Getting involved in Christmas as a Muslim - Islam Veiwpoint

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http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/muslims_in_east_end_hold_xmas_party_for_their_christian_neighbours_1_1748173

The local authority’s housing wing, Tower Hamlets Homes, asked families on housing estates in Bethnal Green and Wapping to help organise parties to improve interfaith understanding.

Groups run by non-Muslims organised three Eid parties earlier this year, with residents from all backgrounds joining in.

Muslim groups returned the invitation this week with Christmas celebrations, when the Dorset Community Association in Wapping held a joint event with Bethnal Green’s Columbia Tenants’ Association.

Youth worker Angela Brown, who held the shindig in Wapping, said: “We had 200 children and their families joining Santa which made it a Christmas to remember.”

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^ Whatever floats their boat really...all i know is the sweetest thing I've nibbled on is smoked turkey breast.

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ruling on Celebrating Non-Muslim Festivities

Two festivities of the People of the Book are looming these days, i.e Christmas and the New Year. We have become used to those festivities being celebrated in companies, organisations, societies, etc. We are also used to some Muslims participating, joining, and attending these gross events of falsehood, behaving in a way not befitting those who belong to this magnificent religion. It is for this reason that we want to write these words as a reminder for the Muslims. The question is: how should the Muslims act during such occassions?


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The answer, in Ibn Taymiyah’s words, is that nothing should be done at all. This means that we, as Muslims, should not do anything we do not usually do on such days. It should be just another day with nothing special about it, as if they (People of the Book) are not celebrating. In this way Muslims make themselves different.
Allah (s.w.t.) has indicated to us the hostility of the infidels in many verses, including: "Verily, the disbeleivers are ever unto you open enemies" [4: 101]. Allah (s.w.t.) also called them the party of Satan and Satan’s allies, etc.


The Prophet (s.a.w) said: ‘You will follow the ways of those nations who were before you, span by span and cubit by cubit (i.e., inch by inch) so much so that even if they entered a hole of a lizard, you would follow them.’ We said, ‘O Allah's Apostle! (Do you mean) the Jews and the Christians?’ He said, ‘Whom else?’


Joining the People of the Book in their festivities is more, or at least as forbidden, as joining idolaters other than the People of the Book. No one should argue that it is only the idolaters who are meant and that the People of the Book have common grounds with Muslims that are not applicable to others.


Shaikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyah has proved the prohibition of celebrating the Christmas, Persian festivities such as Neyrouz, Jewish festivities and festivities of others as well, by stating that they all come under the same ruling. Since we should not imitate them in festivities, Muslims who do this must be forbidden from doing so, let alone approve and support them. We should not answer invitations from Muslims who invite us specifically on such occasions. If a Muslim holds an unusual celebration that coincides with one of the People of the Book’s festivities we do not have to answer the invitation although otherwise a Muslim should answer an invitation from a fellow Muslim as in the Prophet’s tradition.


Shaikhul Islam states details on issues related to the time and space dimensions of the festivities. He, for example, says: "And a Muslim should not sell food, clothes, or other items that encourage Muslims to be similar to the People of the Book in their festivities." From this we understand that if selling such items is forbidden, then selling cards that have a picture of a cross or church for greeting and congratulation of the festivity is also forbidden, let alone joining and being involved in this gross falsehood. Prohibition extends also to everything related to the festivity, eg, congratulating, offering gifts, food, etc., since the festivity includes those and many other concepts.


Ibn Taymiyah quoted the evidence on celebrating the infidel’s festivities. The first evidence is that Allah (s.w.t.) forbade us to imitate the infidels or be their allies. The issue comes under loyalty, which is part of the faith itself. Believing and accepting their feasts would be confirming their faith. Rejecting it is required, as rejecting any other faith the infidels may adhere to, as Allah (s.w.t.) indicated: "O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as allies". [5: 51]. Attending their festivities implies being allies to them, and accepting the festivities as being Muslim festivities. In this way the festivities of Satan’s party and associates become festivities for Allah’s party and associates which contradicts the evidence, let alone the instinctive rejection of disagreement Allah built in everyone.


