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It was their own fault they knew the risks they joined the army they went to war wasn't gonna be a picknick.*Want to blame someone blame the US goverment.

If this is the explanation for the mutilation of US/Coalition forces, then what explanation is there for the Civilian contractors that were killed, and mutilated since April 2003?

There have been at least 340 civilian (NOT MILITARY) contractors killed in Iraq since April 2003. Of these, 32 were executed/beheaded, executed/gunshot, kidnapped/murdered, or just executed. Of these 32, 11 were from Egypt, Lebanon, Pakistan or Turkey (all with Muslim sounding names). They worked in such warlike occupations such as: engineers, truckdrivers and cooks/cleaners.

What justification is there for executing these 32 civilians, more than 1/3 of whom were not "infidels" but Muslims?
 
Isaac said:
….remember the average iraqi goes through this everyday. everyday an iraqi is killed, tortured, behaeded.


It is the insurgents doing it, not the Americans.



Isaac said:
….. Inncoent iraqis are being killed and tortured by God knows who …..


By the insurgents.



Isaac said:
….well what did people expect to happen to them (US soldiers) if they were caught?


Why don’t Iraqis try to catch the insurgents?


Isaac said:
….At the end of the day, the invading forces illegally invaded Iraq…..


At the end of the day, Saddam invaded Kuwait. He lost that war and signed a case fire agreement. He broke that agreement and the war continued 9 years later.
 
and what was the root cause, the ILLEGAL occupation by usa and its allies. so like i said it hurst when its one of your own, but remember it happens everyday to the average iraqi, by murderers, wheter they are iaqis, americans britihs, it happens everyday. this is the ill of figting war without a follwoing the rules of war. hey but you dont see these iarqis who are bombed or killed, having there names read out on public news, you dont hear blair or bsuh sending there condolonces to their families after killing them. do you even know any of the names of innocent iraqis killed. see with troops they are not innocent they are legal and a respectful target. so like i said it hurts more when its one of your own. remember this happens everyday to the average iraqi, by the britsih, usa and iraqis who are gone mad in the head. and who deserve to be wiped out. i tink all the average iraqis regardless of shia or sunni should wipe out the root cause the occuyping ilegal troops. they said they would let the iraqis have freedom, bull.
 
eating oranges today, eating bullets 2morrow. did you know that the usa is the biggest supplier of ammunition to world conflicts. thre was an exceelnt report on this and it was not by a small margin either, it was like way ahead in supplying ammunition for weapons. who would have guessed otherwise. the fire starter.
 
100,000 Iraqi civilians dead, says study

Sarah Boseley, health editor
Friday October 29, 2004
The Guardian

About 100,000 Iraqi civilians - half of them women and children - have died in Iraq since the invasion, mostly as a result of airstrikes by coalition forces,[/B][/B] according to the first reliable study of the death toll from Iraqi and US public health experts.

The study, which was carried out in 33 randomly-chosen neighbourhoods of Iraq representative of the entire population, shows that violence is now the leading cause of death in Iraq. Before the invasion, most people died of heart attacks, stroke and chronic illness. The risk of a violent death is now 58 times higher than it was before the invasion.

Last night the Lancet medical journal fast-tracked the survey to publication on its website after rapid, but extensive peer review and editing because, said Lancet editor Richard Horton, "of its importance to the evolving security situation in Iraq". But the findings raised important questions also for the governments of the United Sates and Britain who, said Dr Horton in a commentary, "must have considered the likely effects of their actions for civilians".

The research was led by Les Roberts of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore. Five of the six Iraqi interviewers who went to the 988 households in the survey were doctors and all those involved in the research on the ground, says the paper, risked their lives to collect the data. Householders were asked about births and deaths in the 14.6 months before the March 2003 invasion, and births and deaths in the 17.8 months afterwards.

When death certificates were not available, there were good reasons, say the authors. "We think it is unlikely that deaths were falsely recorded. Interviewers also believed that in the Iraqi culture it was unlikely for respondents to fabricate deaths," they write.

They found an increase in infant mortality from 29 to 57 deaths per 1,000 live births, which is consistent with the pattern in wars, where women are unable or unwilling to get to hospital to deliver babies, they say. The other increase was in violent death, which was reported in 15 of the 33 clusters studied and which was mostly attributed to airstrikes.

"Despite widespread Iraqi casualties, household interview data do not show evidence of widespread wrongdoing on the part of individual soldiers on the ground," write the researchers. Only three of the 61 deaths involved coalition soldiers killing Iraqis with small arms fire. In one case, a 56-year-old man might have been a combatant, they say, in the second a 72-year-old man was shot at a checkpoint and in the third, an armed guard was mistaken for a combatant and shot during a skirmish. In the second two cases, American soldiers apologised to the families.

"The remaining 58 killings (all attributed to US forces by interviewees) were caused by helicopter gunships, rockets or other forms of aerial weaponry," they write.

The biggest death toll recorded by the researchers was in Falluja, which registered two-thirds of the violent deaths they found. "In Falluja, 23 households of 52 visited were either temporarily or permanently abandoned. Neighbours interviewed described widespread death in most of the abandoned houses but could not give adequate details for inclusion in the survey," they write.

The researchers criticise the failure of the coalition authorities to attempt to assess for themselves the scale of the civilian casualties.

"US General Tommy Franks is widely quoted as saying 'we don't do body counts'," they write, but occupying armies have responsibilities under the Geneva convention."This survey shows that with modest funds, four weeks and seven Iraqi team members willing to risk their lives, a useful measure of civilan deaths could be obtained."
 
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muzna said:
"Despite widespread Iraqi casualties, household interview data do not show evidence of widespread wrongdoing on the part of individual soldiers on the ground," write the researchers.

In one case, a 56-year-old man might have been a combatant, they say, in the second a 72-year-old man was shot at a checkpoint and in the third, an armed guard was mistaken for a combatant and shot during a skirmish. In the second two cases, American soldiers apologised to the families.

Gosh!
 
eating oranges today, eating bullets 2morrow. did you know that the usa is the biggest supplier of ammunition to world conflicts.

Just got that report in today. This one is almost as rediculous as the deal they gave to Israel: Well, we'll give you the F-16s but you have to promise us that you won't use them for military purposes. Hahahaha! So Israel wanted them for what - lawn decorations? And still, the U.S. believes it has the right to be ticked off at Iran for selling weapons? If they can dish it out - they can swallow.... hard!

Though I will say, this new Al Qaeda leader scares me. Dragged, beheaded and drawn and quartered? Was all that necessary? He's a smart one though. No internet media streams... he must know how easy it is to track an IP address to it's ISP user account via date and time of log-on and I'm sure he's figured out how lethal GPS technology can be. I did risk my butt posting that warning on my website back in May, but....

Ninth Scribe
 
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and what was the root cause, the ILLEGAL occupation by usa and its allies.... snip .... you dont hear blair or bsuh sending there condolonces to their families after killing them. do you even know any of the names of innocent iraqis killed.

I keep those records, but you're right... I do have to dig deeply for them because no one seems to care about that here.

No worries. President Bush is making the same mistake Hitler did. He's going to spread democracy in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and Korea. A four-fold free-for-all is in the making. But he's one of those religious types who thinks all this is Armegheddon and its supposed to happen.

:grumbling

Ninth Scribe
 

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