Gaddafi is dead

[Abz2000]

they're searching out people who support gaddafi and killing them:

2 hours ago

TRIPOLI — Misrata militias are carrying out revenge attacks on the displaced residents of the nearby town of Tawargha, a stronghold of Moamer Kadhafi loyalists during Libya's eight-month conflict, a rights group said on Sunday.New York-based Human Rights Watch said in a statement it had received credible reports of Misrata militias shooting unarmed Tawarghans, and of arbitrary arrests and beatings of detainees, in a few cases leading to death.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hDFTTGtIn6jYHLF4lTTm_z2t62Pg?docId=CNG.da3f6 e58764d826ac0b9ee28d0e73a75.871


New York — Militias from the city of Misrata are terrorizing the displaced residents of the nearby town of Tawergha, accusing them of having committed atrocities with Gaddafi forces in Misrata, Human Rights Watch said today. The entire town of 30,000 people is abandoned - some of it ransacked and burned - and Misrata brigade commanders say the residents of Tawergha should never return.


Monday, Oct. 31st, seven months after it started, NATO’s operation in Libya will come to an end.
It is the first time NATO has ended an operation it started.
And it comes on the heels of an historic victory for the people of Libya who, with NATO’s help,
transformed their country from an international pariah into a nation with the potential to become a productive partner with the West.


30th October 2011
A gang of Libyan looters have raided a priceless collection of gold and silver coins that are believed to date back to the time of Alexander the Great.

The thieves carried off with the pieces, known as The Treasure of Benghazi, having drilled through a concrete ceiling at the National Commercial Bank of Benghazi.
An expert has described the raid as 'one of the greatest thefts in archeological history.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2055283/Looters-Libya-seize-gold-known-The-Treasure-Benghazzi.html#ixzz1cHFs9cd0

look who's training them:

 

[جوري]

sis , Surely NATO did not kill him just because he was a bad Muslim .


pl. read his last will . Even if he was the most bad Muslim in the earth , he died with faith in one God and His last Prophet pbuh.

So , let's pray that Allah forgives his all sins and grants what is best for the Ummah.

NATO could kill their own mother if it benefited them in anyway.. they've alot to gain in displaying solidarity with the rebels like the do everywhere just to make sure what comes next isn't an Islamic state.
I have seen his last will and testament if it is his at all I have my doubts. How he & his family lived their lives surely speaks louder than posthumous words.

Either way I am not his judge nor executioner ... he has gone down the path all men will go and his judgement lies with God.. I think in lieu of crying over a man who ruled in a drunken stupor for 42 years we should focus our attention on the rise of this ummah before NATO really has their way.
Why do we constantly cry over what we've lost.. we lose our present & future in constantly living in a has-been existence!

Please loan this sadness & support to the living Muslims who need it now. Loan it so that a Muslim ummah is born of this not another western tool!

 

[Abz2000]

but it's happening as we speak sis, these muslims who do not support nato are being murdered and it's even being done in the name of Islam,
i've got a video of one group of them breaking things and the cameraman is whispering loudly "takbeer takbeer", so the mob starts saying takbeer loudly for the camera.
these were among the same lot who looted bottles of alcohol meant for foreign guests from diplomat's houses - and shared them out amongst themselves!

keep hitting the number 1 key, or scroll to 12 seconds

the nato reporters are ensuring that there's an islamic face to this coup, since firstly it appeases the middle east, and secondly they get free fighters.

remember this?

 

[جوري]

but it's happening as we speak sis, these muslims who do not support nato are being murdered and it's even being done in the name of Islam,
i've got a video of one group of them committing crimes and the cameraman is whispering loudly "takbeer takbeer", so the mob starts saying takbeer for the camera.
these were among the same lot who looted bottles of alcohol meant for foreign guests from diplomat's houses - and shared them out amongst themselves!

They're called filool.. they have them everywhere, it doesn't automatically denote that Gaddafi is a martyr or even a Muslim or that the rebels are siding with NATO.. it's merely to show dissent & confusion and I see it working. BTW they found alcohol in Gaddfi's compound amongst other things

let me know if you can stomach more

 

[جوري]

we're talking mascaras, graves upon graves. Here's a guy who should be brought back from the dead and re-killed. Hasbona Allah wa'ni3ma alwakeel.. not sure what pisses me off more, the fact that Muslims are singing his praise or that people would tolerate this torture just because it is the lesser of two evils..