The detailed evidence from the Book of Allah includes Allah’s description of the believers, whom He calls "Worshippers of the Most Gracious", saying: "And those who do not witness falsehood and if they pass by "Laghow" (evil play or evil talk) they pass by it with dignity". [25: 72]. The scholars and interpreters of Al-Quran quoted Mujahed, Ad-Dhahak, Ikrimah and others that Laghow means festivities of the idolaters, ie, "Worshippers of the Most Gracious" do not attend festivities of the idolaters.


The Tradition contains numerous Hadiths including; Anas (r.a.a) said: Rasulullah (s.a.w) arrived to Al-Madinah when its citizens had two days as festivities (The Arabs had two days of festivities in pre-Islamic time). The Prophet (s.a.w) said: "What are those two days?" They said: "We used to celebrate them in pre-Islamic time." He said: "Allah has offered you two better alternative days, viz, Day of Al-Adha and Day of Fitr". [Abu Dawood].

The implication of this Hadith is that Rasulullah (s.a.w) did not approve those two pre-Islamic festivities and did not allow them to celebrate them and insisted on alternative festivities.


The second Hadith by Thabet Ibn Al-Dhahalah (r.a.a) said: A man during the time of the Prophet (s.a.w) made a vow to God to slaughter camels at "Bawatah". The Prophet asked: Was there an idol of the pre-Islamic idols? He said: No. The Prophet said: Was there any of their festivities? He said: No. The Prophet said: Then carry out your vow. There should be no vows implying disobedience to Allah nor in what one has no power to do it.". [Bukhari and Muslim].

After quoting this Hadith, Shaikhul Islam said: "The implication in this Hadith is that slaughtering in a place of their festivities or idols is an act of disobedience to Allah (s.w.t.)".


We also understand from the Hadith that the Prophet’s prohibition was on account of the place being one of celebration. When it was not, there was no prohibition. This indicates the condition on the place remains.

http://www.kalamullah.com/fatwa22.html

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About article,Just like there are non-practicing and ignorant Christians in Christianity(like those who consider Muhammad(PBUH) as false prophet and stuff,Aaodubillah),so is in Islam we have this kind of Muslims too who don't know much.I am sure if its not 25,your Muslim friends can give you a visit on 26th or 27th of December for party,if It doesn't harm you or them.Being respectful to each other is also we are taught by the Islam.Hope you can understand.

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Christmas is Pagan.

Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus Christ.
 
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MashaaAllaah, Quite a lot of replies, questions, confusion and misconceptions....I dont know if i can answer all of them in one go. I hope I cover everyone's queries:


1. The term 'Eid refers to a celebration which recurs [e.g. yearly]
2. This type of recurring celebration is considered to be an act of worship in Islaam and the Prophet [saw] said that each nation has its OWN 'Eid - which indicates that each nation is known by their own festivals
3. The Prophet [saw] said that we have our 2Eids - since Eid is an act of worship and the number given is explicit, our approach as Muslims is to limit ourselves to what is mentioned in the text [unless of course there are other evidences to indicate otherwise]. This approach is the reason why we pray 5 times a day - we cannot increase this number nor decrease it and same with the Eid being 2. These types of rules are known in Usool ul-fiqh as 'Tawqeefiyyah'.

4. From the above, ALL forms of recurring celebrations are forbidden, not just Christmas. Bcos we have only 2 Eid sanctioned by Islaam, it is forbidden to celebrate christmas, easter, mothers day, valentines day and even birthdays [and the associated evil with each one, if it exists, only makes the forbidden weightier].
With the birthdays, it includes our own birthday, our childrens, parents and even the birthday of our Prophets [pbut]. Hence, the idea of celebrating 'Isa [as] birthday is still Haraam even if 25th december has become a culturing thing or had nothing to do with christianity etc [and besides, as mentioned already, 25th dec is not even a confirmed date of 'Isa [as] birthday.]

5. There were other questions which i felt was asked due to not listening to the video maybe... if you have listened and your question is not answered than please do ask again and someone here can clarify bi'izhnillaah
 
another thing id like to add:

When we get invited for food or someone wishes us etc, we should take it as a opportunity to give them Da'wah. Rememeber Da'wah is not about telling people off or just telling them that they are wrong, it is an act of mercy as it involves explanation and clarification about Allaah and His Messengers and His Deen and it will aid a person to become a better person and inshaaAllaah attain Jannah.

