Got my butt handed to me in debate about gays

I meant to imply that it's hard to accept the gay culture being part of the world, and I didn't realise that, if I'm correct in this, Islam is against homosexuals.


i want you to think about the veeery first time you thought about man on man action - how did you feel?


if you cant recall that far back, then no need to answer :)
 
i want you to think about the veeery first time you thought about man on man action - how did you feel?


if you cant recall that far back, then no need to answer :)

That would be before puberty, and truthfully, I didn't think anything of it.
I thought it just as gross as a man on woman action, such is the immaturity of children. :D
 
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Those who claim that homosexuality is right, their reasoning is that these people should have the freedom to have a relationship which they desire without anyone restricting their rights.


Now, if people use that as the basis of argument - then they need to question whether it is okay for a brother and sister to commit incest? If they love each other? Why is it still illegal in many parts of the US whereas homosexuality isn't?

If they still agree with that, then they should know that this is immoral, not just because they are having sex with their own family members, but because their children are likely to be affected a great deal by this, since having sex within closer relatives poses more of a threat of genetic diseases.


If the person still believes that they should be allowed to do that, then is it also moral to have sex with ones mother or father? If they both are mature and fit for it, willing to do it?

If someone says that this is moral, then who will their children be? Will they be sons/daughters? What will their child be to them? It can't be a son/daughter, nor can it be a brother/sister - so who is this child to them?


Is this really moral?



How about having sex with an animal, is this moral? Some may argue that animals cannot consent for sex, but what if an animal makes the first move and approaches the person sexually, is it moral then to have sex with that animal?




If the person is still going to play along and think that this is moral, is it moral to have sex with ones partner, and after having intercourse with them - you kill them and then eat them. Is this moral, if both parties had consented to it?

Since people like comparing themselves to animals so much (because some animals may do this act), i'd love to hear a response to this - especially the last one (since fishing spiders * eat their mates after mating.)


*http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/mg18625005.800-female-spiders-try-eating-mate-even-before-sex.html





Some people argue that homosexuals should be allowed to adopt children, this isn't fair and it is immoral. The main reason is because it causes Psychological issues for the child - a person without a father is more likely to have psychological difficulties, aswell as a person lacking a mother. This is why homosexuals adopting children will not ease the child's situation. Rather, a child requires a mother and a father to have a good balance, the caring treatment of a mother, and a role model figure as a father. If this is lacking - the child may have psychological difficulties


american studies and research to prove this [high suicide rates, high crime rates etc]
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1157307969275&pagename=Zone-English-Family%2FFYELayout


If one was to respond that it is better for a child to be adopted by a homosexual couple instead of remaining in an orphanage, then the response to this is that another harm should not be caused because of a previous harm.

Rather, it should be encouraged for a couple (husband and wife) to foster children whose parents may be unknown. However, it should not be done through a harmful method.


might be benficial;
http://www.islamicboard.com/general/41183-homosexuality-2.html#post719687
 
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oh, and when some people say the 'homosexual gene' is supported by scientific research, there is also scientific research/studies to support the argument that being homosexual is just based on environmental factors and not really a 'homosexual gene'.
 

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