Halaal and Haraam foods
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Allow me to explain czgibson. Gelatine is derived from animal fat. If the animal is not halaal (e.g. not slaughtered in a certain way) then the gelatin from that animal is haraam.
Well, most muslims know that bacon is haraam
. But pepsi vanilla? I wasn't aware that gelatin was used in drinks. Jazakallah kheir for the information though. But last time i checked, starbursts and skittles had no gelatin in them.
Allow me to explain czgibson. Gelatine is derived from animal fat. If the animal is not halaal (e.g. not slaughtered in a certain way) then the gelatin from that animal is haraam.
Shek_05 said:
Well, most muslims know that bacon is haraam
. But pepsi vanilla? I wasn't aware that gelatin was used in drinks. Jazakallah kheir for the information though. But last time i checked, starbursts and skittles had no gelatin in them.
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I don't know what to make of this:
CAIRO, August 3, (IslamOnline.net) - The UK Muslim Law Council has given the Muslim community the go-ahead to buy soft drinks containing tiny traces of alcohol and pork by-products, a British daily reported Monday, August 2.
The council, Britain’s highest authority on halal food, has issued a fatwa making Lucozade and Ribena the first British soft drinks fit for Muslims, following deep Muslim concerns about ingredients in the brands, The Guardian said.
“I see no harm in consuming Ribena and Lucozade which contain traces of ethyl alcohol and animal ingredients that do not bear their original qualities and do not change the taste, color or smell of the product,” Zaki Badawi, the UK Muslim Law Council chair and former adviser on Islam to the Prince of Wales, concluded.
Zaki, however, urged the drinks maker to pursue research to find alternative material in order to allay the conscience of Muslims who might be worried.
The council's ruling was welcomed by GlaxoSmithKline, the company producing the drinks.
“Soft drinks are non-alcoholic, we welcome this confirmation and hope that it can reassure those consumers who were concerned,” a spokesman for the company told the BBC News Online said.
Muslims have voiced concerns about the brands as Lucozade contains 0.01% of ethyl alcohol to aid flavoring while the filter used to produce Ribena is made of gelatin, which is derived from pigs.
The fears prompted GlaxoSmithKline to seek a religion opinion from the Muslim Law Council after Muslim consumers stopped buying its products.
It took the British company five months to get the Council’s fatwa.
The British newspaper said an incident from the life of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) helped Zaki reach his conclusion.
It cited the Prophet’s drinking of liquid produced from soaking raisins in water for several days. The scientists found that the mixture would ferment, producing alcohol, the paper added.
But Sheikh Abdul-Majeed Subh, a prominent Azharite scholar, said that raisins or dates used to be soaked in water for the Prophet, who used to drink it in the first and second days only.
“In the third day, he used to give it to his Companions—and this is an indication that it was not yet fermented. Afterwards if it was fermented, they used to pour it,” IslamOnline.net quoted Subh as saying.
Controversial
There is no unanimity, in effect, on soft drinks containing minute traces of alcohol.
Some scholars totally forbid any percentage of alcohol in drinks, arguing that it permeates the entire drink and change its qualities.
But Dr. Ahmad Sakr, the director of the California-based Foundation For Islamic knowledge, told IOL that scientists and scholars from the Islamic Food Council agree that from 0.01 to 0.05 percentage is insignificant.
The scholars, however, agree that there is nothing wrong in drinks containing animal gelatin.
Dr. Nazih Hammad, a member of the Islamic Fiqh Academy and Fiqh Council of North America, explains: “Because even if it [the gelatin] is made from haram meat it has undergone fundamental process of transformation through certain chemical changes that is called “Istihalah” in Islamic law”.
“So, the ruling of pork does not apply to it anymore and we are still allowed to use it.”
I don't know what to make of this:
CAIRO, August 3, (IslamOnline.net) - The UK Muslim Law Council has given the Muslim community the go-ahead to buy soft drinks containing tiny traces of alcohol and pork by-products, a British daily reported Monday, August 2.
The council, Britain’s highest authority on halal food, has issued a fatwa making Lucozade and Ribena the first British soft drinks fit for Muslims, following deep Muslim concerns about ingredients in the brands, The Guardian said.
“I see no harm in consuming Ribena and Lucozade which contain traces of ethyl alcohol and animal ingredients that do not bear their original qualities and do not change the taste, color or smell of the product,” Zaki Badawi, the UK Muslim Law Council chair and former adviser on Islam to the Prince of Wales, concluded.
Zaki, however, urged the drinks maker to pursue research to find alternative material in order to allay the conscience of Muslims who might be worried.
The council's ruling was welcomed by GlaxoSmithKline, the company producing the drinks.
“Soft drinks are non-alcoholic, we welcome this confirmation and hope that it can reassure those consumers who were concerned,” a spokesman for the company told the BBC News Online said.
Muslims have voiced concerns about the brands as Lucozade contains 0.01% of ethyl alcohol to aid flavoring while the filter used to produce Ribena is made of gelatin, which is derived from pigs.
The fears prompted GlaxoSmithKline to seek a religion opinion from the Muslim Law Council after Muslim consumers stopped buying its products.
It took the British company five months to get the Council’s fatwa.
The British newspaper said an incident from the life of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) helped Zaki reach his conclusion.
It cited the Prophet’s drinking of liquid produced from soaking raisins in water for several days. The scientists found that the mixture would ferment, producing alcohol, the paper added.
But Sheikh Abdul-Majeed Subh, a prominent Azharite scholar, said that raisins or dates used to be soaked in water for the Prophet, who used to drink it in the first and second days only.