So when a Christian invites us to get involved in Christmas, take the chance to explain to them why its not right to celebrate Christmas instead of approving to it and invite them to Islaam
 
Did I ever attend in Christmas celebration?. If this celebration means event that related to worship like pray, sing Christmas song, ... no, no, I never attended, and I always avoid it.

I always came after they finished their own celebration and start the Open House which they receive guests that not only from Christian community. Usually in Dec 25 afternoon, or Dec 26 or 27. Depend on who I visited first.

But I think this year I cannot visit them. Need few hours only to visit one family, while my wife now is in illness and I cannot leave her.
 
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according to the current Nazi Pope:
You can call him Pope Benedict XVI, or just Pope. But you don't need to insult him. Imagine if Catholic people call our Shaykhs as terrorist leaders.

So when a Christian invites us to get involved in Christmas, take the chance to explain to them why its not right to celebrate Christmas instead of approving to it and invite them to Islaam
Just tell this Christian that you cannot come. You don't need to talk about Christmas like this to him. Let other people believe their belief.
 
Assalamu alaikum fellow Muslims!

SOmetimes, life's situations are not always black and white. Before reverting to Islam, I knew that Christmas is a pagan holiday, but I celebrated it! It began as a religious celebration, but has spiraled off into this big monster of greed and gluttony. Anywhoo, I never liked Christmas because I was that one kid who's parents could not always afford lavish gifts and I had to suffer and watch all the other neighborhood kids play with all of their nice things (bikes, barbies, hot wheels, game systems) while I may have only gotten coloring books or puzzles. Worse yet, I lied about what "Santa" brought me because the teachers would always make us stand up in class and tell the class how great of a time we had during the holidays.

Back on topic, Christmas invades my life and there isn't much I can do about it but pray that Allah eventually remove these elements in due time. My household is 50% Christian, 50% Muslim. My mother, who is Christian HAS to put up the CHristmas tree, lights and decorations, and HAS to make pork filled dishes that me and hubby can't eat. We have discussions that sometimes blowup into arguments about some things because my mother does not understand (and at her age, refuses to understand) that something she's blindly celebrated for soo long is just haram to us and we want no part in it. I can't change her on my own, so I try to deal with it. Does it stress me out? yes, but what can I do? I'm not going to disrespect or shun my mother or my family because they have a different belief system.

People around me at work always say, "merry Christmas" or Happy Holidays to me, knowing full well that I do not celebrate Christmas. I respond "Enjoy your Holiday" and continue on with my life.

Old lades in their eighties give me Daily devotional (christian) books and Jehovah's witnesses bang on my door on a Saturday morning and sometimes even shove their book through my front door :raging:. I politely deal with them. I pray for Patience and guidance from Allah SWT.

Sometimes, I feel as if I am in the belly of the beast. These things make me hold ever so tightly to becoming the best Muslim that I can possibly be. It makes me happily give Salat five times a day and read surahs from the Quaran because I have to be prepared for the craziness, and yet not offend or turn another human off from Islam because I want to be mean or offend them like they offend me. I see every person as a potential revert and they must be treated with love and care as our Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was commanded by Allah (SWT) through Gabriel to Read Read read. We Muslims must be careful not to offend or scorn others or they will close their minds to us and never consider Islam.

Honestly, I have many people (mainly Christians) who come to me, asking for prayer, how to pray, asking for an Islamic point of view, asking how to get closer to God, for guidance, etc. These are opportunities for me, insh'Allah to open their hearts to Allah (SWT)and Islam because Allah (SWT) MAKES MUSLIMS. Some of us are born into Islam, but some of us WANT to be MUSLIMS and Allah SWT Blesses us to become Muslims.

So, I say, let them have their pagan holidays for now. Surely Allah (SWT) has the power to change these things.
 
My mother, who is Christian HAS to put up the CHristmas tree, lights and decorations, and HAS to make pork filled dishes that me and hubby can't eat.
Why does your mum HAVE to make pork dishes?
If I had Muslims staying with me (for Christmas or otherwise), I would try to avoid cooking pork ...
 
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I thought today you are so busy in preparing Christmas celebration. :)
 
Just tell this Christian that you cannot come. You don't need to talk about Christmas like this to him. Let other people believe their belief.


Yes you are right, we dont have to say it in the way i mentioned. However, you are also completely wrong... having a 'let other people believe their belief' is not a mentality sanctioned by Islaam - it is quite the opposite and sort of undermines any Da'wah work.