Don't we want a Muslim ummah? or we want this biting oppressing forever? A will and testament of a man who had no faith in his heart before doesn't automatically erase all that took place!

he's going to the afterlife with so much crap on his hands and I don't envy him and I am not going to think of him as a martyr. Someone who drinks, doesn't govern by God's law, glamorizes a witch like condoleeza, has mass graves of Muslims, squanders their wealth on kaffir nations in my book isn't any better than what NATO is out to do!

 

[Abz2000]

even the gaddafi capture in a "rat hole" was a psy-op, remember saddam's "spider-hole"?
it looks like hillary got there after the capture of gaddafi and later decided he was too much of a risk to bring to the icc, then had him placed there for the purpose of a psy-op - "crude street justice", "we played no part".

look carefully for the nato soldier standing solemnly on guard:

nato issue hard hat

 

[جوري]

even the gaddafi capture in a "rat hole" was a psy-op, remember saddam's "spider-hole"?
it looks like hillary got there after the capture of gaddafi and later decided he was too much of a risk to bring to the icc, then had him placed there for the purpose of a psy-op - "crude street justice", "we played no part".

look carefully for the nato soldier standing solemnly on guard:

I don't care who killed him, glad he's gone. I am not condoning NATO.. what we do with his death is entirely up to us not NATO.. are we that pathetic? Khalid ibn ilwaleed took down a 300 year old powerful empire in 19 days as ONE conquest... and you're telling me 1.86 billion of us are powerless against NATO or an ailing, failing west who is two trillions in debt from two wars, interested in a third and try as it may to send its devils to various parts of the middle east can't curb their revolt, nor can they even curb on their own occupy wallstreet protests?

come on akhi, you're smarter than that.
would you feel any more threatened if he died in a drunken stupor today? what will people do after his death? surely you conceive his mortality? if he dies under whatever circumstance should we just sit there weeping even if he were a good guy? we can't move forward?
Sob7an Allah I didn't see this level of outrage over Osama or alawlqi and he's certainly not of their ranks!

 

[Tyrion]

*Sigh, I just signed on for the first time in a few weeks, and I find this thread... Although it's not unexpected to see some members saying the stuff they're saying, it's still sad.

Don't we want a Muslim ummah? or we want this biting oppressing forever?

It seems that a good number of us would rather have drama, conspiracy theories, and any excuse to hate on America, even if that means siding with a murderous tyrant.

 

[جوري]

their kind treatment to their servants:

his 'Muslim' daughter

his 'PhD' son

eloquent..

his children's Islamic lifestyle

this is while a woman is begging him for medical treatment & he turns her down in the previous vid.

his 'Green book' replacement for shari3a

in more details his brand of shari3a

his own brand of punishment from his book

assassination of Libyans for refusing to kill other Libyans

yeah the poor despot was a model Muslim.. he was martyred for shame!

 

[Salahudeen]

I think you missed this one, I don't understand arabic but someone told me he's saying the following in it.

Here is him saying the following in a video clip, some of it is not translated saying:

Fatimade Empire is the true Muslim state
Arabs are shias
Egypt is Shia
There is no khilafah
Man can marry only one, 4 wives is a lie
Muhammad does not even intercede for himself let alone intercedes for you
Salat of Istisqaa and salat of istikharah are nonsense and false

 

[جوري]

and any excuse to hate on America

I don't like America either but sometimes Allah swt aids us through the debauched and immoral. NATO did one good thing which make Libyan skies a no fly zone for any plane, so bombs wouldn't drop on the people.. of course while they were doing their own killing on the side. We should look at it objectively and see what we can have to our advantage from a situation. It isn't always so black or so white.. and I suspect that infantile thinking and complete polarity isn't serving us well at all.. War is an intelligent thought and trickery not just bang bang.

Khalid ibn ilwaleed's army was minuscule in comparison with the Roman army, he had two choices, and he chose intelligence to defeat them. Using psychological, media warfare amongst other sources is our best bet now since the despots have collectively rid us all of weaponry, proper training and a an intelligent shari3a based thought for a life of debauchery, meekness and ignorance..

We're the same people that once had even the army of Peter the Great down on his knees. Something other than unilateral thinking has to enter the foray here!

Gaddaffi is dead, and I am indeed surprised by the outpouring of sympathy.. but what next? He must have succeeded to make us believe that there can be no successors that would fare better!

best,

 

[Tyrion]

It isn't always so black or so white..

+1

If only more of us would realize that.