“In the third day, he used to give it to his Companions—and this is an indication that it was not yet fermented. Afterwards if it was fermented, they used to pour it,” IslamOnline.net quoted Subh as saying.
Controversial
There is no unanimity, in effect, on soft drinks containing minute traces of alcohol.
Some scholars totally forbid any percentage of alcohol in drinks, arguing that it permeates the entire drink and change its qualities.
But Dr. Ahmad Sakr, the director of the California-based Foundation For Islamic knowledge, told IOL that scientists and scholars from the Islamic Food Council agree that from 0.01 to 0.05 percentage is insignificant.
The scholars, however, agree that there is nothing wrong in drinks containing animal gelatin.
Dr. Nazih Hammad, a member of the Islamic Fiqh Academy and Fiqh Council of North America, explains: “Because even if it [the gelatin] is made from haram meat it has undergone fundamental process of transformation through certain chemical changes that is called “Istihalah” in Islamic law”.
“So, the ruling of pork does not apply to it anymore and we are still allowed to use it.”
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The alcohol part I can live with as this is also present in certain brands of bread - without this small trace of it the bread wouldnt be bread if you know what I mean. The gelatine, hmm. Well, if the filter used is made of gelatine, then..but that would mean...
The alcohol part I can live with as this is also present in certain brands of bread - without this small trace of it the bread wouldnt be bread if you know what I mean. The gelatine, hmm. Well, if the filter used is made of gelatine, then..but that would mean...
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Assalamu alaikum
I can not...
“They ask you (O Muhammad) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: ‘In them is a great sin, and (some) benefits for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit’”
[al-Baqarah 2:219]
“O you who believe! Intoxicants, gambling, al-ansaab [animals that are sacrificed on stone altars for idols], and al-azlaam [arrows for seeking luck or decision], are an abomination of Shaytaan’s handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful. Shaytaan wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allaah and from al-salaah (the prayer). So will you not then abstain?” [al-Ma’idah 5:90-91]
barakallahu feekum
Assalamu alaikum
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I can not...
“They ask you (O Muhammad) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: ‘In them is a great sin, and (some) benefits for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit’”
[al-Baqarah 2:219]
“O you who believe! Intoxicants, gambling, al-ansaab [animals that are sacrificed on stone altars for idols], and al-azlaam [arrows for seeking luck or decision], are an abomination of Shaytaan’s handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful. Shaytaan wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allaah and from al-salaah (the prayer). So will you not then abstain?” [al-Ma’idah 5:90-91]
barakallahu feekum
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A confession here.
I belonged to a sufi group once when I was young.
We had everything, hospitals, clinics, schools, our own neighborhood, abbatoir, drinks, soap, ketchup......
we should make our own products.... sigh..
A confession here.
I belonged to a sufi group once when I was young.
We had everything, hospitals, clinics, schools, our own neighborhood, abbatoir, drinks, soap, ketchup......
we should make our own products.... sigh..
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That maybe so but do remember that the percentage of alcohol inside the product is a very small (0.01%) by-product. As I stated earlier, the same percentage is also present in bread. I read an article about that someplace.Far7an said:
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Sadly I dont have the article at hand - to tell you the truth, I read it quite a while ago. I will look for it soon however. Also, there is a chance that it could be found on the internet. Anyways, I gotta get to bed now, I gotta wake up early in morning to pick up results...
Sadly I dont have the article at hand - to tell you the truth, I read it quite a while ago. I will look for it soon however. Also, there is a chance that it could be found on the internet. Anyways, I gotta get to bed now, I gotta wake up early in morning to pick up results...
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Right???..................hmmm.....
Right???..................hmmm.....
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Assalamalakum sister
I live in the uk and the uk is tiny compared to America but still we can find alot of Halaal foods and meat . WALMART is massive in America and we have ASDA and alot of the food is stated suitable for vegetarians although we do have to check if it has alcohol in but this is a minor set back, as for meat I would get in touch with your local mosque or practising muslims and ask them about Halaal meat , I beg u not to buy haraam chicken or lamb, mutton as ALLAH will reward u for finding out and buying halal , please forgive me if i have said any thing to offend you.
Assalamalakum sister
I live in the uk and the uk is tiny compared to America but still we can find alot of Halaal foods and meat . WALMART is massive in America and we have ASDA and alot of the food is stated suitable for vegetarians although we do have to check if it has alcohol in but this is a minor set back, as for meat I would get in touch with your local mosque or practising muslims and ask them about Halaal meat , I beg u not to buy haraam chicken or lamb, mutton as ALLAH will reward u for finding out and buying halal , please forgive me if i have said any thing to offend you.
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Wa Alaikumusslaam Wa Rahmatulaahi Wa Barakatuh
Your over re-acting. If you clearly read what i was refering to I wasn't personally talking about meat. Since i know meat not preaped in the way of Islam is haram. I was was talking about E-Numbers. People give you a long list of E-Numbers that have not been verified by the 'Ulimah, and when you go into a super market you can't buy alot. You walk out with a few.
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Wa Alaikumusslaam Wa Rahmatulaahi Wa Barakatuh
Your over re-acting. If you clearly read what i was refering to I wasn't personally talking about meat. Since i know meat not preaped in the way of Islam is haram. I was was talking about E-Numbers. People give you a long list of E-Numbers that have not been verified by the 'Ulimah, and when you go into a super market you can't buy alot. You walk out with a few.
