Gang Rape / Rape

[Souljette]

^^^ Truu say

 

[alcurad]

I have to agree. I'd also agree with the law and pray strongly for sabr (patience), because oh boy would I be furious. Yet as MaiCarInMtl said, wouldn't this lower yourself at their level too?

no it wouldn't lower you to their level,
why would it?

 

[Sahabiyaat]

interesting discussion.

to put things into perspective, lets just say, this happend to your mother,just ur mother, no ifs or buts, what would you really do?, as opposed to sitting behind this computer screen and typing out your benevolance i.e anything less than death!

If it was my mother ............omg i dont even want to think about it, i would seriously hire a hitman if the law didnt do me justice.

i think victims should be given a choice, i.e all the painful grusome options suggested i.e death, castration, imprisonment, and the person should be assessed fully as to why they did this, but the choice of punishment should lie with the victim and their family.

 

[aminahjaan]

Rape is committed by crazy idiots nasty scum of the earth losers.
I know someone who had gotten raped.
She's so messed up now, she cuts herself.
She has a blood anemia disease.
Her parents don't believe her
These rapists. uhhhghghgh
ANY TYPE OF RAPE, gang rape etc is downright disgusting and horrible.
Execute them unless they want to get raped in jail too.

 

[suffiyan007]

i had no idea about animals raping?

 

[Hamayun]

I voted life imprisonment but thats only because I haven't got the heart to kill another human being.

Saying that if (god forbid) it happened to a family member then who knows how I might react. Its easy to talk right now but only the victim knows what it is like.

 

[AmarFaisal]

I can't think of anything except wipe them off earth!

 

[barrio79]

Are you honestly trying to convince us that rapists don't know that what they're doing is wrong? If someone is screaming at the rapist to stop, and he don't, he still thinks that's completely a-ok to be doing what he's doing? Come on, no matter what kind of environment you've been raised it, if someone is yelling their lungs out, you've got to know there's something not right going on.

There were several high profile gang rapes in Sydney Australia 5 years ago , and a some community groups complained and campaigned that the sentences meted out were far too strong/harsh as it was the victims fault in these sorts of crimes .
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[Ansariyah]

They shud be beheaded.

 

[Muezzin]

There were several high profile gang rapes in Sydney Australia 5 years ago , and a some community groups complained and campaigned that the sentences meted out were far too strong/harsh as it was the victims fault in these sorts of crimes .
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Wow. Go feminism.

 

[Güven]

life sentence in the most sikk prison in the world , and then ill would leave it to Allah
but yes i would be furious ! I would atleast punish him to coma ! then to prison...

 

[youngsister]

to put things into perspective, lets just say, this happend to your mother,just ur mother, no ifs or buts, what would you really do?, as opposed to sitting behind this computer screen and typing out your benevolance i.e anything less than death!

Well said, I always tend to put myself in the person shoes, Subxanallah!

Islamically their punishment is death and is so for a reason and Allah swt knows best.

I am not even going to bother looking at it from the rapist view (unless he is mentally ill), people dont realise the affect it has on people, it ruins a person life simple as.

Personally I wouldnt even killing them myself, but of course this isnt allowed so Isha allah the islamic law would take care of it.

May Allah swt keep us safe.

 

[Güven]

well killing them directly would just make it easier , they would be straight goin to the punishment of Allah inshaAllah ,
but i think you should suffer them in this world and than the punishment in the hereafter...

 

[aamirsaab]

I firmly believe the sharia punishment for this particular crime would be most adequate. I think the act is absolutely disgusting and vile; anyone who commits this act should face dire consequences - imprisonment is not justice for the victims of these crimes; a life has been violated and justice must be done.

 

[truemuslim]

if its someone close, then i would totally just knock em out, then put em in the most disgusting/cruelest prison in the world, and I would gladly be in charge of the prison and handle the rest :Evil: oh yeh then its allahs turn

 

[Musaafirah]

Execute em..no ifs no buts..The crime they commit is sick. There's no use in trying to be all soft towards them or anything. It's the sickest crime imaginable and the no-one but the victim would be able to know what they're going through.

 

[Al-Zaara]

no it wouldn't lower you to their level,
why would it?

If you read my whole post in context, I think you'd better understand what I tried to say. These feelings and thoughts ain't easy to put into words.

It's easy to hurt someone, to hit them, to make them suffer. I could do it to someone, you could. And these rapists did that, they could do it too. Now to fight fire with fire, there are only ashes left in the end. Of course, one horrible person less, but what does this do to you? As a person, as a Muslim? Or the victim? I mean, we think by eliminating the factor that made the problems we have cleared our problems and the results of it. Not neccessarily.

I still feel life-time can also be used.

These rapists probably don't think anything horrible will happen after they die, so by hurting them there right that moment, it isn't even doing the purpose you want to. Make them suffer and stuff. Nothing of that is the same of what the victim goes through. I find it hard to say pay the same way, hurt them as much. By killing, you only give that moment of pain and then Allah. By keeping them alive, or tortuing all life-time, you give them long, life-time suffering, then Allah. It's not of course clear like this at all, but I think it's worth thinking of that side too.

I still have to agree with this, for I know my first thought would be to kill:

I would get satisfaction through killing them only if I could do it myself.

