God did not sacrifice Jesus

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Christians claim Jesus was God in flesh and died for our Sins,

The funny thing is he blamed God for abandoning him, leaving him in the lurch according to the Bible,

Lol
 
He was man fully of the will of God, and predestined as such. He should be likened to Moses or Elias. He taught that sacrifice of self and own direction to follow the direction of God was the only form of sacrifice acceptable. How can you sacrifice an innocent thing for your sins? You cannot. Jesus of Christ showed the way to unity and salvation wholly under God, and taught the manner of which holy men are to live. Not for show, or reward, but for the sake of existence as a whole, under God.

Many Christians feel very strongly that Jesus was literally God in the flesh. To say that he was is difficult for me at times. To say that he was not limits what God can do. Since we cannot clearly perceive any limit to the will of God, to say otherwise just doesn't seem right to me.

Unfortunately, the majority of Christians are confuse on quite a few things due to greed and curruot doctrine. The scripture, much like that of the Quran, is pure and obviouse in its directions, man through time and greed have lead many of the path. We will unite under God peaceably for the sake of man.

no offence

Peace,
All praise, and thanks is to GOD.
 
This Christian got a taste of his medicine, when I reminded him, when Jesus pooped himself,

Are you saying "God" pooped?

نعوذ بالله من ذلك

He got all flustered and said I was blaspheming,

Lol,

He's the one telling me Jesus is God in the flesh,

نعوذ بالله من ذلك
 
:salam:

:jz: for sharing.

I see one flaw in the first part of the video. It defines sacrifice, as to give up something you want to keep in order to get or do something else. And the rest of that part is based around that premise, that you sacrifice to get a reward, or something in return. Lets say an atheist sacrifices some of their wealth to help a poor person. Or sacrifices their time to help at an orphanage. They don't believe in God, so aren't expecting to get anything for it or to get any reward. Therefore, if the definition of sacrifice isn't quite right, or actually is wider than that, then the argument made on that point using the limited definition in the video, can't stand strongly, ie the question is asked in the video, was God expecting a reward from Himself?
 
This one here was an eye opener for me. It was especially striking to me how Evangelists influenced Muslims believes, that now many Muslims make a distinction between prophets and think of Jesus as the savior.

muslimjesus.org/misconception-resurrection-or-ascension/
 
We are all to sacrifice ourselves(greed, and if need be life) for the will of God and the sake of existence.

Peace
 
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popsthebuilder said:
Many Christians feel very strongly that Jesus was literally God in the flesh. To say that he was is difficult for me at times. To say that he was not limits what God can do. Since we cannot clearly perceive any limit to the will of God, to say otherwise just doesn't seem right to me.
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Why would Jesus not being God be regarded as as 'limiting' what God can do?

Why do we have to try define with our limited understanding of what is God's powers from the position of Jesus and his miracle birth? God already created man from clay and his companion, Eve, from his rib. Nothing impossible for God to create another man without a father.

:peace:
 
popsthebuilder said:
He was man fully of the will of God, and predestined as such. He should be likened to Moses or Elias. He taught that sacrifice of self and own direction to follow the direction of God was the only form of sacrifice acceptable. How can you sacrifice an innocent thing for your sins? You cannot. Jesus of Christ showed the way to unity and salvation wholly under God, and taught the manner of which holy men are to live. Not for show, or reward, but for the sake of existence as a whole, under God.

Many Christians feel very strongly that Jesus was literally God in the flesh. To say that he was is difficult for me at times. To say that he was not limits what God can do. Since we cannot clearly perceive any limit to the will of God, to say otherwise just doesn't seem right to me.

Unfortunately, the majority of Christians are confuse on quite a few things due to greed and curruot doctrine. The scripture, much like that of the Quran, is pure and obviouse in its directions, man through time and greed have lead many of the path. We will unite under God peaceably for the sake of man.

no offence

Peace,
All praise, and thanks is to GOD.
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If God has to become part of his own creation and allow the very things he created to kill him, that in itself seems pretty limiting to God's capabilities, I would think.
 
Stupid Christian "Logic"

God is Uncreated

Man is Created

They are opposites,

Christians just don't seem to get the absurdities of trying apply opposite natures to God All-mighty,

The presence of one negates the other.

Alhumdulillah, Allah tala saved us
from this Shirk,
 
Salam brother. We should be careful with the words we are using about other religions.
 
There's stuff in the Bible which is beyond stupidity,

Insane would probably be more appropriate
 
For God to became man, God would no longer be God, because becoming creation, negates the creator.

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_light]The power of Allaah – which is undoubtedly absolute and unlimited – is connected to things that are rationally possible, not things that are rationally impossible. No matter how absolute and limitless His power, it must still remain within the bounds of possibility, and it is not connected to irrationalities. This is not a limitation of it. In order to clarify this point we will give some examples: [/FONT][FONT=wf_segoe-ui_light]We ask all of these bishops and theologians: Can God create another god like Him? If they say yes, we say to them: How can this created being be a god if he is created? How can he be like God when he has a beginning, whereas God exists from eternity? In fact the phrase “creating a god” is a sophism or false argument, and is a contradiction in terms, because the mere fact that something is created means that it cannot be a god. This question is like asking could God create “a god who is not a god”? it is self-evident that the answer can only be: The power of Allaah has nothing to do with that, because the idea that something can be a god and not a god is illogical and is irrational, and the power of Allaah has nothing to do with irrationalities.

[/FONT]And May Allah forgive me if I said any wrong. Ameen.

Read this:

https://islamqa.info/en/39679

Read Al-Ikhlas..

God does not beget, nor is He begotten, nor is there to Him any equivalent.
 
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