German State Court Upholds Headscarf Ban for Teachers

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its not only in germany where there has been a similar problem also in:

Belgium
Denmark
Italy
Spain
Britain
France
and more
 
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This is so depressing! Don't they realise this is nothing short of oppression!

On one hand you have people criticising Islam by saying that Muslim women don't have rights and that they can't work and are second class or what ever, and then on the other hand you have people making the situation worse by not even letting Muslim women work if they wear a head scarf!

How are we meant to reverse the negative image of Muslim women if they can't even work without making major sacrifices?

Hijab isn't even a symbol. Sticking a cross on your hat is a symbol, wearing a crescent is a symbol, holding a banner saying "I am a Jew" is a symbol, hijab is a way of dress with a purpose, and that purpose is modesty, not symbolism!:raging:
 
I still think that schools and state (and employers overall) can set dresscodes they see fit. In workplaces there are all sorts of dresses and behaviour banned for all kind of reasons, why should this be any different?

Maybe if my religion dictated me to run around in speedos, you would support my right to teach in them?
 
It is hard for someone to give u a choice like
'either you take ur scarf off or basically u cannot go to school or university or get a job'! NOT FAIR

I mean the way people look at other muslim women who are wearing the hijab, the looks they get on the trains or bus. ever since the whole september 11th thing, mulsim women have been abbused, have been called 'murders, killers, terrorists,'!

I would not matter who ask me, i will never take off my scarf!
I will never disobey Allah swt for anyone!
 
Suomipoika said:
I still think that schools and state (and employers overall) can set dresscodes they see fit. In workplaces there are all sorts of dresses and behaviour banned for all kind of reasons, why should this be any different?
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Isn't it obvious?! Banning something like jeans or casual dress is fine because it is easily complied with! Who cares, really? We can just change into something else and we won't be sacrificing much or compromising something we believe in. We can still work, and very happily too.

But banning the head scarf is discrimination, we can't just wear something else, it means we can't work at all!

It is just so wrong, I can't believe anyone would even try to justify it.
 
Neelam92 said:
its not only in germany where there has been a similar problem also in:

Belgium
Denmark
Italy
Spain
Britain
France
and more
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Yes, there are european laws, not sharia laws, so no wonder.
 
Its strange how its okay for nuns to cover and not when muslim women do
 
Neelam92 said:
Its strange how its okay for nuns to cover and not when muslim women do
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I seriously doubt it is allowed for a nun to wear her traditional dress if she were to teach at a public school in Germany. At a Catholic school, or an Islamic school, I'm sure they are free to wear whatever they want. Not saying the ruling is the right one, but I'm fairly certain it goes for nuns as well.
 
How does one wearing a hijab harm others? It only restricts the liberty of those wearing it. The rationale for banning it is nothing short of ridiculous. May Allah guide the misguided!
 
Sister-Ameena* said:
How does one wearing a hijab harm others? It only restricts the liberty of those wearing it. The rationale for banning it is nothing short of ridiculous. May Allah guide the misguided!
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exactly ry true
thanks
 
Cognescenti said:
What is the big deal with a head scarf? It just seems a stupid thing to restrict. How does it harm anyone?

I know a Sikh ENT surgeon. He just puts his surgical hood over his head thingy (whatever that is called). Big deal.
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I agree with you.

On the other hand, the law is the law. If any of our German members are dissatisfied with the ruling, the best thing would be to contact their local politician about the matter, in an effort to change the law. If such initiatives prove unsuccessful, the only other practical options are to either live with such rulings, or move to a different country.
 
Malaikah said:
Isn't it obvious?! Banning something like jeans or casual dress is fine because it is easily complied with! Who cares, really? We can just change into something else and we won't be sacrificing much or compromising something we believe in. We can still work, and very happily too.
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Just because its not big deal to you, it might be big deal to someone else, if we let you to dress how you wish based on your wolrdview, shouldnt we have to allow the same to everyone? There is actually so many subcultures that have to sacrifice their way of dressing up in workplaces and schools. I think it is and would be really unfair and discriminating to allow some people bend the rules because of their religion.

I want my values on equal ground just as protected and priviliged as religions.

But banning the head scarf is discrimination, we can't just wear something else, it means we can't work at all!
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You could work, but you choose that your way of life is more important than having work.
 
Even tho the whole covering face thing (niqab) is banned in the UK but i still see women wearing it...and yeh people to sare but they dont seem to care
 
Suomipoika said:
Just because its not big deal to you, it might be big deal to someone else, if we let you to dress how you wish based on your wolrdview, shouldnt we have to allow the same to everyone? There is actually so many subcultures that have to sacrifice their way of dressing up in workplaces and schools. I think it is and would be really unfair and discriminating to allow some people bend the rules because of their religion.
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then the only way around it is to create completely independant workplaces schools etc etc, this will create a huge rift in society. There are tons of muslims so its not an impossible thing to achieve.

but the question is do you want to hit the already economically flawed society with another hammer? or can you just allow us to follow our religion (NOT CULTURE REALISE THE DIFFERENCE) religioN !
 
Neelam92 said:
Even tho the whole covering face thing (niqab) is banned in the UK but i still see women wearing it...and yeh people to sare but they dont seem to care
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lol sis where did u get that froM? since when is it banned? my sister wears it everyday and she walks by a lotta police officers too :D
 
IbnAbdulHakim said:
lol sis where did u get that froM? since when is it banned? my sister wears it everyday and she walks by a lotta police officers too :D
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sory i meant in schools like teachers are not allowed to wear the niqab
 
IbnAbdulHakim said:
then the only way around it is to create completely independant workplaces schools etc etc, this will create a huge rift in society. There are tons of muslims so its not an impossible thing to achieve.

but the question is do you want to hit the already economically flawed society with another hammer? or can you just allow us to follow our religion (NOT CULTURE REALISE THE DIFFERENCE) religioN !
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I want same rules for everyone. Why would something you value as the right way of life be exempt from rules over something which I value, just because what you value is based on religion?
 
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