 

[Abz2000]

sister, i cried in my prayer for brother awlaki - and did so many times , i didn't cry once for gaddafi - but still prayed for him for the fact that he was killed not for his evil - but for standing against them and supporting palestine,

you may choose to disagree, but anyone who stands against the dajjal army are closer to me than those who support them.
and tyrion seems to love them.
he even supported yasir Qadhi when Qadhi reviled brother awlaki and called him a terrorist.
i don't worship the U.S government.

and conspiracy theories?
do you know what wmd in iraq were?
did you see "cnn live from saudi arabia"?

ever heard of a girl called nayirah al-sabah?

tyrion - please think before you libel someone with the smear "conspiracy theorist".

dajjal means deceiver -
i believe the american government is being used as the seat of antiChrist - you cannot call upon antiChrist to kill your own leader.
i have already stated that Gaddafi was against the idea of Khilafah, and i am for it so that puts us at odds,
but those whom the "rebels" worked for are the total antithesis of khilafah.

it's like dwelling on the evils of saddam when over a million iraqis are murdered in front of our eyes - this isn't just about Gaddafi, it's about the thousands of Muslims being murdered by these nato rats right now.
and we see history repeating - as with iraq - soon there'll be talk of an insurgency, and "peacekeeping" etc.
libyans were turning more and more to Islam in the past decade, now they're using psy-ops to make them oppose it by installing a fake islamic government.

i'll repeat again - i believe that those who control the u.s government is the harbinger of the antiChrist - and they've awaited his return for years.
when you see jesus here - they'll be his enemy.

Annuit Cœptis is translated by the U.S. State Department, The U.S. Mint,[SUP][7][/SUP] and the U.S. Treasury[SUP][8][/SUP] as "He (God) has favored our undertakings." (brackets in original)
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Ibn 'Omar said, "The Prophet mentioned the Dajjal (Deceiver) to the people.

He said,
"Allah is not one-eyed, but the Dajjal is blind in his right eye,
and his eye is like a bulging grape.'" (Sahih Muslim
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[جوري]

but for standing against them and supporting palestine,

Fact is no one is supporting the Palestinians!
No one is helping Muslims at all beyond their du3a and food if it gets there at all. There's only one way to help Palestinians that I can think of!
it doesn't involve food packets nor the U.N or them standing at the Gaza border begging for medical treatment or clean water!.. each one of those despots frightened for his throne, has an army and weaponry.. akhi put the pieces together of what should and could have been done..

I don't doubt for one moment your sincerity. I love you guys you're my ummah, my brothers and sisters.. I am just deeply disappointed that is all!

 

[Abz2000]

i don't doubt your sincerity either respected sister, it is natural that our points of view will differ once in a while as no two humans are the same, we can argue our viewpoints and let each other decide, (actually i think you're one of the only sincere outspoken ones on this forum even above the guys - was boring without you).

it is however a fact that gaddafi was always pro-palestinian - though he was a "secular" muslim (there's no such thing).
i put this info up before, but will repeat it again,

please scroll to 4 min 22 sec and listen for just one minute - it is very short:

15/07/2010
Tel Aviv (AsiaNews / Agencies) - Libya's Al-Alam ship, chartered by Moammar Gadhafi and led by one of his sons, docked in Egypt last night escorted by four Israeli military vessels. The aim of the expedition was to get 2 thousand tons of humanitarian aid to Gaza but the ship was unable to force the Israeli blockade and was diverted from Tel Aviv to the Egyptian port of El-Ashida....
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Israe...ypt-18938.html

12 Jul 2010 8:27 AM

Washington – The Libyan ship underway to break the Gaza naval blockade will not carry one high-profile passenger - the Libyan president’s son Saif Gaddafi - Arabic-language Ash-Sharq Al-Awsat

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi is head of the organization behind the voyage and is reportedly interested in sailing with the ship. In an effort to prevent him doing so, Libyan authorities Sunday restricted all flights that might jettison the premier’s son to join the vessel.

"Libya does not wish to intervene and believes the aid sail to Gaza conceals an adventure and a risk," one anonymous Libyan official told Al-Awsat. "Therefore, it has been decided to ban private flights. The decision is aimed at preventing Saif al-Islam and other Libyan figures from joining the ship.”

"Officially, Libya has nothing to do with the ship, and if any problem occurs it will cause an embarrassment on the international level," the official added. "Thus, we don't want any Libyan nationals on the ship, in order to prevent them from facing any danger, particularly from Israel, which has been repeating its threats to forcibly stop the ship."

......he was working in his own capacity in spite of the libyan government.
i believe this is the main reason why they targeted him and the zionists along with the pentagon were helping with disinfo and social networking - they have an army of cripples who just sit at pc's posting disinfo on news sites' comments sections and youtube videos.

