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[The Khan]

No, you are showing how baseless your opinions are. You arn't giving any credible arguements - you don't even know any scholars. You are learning everything by yourself - hence - you are not allowed to give rulings of Islam. If you wish to, go do it on free-minds.org forum. This is an islamic forum, which only allows promotion of authentic opinions from scholars - not what you have learnt through reading websites with anyonymous writers (who btw, are progressionist muslims, they also advertise the submitters on their website, wonders why...)

When you have, real scholarly work to propose go ahead - but do not go insulting the sahih hadith collections - or make a mockery of them - because you are also making a mockery of those such as Hanifa, Malik, Shaafi etc. It won't be tolerated, I won't repeat myself. If you wan't to hold a personal opinion - so be it - but do not express it in a way where you mock consensus' of Islam, based on your highly limited (and arguably dodgy) knowledge.

I don't care if you don't want to argue, if you post stuff like that, I will not just ignore it.

Oh, I don't know...I haven't read their websites in quite a long time now. >_>

Like I said, I just pointed out what I've come across and have disagreements with. I'm just expressing my view.

Now, following scholars. I'll give a few examples why I don't want to follow them.

Qardawi -

Called for a ban on Pokémon.

Says drinking alcohol in small amounts in energy drinks is alright, but it is not alright to do so for medical purposes.

Says killing Israeli and American citizens (in Iraq), including women and children, is alright regardless of whether they belong to the military or not.

And this man is one of the most respected Sunni scholars in the world right now. :/

Then we heard of the mickey mouse fatwa by a Saudi cleric recently...

Then Zakir Naik praised Yazid, regardless of the fact that he ordered 1,000 women in Medinna to be raped and the holy Ka'aba to be destroyed. This is a historical fact.

If I had the time to dig up, I would do so. I laughed off what these scholars had to say a long time ago.

Anyway, like I said, the topic is music and video games. Not scholars. Stay on topic.

 

[barney]

Back in the land of Topic....

Does anyone else have an opinion on what the consensus would have been in the times of Prophet Muhammad if violent video games were available as a pass-time?

Are we still saying in answer to the original question that any games involving realistic killing and violence are ok for him to use?

Y'know games like Americas Army and others are used as training tools for the military.
The commandment to prepare yourselves for battle, in those days? I imagine in the 6th century they woulld have found it a useful training or preperation tool.
Well OK, not COD4 or Halo, mayby Rome :Total war Playing as the Parthians.
They could have practiced knacking the Byzantines and taking Constantinople before they took Constantinople.

 

[SixTen]

Oh, I don't know...I haven't read their websites in quite a long time now. >_>

Like I said, I just pointed out what I've come across and have disagreements with. I'm just expressing my view.

Now, following scholars. I'll give a few examples why I don't want to follow them.

Qardawi -

Called for a ban on Pokémon.

Says drinking alcohol in small amounts in energy drinks is alright, but it is not alright to do so for medical purposes.

Says killing Israeli and American citizens (in Iraq), including women and children, is alright regardless of whether they belong to the military or not.

And this man is one of the most respected Sunni scholars in the world right now. :/

Yes, that totally justifies the mockery of the sahih collection.
/sarcasm

Also, he isn't one of the most respected scholars.

(start sarcasm again)
Lets get it straight now guys. The people who wrote, the recent wikipedia articles on Islam, and those guys on free-minds, have finally shown the true Islam, all those people 1000 years ago, were deviated.

/sarcasm

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

Khan how do you sleep at night after distorting islam and speaking with no knowledge


how do you SLEEP MAN?

 

[The Khan]

I haven't. I've been unable to sleep in the past due to a distorted Islam. I'm on the path to discovering true Islam. I sleep peacefully now.

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

I think this thread has digressed more than necessary. Might I remind that this board doesn't tolerate any attacks on Islaam; mocking the hadeeth and the collections of hadeeth is equal to mocking & attacking Islaam.

Thread closed.