Gul is the new President of Turkiye,,,finally!

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sumeyye said:
by 'observant' i take that u mean 'practicing'...well..this topic is debated quite a bit. i know that in islam you should not enter an envirnment which hosts intoxicated peoples or alcoholic beverages...however..if the situation is vital and you must attent..keeping to the observation that you not consume any alcohol...im pretty sure one would be fine...

such is the case with the 'observant' diplomats at the eu functions...

hope that answers your question...

peace.
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I agree with you, i think in these cases when you need to attend then its ok, but Allah (SWT) knows best. I watched the military ceromony Yesterday.....boy was it tense. I wish i could listen to the generals thoughts.:D
 
Cognescenti said:
That is an interesting point. What would happen if Turkey were admitted to the EU and a European host country served wine or champagne at a reception for diplomats?
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u r speaking as if u r a so-called seculars in turkey..:) ı mean little idea of litle man..
 
abdil han said:
salam sister,
i can say that he will not try to settle an islamic system(i mean the government) be coz its not that easy to make it in Turkiye,many people got used to this secular democracy,,,
Gül is a practising,traditional,turkmen origin person,he grew up in a conservative family in the inner side of country,he looks like that he is a good muslim,trying to make everybody happy,,not lying,n enough calm...

but i can say that they will try(Gül n government) to make hijab free n some changes in educational system,,,
and they will keep working to be a member of EU,but the point is they know that Turkiye will keep its powerfull,fast-increasing economy n this will help them to challenge with EU...

i hope i could help you...
wassalam
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well said kardes...

i would just like to add that with Gul as president, the AK party will be able to keep going from where they had left...they will keep adding to the positives they had begun last democartic season. there is no need for a new party to begin from scratch...

do that means that it can only be uphill for turkey from here...

the progression will hopefully be shadowed in the EU...whether it is a good thing or bad thing...thats debated...i personally believe that Turkey entering the EU is a good thing..and i have stated why many times on this forum and will not repeat them unless i am asked.

that is all...
peace.
 
yigiter187 said:
yes dont worry bro..that ban will be end in one year...enemy of islams in turkey should find another country that they can feed themselves there..:D
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So much hostility. That does not bode well for social peace in Turkey.

Using words like "enemy" seems to imply the need for drastic action to eradicate them. Judging from recent 'secularist' demonstrations in Turkey, the feeling appears to be mutual.
 
KAding said:
Gul as the new Caliph! Good plan. I'd support him! :D
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u misunderstood the term "enemy of islam" although ı explained it...look..u r an athesit,ı will respect u whether u believe or not,whether u believe this or taht god,but if u attack my religion,ıf u do utmost effort to stop islamic acts,if u swear my religion ,u become "enemy of islam"...got it ?
peace
 
north_malaysian said:
He's a Turkmen as those in Turkmenistan?
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salam bro,
it depends...
our origin (i mean turkiye turks) is central asia and we call there as ''turkistan'', but we moved to anatolia about a thousand year ago ,so almost every turk has a central asian root in here,and the ottomans are from oguz turks who used to live in turkmenistan's lands now,,
so turkmens n turkiye turks have the same root,now we have little different looking from them but this is just becoz of the land we ve been living for 1000 years,,,,

i hope u got it:)
 
north_malaysian said:
and saved costs......:thumbs_up

"Okay.. the Muslims are coming ... so cancel one box of champagne and replace it with mineral water."

"and yeah... they cant eat our food.. so just serve them salads."
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and healthier too...

why not the leaders show good examples to the people.
 
yigiter187 said:
u misunderstood the term "enemy of islam" although ı explained it...look..u r an athesit,ı will respect u whether u believe or not,whether u believe this or taht god,but if u attack my religion,ıf u do utmost effort to stop islamic acts,if u swear my religion ,u become "enemy of islam"...got it ?
peace
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Yes, I think I got it. Thats why I posted in the first placed. It is sad that there are such major divisions in Turkish society, where half of the country appears to consider the other half 'the enemy'. This is unlike for example my country, where political divisions are much less profound. The divisions in Turkey appear very fundamental, about the order of the state and the constitution (Islamic vs secular state). In contrast in other European countries there is generally consensus about this.

I just hope Turkish institutions are strong enough to prevent serious conflict when there are deep cleavages.
 

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