TRIPOLI, Feb 13 (Reuters) - Palestinian refugees should capitalise on the wave of popular revolts in the Middle East by massing peacefully on the borders of Israel until it gives in to their demands, Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi said on Sunday.Gaddafi is respected in many parts of the Arab world for his uncompromising criticism of Israel and Arab leaders who have dealings with the Jewish state, though some people in the region dismiss his initiatives as unrealistic.


And this is from the Jewish virtual library:

Gaddafi also became a strong supporter of the Palestinian Liberation Organization which ultimately harmed Libya's relations with Egypt when in 1979 Egypt pursued a peace agreement with Israel. As Libya's relations with Egypt worsened, Gaddafi sought closer relations with the Soviet Union. Libya became the first country outside the Soviet bloc to receive the supersonic MiG-25 combat fighters, but Soviet-Libyan relations remained relatively distant. Gaddafi also sought to increase Libyan influence, especially in states with an Islamic population, by calling for the creation of a Saharan Islamic state and supporting anti-government forces in sub-Saharan Africa.


Tensions between Libya and the West reached a peak during the Ronald Reagan Administration, which tried to overthrow Gaddafi.
The Reagan administration viewed Libya as a belligerent rogue state because of its uncompromising stance on Palestinian independence,
its support for revolutionary Iran in its 1980-1988 war against Saddam Hussein's Iraq and its backing for “liberation movements” in the developing world.
Reagan himself dubbed Gaddafi the “mad dog of the Middle East.”
In March 1982 the U.S. declared a ban on the import of Libyan oil and the export to Libya of US oil industry technology; European nations did not follow suit.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/Qaddafi.html


but the cause was not lost due to the death of Abu Talib - A Non-Muslim supporter of Islam.
HasbunAllhiwani'mal Wakeek, Ni'mal Maula Wa Ni'mannaseer
A message which the "rebels" should study

 

[GuestFellow]

I find something strange. I know many Muslims that disliked Osama, Gaddafi and Sadam. Once they were killed, some felt the need to support them and defend some of the things they had done...

Can someone explain this to me? I'm confused.

 

[Abz2000]

They realised that the vilification of these people was being used as a cover to invade countries and kill millions.
And as long as people took the bait and clung onto and emphasized the comparitively minor crimes of these boogeymen, they could use it as a diversion and justification to kill millions of innocent brothers and sisters.
And even portray themselves as the saviours of the countries they loot and people they murder.

I've had pro-gaddafi stuff on my website from as soon as these events started,
Not because I believed gaddafi was the best Muslim, (I actually felt we may clash with his views in future due to his views on khilafah), but because I was looking past the distraction. I've lived in a village with my tribe and know that you do NOT allow a stranger to come and attack a tribe member - even if that member is your worst enemy,
You agree to be just and sort it out, but if the outsider takes to aggression, you get together with your tribe - no matter how internally divided, and you teach them a lesson that the whole town never forgets. That is the fiqh of dignity.

Muawiyah and Ali (ra) were enemies, but when the roman king saw the opportunity to exploit this he offered to "help" , muawiyah is reported to have sent him a message saying, "if you don't go back to your land, I will end my dispute with my brother and we will drive you out of the lands you currently occupy until the earth becomes straitened for you",
Naturally the Roman king decided there was no opportunity to grab Muslim land and he went back.

Have a listen to the story of the bull by brother awlaki again.
It has many lessons.

As long as we condemn gaddafi and leave off the relatively horrendous war crimes bush, blair, cheney, Obama and sarkozy have committed, these crooks will play the cop and a real corrupt one at that.
They used the un and icc to attack the country, then blatantly violated all aspects of the laws of these already non-credible organisations.
Peace brother

 

[sabr*]

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

the little brother syndrome. When people are indoctrinated to think they are inferior
to those who are viewed with superior power they always rally to the defense of those
who are considered the defender of their grievances no matter how corrupt,morally
deficient or not implementing Islam.

Practicing Muslims condemn not just in internet banter but are active
in community involvement against those who don't make Allah ta 'Ala word superior.

Practicing Muslims don't justify wrong or overlook directives from Allah
and Nabi Muhammad ((

) of not killing innocent women, children, elderly
and non combatants.

