Fury, Threats Over Jewish Plans to Storm Al-Aqsa

[kadafi]

wether it is or it is not i understand that it will happen doesnt matter how hard we try to understand everyone but why do we have to find some barbaric solutions like war?why do we have to keep on fighting?the best people are not those who never got into an arguement but the ones who falls into one and can provide solutions for it.as far as im concern,both jews and muslims failed because they have too much pride and boast about their status and position.

What you've described in your post doesn't even reflect a small percentage of the Palestinian-Israel conflict. It's not about pride, status etc. It's more complicated then that. The conflict emerges from ethnic cleansin', a whole population forced from their lands.

Insufficient understandin' potrayed regardin' the conflict in your post akhee, perhaps it would be wise to study the origin of the conflict before you passing such "abc" solutions.

 

[yoshiyahu]

Yoshiyahu, before the jews robbed them.

Oh, where was it's capital? When was it founded? What was it's official language? What years did it exist? What was one of it's leaders names?

 

[yoshiyahu]

The Israelis idea of peace is a hoax, they abuse the word.

Change the word "Israelis" with "Palestinians", and I'll find you quite a few people who agree with that quote. Especially the families of suicide bomber victims.

How absurd, you claim to know how much parents love their children, well that's what we needed also someone to tell us that, how sweet.

Parents who use their children as human bombs don't love thier children at all.

 

[yoshiyahu]

the isrealis have no right to stop the muslims from going to friday prayers.

You're correct.

the zionists want to get rid of masjid al aqsa, we need to stop this before it gets worse.

The Jihadists want to destroy all of the Jewish Holy sites in Israel, and they've done that to many of them already.

 

[SpaceFalcon2001]

That's a wrong term to refer to the Ottoman Empire. The Kaafir and traitor Ataturk brought the fall of the Caliphate in the Islamic Empire in 1924. So thus your claim that they supported the nazi regime falls flat on the ground FURTHERMORE, despite that I despise the post-1924 of Turkey, they never entered the war in WW2 but remained neutral.

I admit I mispoke there. Britain aquired the area of palestine through the result of WWI. I was thinking of people such as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who encouraged Hitler's mass muder and asked him to come to conquer the british mandate of palestine to cleanse that area as well.

Could you please state this "chance" under a new topic? I'm quite curious concernin' this so-called repay chance that the Jews demonstrated to the Muslims. From what I've observed in reality, the only "requital" witnessed is the infamous 'ethnic cleansin'"

Israel was the chance. But As I have proven before, the modern state of Israel was not even created (only mentioned as a possability in the UN) when the bloodthirsty Arabs were already rioting in the streets in their attempts to push out both the British and the Jews.

I've already discussed this matter in my previous reply. You fail to offer evidence for this "many instances" while de facto, there was only a few instances. Not to mention that your post seems to carry the message that the Jews never carried out any aggressions.

I offered a few of many instances. You reject them because the rulers weren't "Muslim" enough for you. That's a common claim. Christians use it alot when referring to christians like hitler, the popes of the crusades, the inquisition, and other instances of christian abuse.

 

[MoonLight]

"Change the word "Israelis" with "Palestinians", and I'll find you quite a few people who agree with that quote. Especially the families of suicide bomber victims."

Isn’t that typical I have never talked to a Zionist who doesn’t divert the subject to another issue. Why should I tell them that, if those families really want that not to happen again to anyone, then I suggest they fix the problem which is the occupation; since occupation is wrong and illegal and the attacks are a reaction to that that’s how you fix it. Anyway, how do Palestinians abuse the word peace, they are not the ones who go around the world lying to everyone they want peace and go killing children, destroying houses and stealing lands.

"Parents who use their children as human bombs don't love thier children at all."

Lol sure get real, parents who sent their children in order to fight for their freedom, dignity and a chance of living do love their children more than anything but sacrifices are made for a greater cause and besides usually the children make their own decision not their parents.

By the way you didn’t answer my question, hmmm, can you even answer it?

 

[yoshiyahu]

Isn’t that typical I have never talked to a Zionist who doesn’t divert the subject to another issue.

Well, it happens to be a fact that I'm not a Zionist or an Anti-Zionist either. Like with 95% of the other issues out there, I'm a Centrist.

since occupation is wrong and illegal and the attacks are a reaction to that that’s how you fix it.

So what about the Muslim occupations of the Land? It's a well known fact that the lands were not originally Muslim, and that Muslim armies conquered Israel and the areas around it in centuries past.

Anyway, how do Palestinians abuse the word peace, they are not the ones who go around the world lying to everyone they want peace and go killing children, destroying houses and stealing lands.

Please, drop the rhetoric. I could point out as many examples of Palestinians lying, killing children, etc. as you can about Israelis.

Lol sure get real, parents who sent their children in order to fight for their freedom, dignity and a chance of living do love their children more than anything but sacrifices are made for a greater cause and besides usually the children make their own decision not their parents.

Uh-huh... yeah... Let me tell you how honorable it is to blow yourself up on a Children's schoolbus. It is people like you who support that type of murder who make me sick.

By the way you didn’t answer my question, hmmm, can you even answer it?

Since you obviously didn't get the message behind my post, let me make it clear:

Palestinians have done just as much wrong and evil as Israelis have. Stop being a hypocrit and supporting one for doing the same thing as the other does.