 

[sharknet]

There were several high profile gang rapes in Sydney Australia 5 years ago , and a some community groups complained and campaigned that the sentences meted out were far too strong/harsh as it was the victims fault in these sorts of crimes .
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Whats dis post mean what sorta comunity would stick up for a pack rapest

 

[abdunnur]

There is no truth low without islamic low! But we can not fallow islamic low if it no exist. We must respect low of country where we live. We have no doubt, in Future world Allah will be LOW! There is very different country about low. About rape, America (USA) is better than more others. In Europe-the biggest problem is how to make comfortable jale(prison) for man of rape and crime deeds-. In Pakistan is normal to some cruel and stupid gay attack to a woman by acid and MADE her blind and -with unhuman ugly face-, or cut her part of face...cos SHE DOESNT WANT HIM LIKE HER HUSBAND!!!!!!
For govermant and police in Pakistan it is normal?????? Pakistan is full of good muslims, i dont know what they do to try stop it.
In my country (Bosnia) persons under 18 can do all kind of crimes, low is -no exist for them. In this year,they made fire (burn) an old woma, killed child in tram,...
THEY ARE UNDER 18!?
How can i see, in America is better.
Rape is awfull things, raper become in prison more cruel, and victim will have big problems to back in normal life. Rape is destroying of being,and lot of people cant understand that prostitute woman can be raped. For us, muslims, patience is the most important. This life is short and after ....

 

[Al-Hanbali]

:salamext:

The law of Allaah (subhaanahu wa ta'aala) is clear!

What is the ruling on the crime of rape in Islam?.

Praise be to Allaah.

The Arabic word ightisaab refers to taking something wrongfully by force. It is now used exclusively to refer to transgression against the honour of women by force (rape).

This is an abhorrent crime that is forbidden in all religions and in the minds of all wise people and those who are possessed of sound human nature. All earthly systems and laws regard this action as abhorrent and impose the strictest penalties on it, except a few states which waive the punishment if the rapist marries his victim! This is indicative of a distorted mind let alone a lack of religious commitment on the part of those who challenge Allaah in making laws. We do not know of any love or compassion that could exist between the aggressor and his victim, especially since the pain of rape cannot be erased with the passage of time – as it is said. Hence many victims of rape have attempted to commit suicide and many of them have succeeded, The failure of these marriages is proven and they are accompanied by nothing but humiliation and suffering for the woman.

Islam has a clear stance which states that this repugnant action is haraam and imposes a deterrent punishment on the one who commits it.

Islam closes the door to the criminal who wants to commit this crime. Western studies have shown that most rapists are already criminals who commit their crimes under the influence of alcohol and drugs, and they take advantage of the fact that their victims are walking alone in isolated places, or staying in the house alone. These studies also show that what the criminals watch on the media and the semi-naked styles of dress in which women go out, also lead to the commission of this reprehensible crime.

The laws of Islam came to protect women's honour and modesty. Islam forbids women to wear clothes that are not modest and to travel without a mahram; it forbids a woman to shake hands with a non-mahram man. Islam encourages young men and women to marry early, and many other rulings which close the door to rape. Hence it comes as no surprise when we hear or read that most of these crimes occur in permissive societies which are looked up to by some Muslims as examples of civilization and refinement! In America – for example – International Amnesty stated in a 2004 report entitled “Stop Violence Against Women” that every 90 seconds a woman was raped during that year. What kind of life are these people living? What refinement and civilization do they want the Muslim women to take part in?

The punishment for rape in Islam is same as the punishment for zina, which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.

Some scholars also say that he is required to pay a mahr to the woman.

Imam Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

In our view the man who rapes a woman, whether she is a virgin or not, if she is a free woman he must pay a “dowry” like that of her peers, and if she is a slave he must pay whatever has been detracted from her value. The punishment is to be carried out on the rapist and there is no punishment for the woman who has been raped, whatever the case. End quote.

Al-Muwatta’, 2/734

Shaykh Salmaan al-Baaji (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

In the case of a woman who is forced (raped): if she is a free woman, the one who forced her must pay her a “dowry” like that of her peers, and the hadd punishment is to be carried out on him. This is the view of al-Shaafa’i, and it is the view of al-Layth, and it was also narrated from ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him).

Abu Haneefah and al-Thawri said: the hadd punishment is to be carried out on him but he is not obliged to pay the “dowry”.

The evidence for what we say is that the hadd punishment and the “dowry” are two rights, one of which is the right of Allaah and the other is the right of the other person. So they may be combined, as in the case of a thief whose hand is cut off and he is required to return the stolen goods. End quote.

Al-Muntaha Sharh al-Muwatta’, 5/268, 269

Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

The scholars are unanimously agreed that the rapist is to be subjected to the hadd punishment if there is clear evidence against him that he deserves the hadd punishment, or if he admits to that. Otherwise, he is to be punished (i.e., if there is no proof that the hadd punishment for zina may be carried out against him because he does not confess, and there are not four witnesses, then the judge may punish him and stipulate a punishment that will deter him and others like him). There is no punishment for the woman if it is true that he forced her and overpowered her, which may be proven by her screaming and shouting for help. End quote.

Al-Istidhkaar, 7/146

Secondly:

The rapist is subject to the hadd punishment for zina, even if the rape was not carried out at knife-point or gun-point. If the use of a weapon was threatened, then he is a muhaarib, and is to be subjected to the hadd punishment described in the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“The recompense of those who wage war against Allaah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter”

[al-Maaidah 5:33]

So the judge has the choice of the four punishments mentioned in this verse, and may choose whichever he thinks is most suitable to attain the objective, which is to spread peace and security in society, and ward off evildoers and aggressors.

And Allaah knows best

Source: http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/72338