This is the active thought of practicing Muslims:

_____________________________

An-Nisa (The Women)

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ كُونُواْ قَوَّامِينَ بِالْقِسْطِ شُهَدَاء لِلّهِ وَلَوْ عَلَى أَنفُسِكُمْ أَوِ الْوَالِدَيْنِ
وَالأَقْرَبِينَ إِن يَكُنْ غَنِيًّا أَوْ فَقَيرًا
فَاللّهُ أَوْلَى بِهِمَا فَلاَ تَتَّبِعُواْ الْهَوَى أَن تَعْدِلُواْ وَإِن تَلْوُواْ أَوْ تُعْرِضُواْ فَإِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ خَبِيرًا (4:135)
Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo koonoo qawwameena bialqisti shuhadaa lillahi
walaw AAala anfusikum awi alwalidayni waalaqrabeena in yakun ghaniyyan aw faqeeran faAllahu awla
bihima fala tattabiAAoo alhawa an taAAdiloo wain talwoo aw tuAAridoo fainna Allaha kana bima taAAmaloona khabeeran


4:135 (Y. Ali) O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah,
even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor:
for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort
(justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well- acquainted with all that ye do.

 

[Abz2000]

Snide remarks huh?
Sarcasm start* Yeah, Obama and bush were really implementing Islam, and issuing the best of fatwas for the governance of the Islamic state*
Watch Libya disintegrate into a feudal system and corruption until we retake it once we gave established khilafah.
This is what has happened to every country the western colonialists have "liberated" so far,
You may also want to visit Afghanistan,
I could do with a key of NATO heroin.

I clearly mentioned in my post that you had to be just.......
But that you didn't let the enemy come in coz there won't be justice,
Look at guantanamo bay, these are people who gave been betrayed by their countries and people, humiliated countries that allow such a thing.

Ever heard the prayer: hasbunallahi wani'mal wakeel ?
Not - hasbu NATO wani'mal wakeel.

Little brother syndrome?
They were saying : "Oh please NATO, please stay behind"
As if to say: You've only slaughtered 30,000 of our brothers and sisters, you were more benevolent to the Iraqis and used more humanitarian bombs on them than us, that's not fair! *sarcasm end.

....
It's called putting things in perspective,
Not straining at a gnat while swallowing a camel.
Here's an excellent example gaddafi and bush are compared.

Allah clearly gives us an example of pitying things in the correct perspective,
Read the tafseer on the verses:
They ask you concerning fighting in the prohibited month....

 

[Hamza Asadullah]

Snide remarks huh?
Sarcasm start* Yeah, Obama and bush were really implementing Islam, and issuing the best of fatwas for the governance of the Islamic state*
Watch Libya disintegrate into a feudal system and corruption until we retake it once we gave established khilafah.
This is what has happened to every country the western colonialists have "liberated" so far,
You may also want to visit Afghanistan,
I could do with a key of NATO heroin.

I clearly mentioned in my post that you had to be just.......
But that you didn't let the enemy come in coz there won't be justice,
Look at guantanamo bay, these are people who gave been betrayed by their countries and people, humiliated countries that allow such a thing.

Ever heard the prayer: hasbunallahi wani'mal wakeel ?
Not - hasbu NATO wani'mal wakeel.

Little brother syndrome?
They were saying : "Oh please NATO, please stay behind"
As if to say: You've only slaughtered 30,000 of our brothers and sisters, you were more benevolent to the Iraqis and used more humanitarian bombs on them than us, that's not fair! *sarcasm end.

....
It's called putting things in perspective,
Not straining at a gnat while swallowing a camel.
Here's an excellent example gaddafi and bush are compared.

Allah clearly gives us an example of pitying things in the correct perspective,
Read the tafseer on the verses:
They ask you concerning fighting in the prohibited month....

Brother do not let his snide remarks get to you for he has made a habit of doing that for a while now. Aswell as his consistant misquoting of ayah and hadith quoting them out of context. He needs to get off his high horse.

The fact of the matter is that Nato have gained forced entry into Libya and if anyone thinks that they intervened to free the people of Libya are truly delusional.

Their entry into the front open door of Libya now gives them an opportunity to establish their military base there once again aswell as freedom to exploit Libyas resources. It gives them the opportunity they needed to establish their puppet there and to shape Libyas future to ensure it becomes another Iraq.

People used to say the same about Saddam as they are saying about Gadaffi but now people are realising that Iraq was SO much better under Sadaam. Soon people will also realise that Libya was so much better under Gaddafi. A person is only appreciated once they are gone.

So will we rejoice over the kufaar taking control of another Muslim country in order to exploit it and ensure it descends into chaos and killing? Those who want to rejoice should then rejoice!