 

[MoonLight]

"Well, it happens to be a fact that I'm not a Zionist or an Anti-Zionist either. Like with 95% of the other issues out there, I'm a Centrist."

So do you support the existence of a nation called Israel and its actions, then to me you are a Zionist.

"So what about the Muslim occupations of the Land? It's a well known fact that the lands were not originally Muslim, and that Muslim armies conquered Israel and the areas around it in centuries past."

What Muslims occupation of land? Muslims never came into a land and kicked out the people who live on it. Instead they protected the people and helped their livelihood which is more than I can say about those occupying settlers. Anyhow they was nothing called Israel when the Muslim came into Palestine.

"Please, drop the rhetoric. I could point out as many examples of Palestinians lying, killing children, etc. as you can about Israelis."

If you mean the Palestinian government, I don’t care about them. At least if a child died and the Palestinian did it is not because they like to kill children like Israelis who imprison children and shoot them in the head when they are on school grounds and in their own homes.

"Uh-huh... yeah... Let me tell you how honorable it is to blow yourself up on a Children's schoolbus. It is people like you who support that type of murder who make me sick."

I didn’t say I support anyone who blows up a school bus, lol, don’t put words in my mouth. I support the resistance. If a mistake was made that happens. You should be ashamed of yourself you actually do support the occupation, persecution and the stealing of lands. Pfft I make you sick ;D

"Since you obviously didn't get the message behind my post, let me make it clear:

Palestinians have done just as much wrong and evil as Israelis have. Stop being a hypocrit and supporting one for doing the same thing as the other does."

What are these bad things? I don’t care about the government or what the late Yaser Arafat did. I only care about the legitimate resistance that the Palestinian people have begun.

 

[MoonLight]

Oh yeah answer my question that both you and the space keep avoiding? What does this so called Palestinian state consist off?

 

[SpaceFalcon2001]

You support the existance of a isreali state, and you even accuse palestinians of lying cheating and kiling children, when the main islamic resistanmce movement group HAMAS, has clearly stated that they have never targetted Isreali children

Again, you can't target specifically children when you send out bombers into a crowded area. They just happen to murder children. You support a number of crimes against humanity and a legitimate state for a criminal organization who act like leeches while they harvest the most idealistic children to become killers and thieves. How proud you should be.

At least if a child died and the Palestinian did it is not because they like to kill children like Israelis who imprison children and shoot them in the head when they are on school grounds and in their own homes.

So it's much better to take a pregnant woman off the streets with her children, and rape her before shooting them all in the head (Hamas)?
A terrorist should never be any safer hiding at home than if they are walking down the street to their next target.

I don’t care about the government or what the late Yaser Arafat did. I only care about the legitimate resistance that the Palestinian people have begun.

Let's get this straight: You don't care what the resistance does, you just blindly call it legitimate? Talk about hypocrisy.

 

[MoonLight]

"So it's much better to take a pregnant woman off the streets with her children, and rape her before shooting them all in the head (Hamas)?"

What are you talking about?! I never heard that, give me a source.

Shall I remind you of mascaras of the Israelis and what they did with pregnant women?

"A terrorist should never be any safer hiding at home than if they are walking down the street to their next target."

So children are terrorists according to Zionists, that’s not much of a surprise.

"Let's get this straight: You don't care what the resistance does, you just blindly call it legitimate? Talk about hypocrisy."

Indeed you need to get it straight ;D I never follow anything blindly which would not be the case with you and the Israeli government. It is legitimate because there is an occupation, it is legitimate since there is persecution, it is legitimate because their land is stolen, it is legitimate because they are being murdered, and massacred.

 

[kadafi]

I admit I mispoke there. Britain aquired the area of palestine through the result of WWI. I was thinking of people such as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who encouraged Hitler's mass muder and asked him to come to conquer the british mandate of palestine to cleanse that area as well.

Sorry for the belated reply, I guess I didn't notice this reply.

Half-truths there Spacefalcon.

Firstly, the Zionists cooperated with the Nazis prior to the cooperation of Husseini with the Germans. Furthermore, the main purpose of this [cooperation] was to hinder their support for the Zionists.

Israel was the chance. But As I have proven before, the modern state of Israel was not even created (only mentioned as a possability in the UN) when the bloodthirsty Arabs were already rioting in the streets in their attempts to push out both the British and the Jews.

Gee, one-sided reply you got there. I've stated in my previous reply that these riots were the results from the massacres commited by the Zionists. In fact, I'd be more than happy to discuss the pre-1947 of Palestine under a new topic. But unfortunaley, it has to wait a few weeks since I've other priorities lined up.

I offered a few of many instances. You reject them because the rulers weren't "Muslim" enough for you. That's a common claim. Christians use it alot when referring to christians like hitler, the popes of the crusades, the inquisition, and other instances of christian abuse.

SpaceFalcon, you do make alot of extraneous analogies. This Caliph that you seem to be mention and you only mentioned one, was not reconigzed as a Caliph during that period (deviant beliefs, under the rule of the Fatimads, etc). He persecuted muslims and non-muslims alike. However, the popes of the crusaders, the spanish inquistion (last crusade) all shared the same beliefs that Catholics share now. How does that equate to what I've mentioned about this particular caliph.