Nazi Jewish Policy, September 1939-March 1942. University of Nebraska Press. ISBN 0803213271 p. 539.

Hall Amin Al-Husayni: The Mufti of Jerusalem. Holocaust Encyclopedia (June 25, 2007). Retrieved on 2007-10-19.

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