Dawah is an obligation. Its aim is to bring people to the belief system and way of life of Islaam [but obviously it should be done according to the Sunnah]. We make the effort while the result is in Allaah's Hands as He is the one who changes peoples hearts. So we should never have a 'live and let live' attitude, otherwise nobody is going to be there to stop people from walking into Hell Fire....
 
I saw this posted on another forum. What's wrong with celebrating the birth of Jesus (pbuh) as a prophet anyways?

We are not to celebrate the birth of anyone. Not even the birth of Muhammad(PBUH) although many do.
 
We are not to celebrate the birth of anyone. Not even the birth of Muhammad(PBUH) although many do.

I should have clarified, it usually is not considered a sin if one does celebrate it.

This may clarify better HERE
 
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I want to begin by saying that Islam is perfect and it is the only religion that Allah approves of as He says: "This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion." (Qur'an 5:3)

Islam being the only religion with Allah means that all other religions and what is connected to them are rejected by Him, even if a form of their acceptance is granted by Him (such as accepting Jews and Christians as the people of the book).

So regarding Christmas: we are not to celebrate it, partake in it or have anything to do with it in any way or form. This is not intended to insult any non-Muslims but for Muslims to be living examples of the people who venerate the name of Allah, the Most High, at all times and in all places through obedience to Allah.

An "Eid" or festival in Islam is any celebration that returns after a while, whether it's something daily,weekly, monthly or yearly, something that returns and is celebrated. All forms of such an Eid are forbidden except for 'Eid al-Adha and Eid al-Fitr simply because of what the Messenger :saws1: said.

This is proven in a hadeeth in saheeh Muslim where the Prophet :saws1: said that "Allah has replaced it with that which is better: the two Eids [of Fitr and Adha]".

This implies that all forms of returning celebrations, whether these are birthdays, anniversaries or anything of a similar kind are forbidden in Islam. Celebrations that are connected with any other religion are even moreso forbidden because by Muslims partaking in them shows an approval of them. "Partaking" is defined as doing things like giving Christmas cards, wishing marry Christmas or attending their feasts (or anything else). A Muslim is required to decline them because any kind of positive gesture towards religiously connected festival shows a form of approval of a religion besides Islam. And Allah says about this, "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam never will It be accepted of Him." (Qur'an 3:85)

A Muslim is therefore required to decline all non-Muslim celebrations and festivals, but this should not deter a Muslim from displaying a righteous character through kindness, forbearance and humbleness. A Muslim should be confident, strong and forthright with regards to His religion and His Lord and should not lower himself to please the creation – lest Allah becomes displeased with you and causes the creation to be displeased with you.
 
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I know there are some Muslims like myself who have good relations with their neighbours, and on Eid days, these neighbours who are Christian will often knock on our doors and gift us an "Eid Mubarak" with a greeting card...

...Is it not common courtesy to respond back with the same? I'm a little confuddled on this matter. Can someone clarify?
 
why not just a courteous 'Enjoy your holidays' - that way you don't acknowledge what it is and the 'your' makes it non-personal. It is what I personally do.

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true, but still, they went out of the way to wish us a Happy Eid,

Ofcourse, there are things we can say that do not wish a happy Christmas outright, things like "happy holidays" "don't get too drunk" "I know you'll be enjoying your festiivities then dieting for the whole of January" etc. etc,

but hardly any of that seems as nice as "Merry Christmas" - my intention in wishing them a merry xmas is to show the common courtesy that exists between good neighbours. Like for like.

And I do not see that as negating my Islam, but a part of my Islam. I do not partake in their activities, I do not celebrate with them - but I can be courteous - and that is my intention.

I guess the real question should be, "Does intention outweigh the action in Allahs esteem?"
 

Why does you mum HAVE to make pork dishes?
If I had Muslims staying with me (for Christmas or otherwise), I would try to avoid cooking pork ...

That's you, being a sensible and thoughtful person. You know full well that most Christians simply do not care to accomodate a Muslim--especially Bible-Belt Southern Christians.
She's an older, Southern Christian woman who has been making the same dishes for years. She's not going to stop for my sake. We'd discussed substituting the pork for beef or lamb, but to no avail. So, to keep the conlficts to a minimum, we just avoid the pork dishes. Simple.
 
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