The truth is tht no matter how much we try to explain the resons for hamas actions, these pro israeli-americans here will never accept the truth and reality.they have been brainwashed by their government and media, so they see hamas as an enemy, a threat and a 'terrorist' group. so trying to explain to them jst causes unnecessary repitition, its hard to change a fixed prejudiced and biased mind.
assalamu alaykum
I am not a 'pro israeli-americans' and don't put it past my government to tell me falsities.
Its said by many Muslims that non-believer’s are blind.
Well if I can get a post on here without it being deleted I’d like to get what I see out so that it can be made clear for me.
It’s not my intention to cause fitnah (dissention) or to caste Islam in a bad light but I can see already that my aims will have fingers hovering over the ‘trash it’ button. Why oh why cant contentious issues are discussed with out blasphemy charges being made, everyone insulted, wounded and flying of the handle.
In this forum the some one said the Palestinian struggle is political not religious yet ‘allahu akba’ is screamed every time someone is killed. I ask you, how can anyone not think that religion is at the bottom of it? This type of statement is so frustrating because you can’t understand why one would.
I know next to nothing of history and have never known a Jew personally but from what I understand they’ve been burned, bashed and beaten from the time of Jesus so I can’t help but feel for them and from what I understand we’re originally chased from Jerusalem by Muhammad (pbuh) so why not let them have isreal. Face it, they’ve turned the place into a benefit…. Oops here comes the trash bin…
Why do you not accept there is a strong religious reason that the Arabs cannot live peacefully and accept the benefits of such a people? Do you deny Muhammad (pbuh) made the Jews pigs and donkeys that they will never be accepted by Allah (saw) and that this is taught in the Maddrassa?
You say I maybe brainwashed, blind.
This is so frustrating for the non-believer (Australian, Sydney-born Sheik Feiz Mohamed, described non-Muslims as “Kaffir, the worst word that can ever be written … a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt.”). Sheik Feiz has been in Lebanon in self exile ‘instilling in the young tender hearts of children the love of jihad’ (his words) where he still draws social security payments from the Australian government.
Please show me where I am blind because this is not comfortable for me.
I have a funny feeling people are running for the 'delete this button' right about now.
You will tell me this is not Islamic and he is wrong and yet this is a loud and constant message coming form the ummah by and large.
However, the established pattern has been for Muslim academics and commentators to greet controversy with silence. Why?
One reason is conformity (according to Bashir Goth, a Muslim journalist and writer: "As Muslims we may claim to possess all the good virtues in the world but we definitely lack one very important virtue - that of self-criticism - while the West is at least blessed with this virtue.")
There are some awkward questions that cannot be avoided indefinitely but I have no faith in you religious people to even allow my questions here as you are unable to question even yourselves less you weaken your faith. "O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith." (Surah 5:102-103)
After 9/11 I became interested in Islam (good you say, God works in mysterious ways) but it was the Jews and CIA did it for political reasons and if Bin Laden did do it then it was not Islam because Islam means peace!
Questioning further I learn that Islam actually means surrender. Surrender to Islam then there is peace. Isn’t that an important clarification to understand?
"Allah's Apostle said, ‘some eloquent speech is as effective as magic.'" Imam Abu Hammid Ghazali, one of the most famous and respected Muslim theologians, says: "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible." It’s called takiya.
Reading this guy’s testimony answered many of the inconsistent messages of Muslims.
No compulsion in religion comes from a story about the Quarysh where Muhammad (pbuh) said there should be no compulsion to leave Islam… that’s it. Everywhere else is compulsions to convert to Islam! Death penalty for someone who leaves it!
Some of you will now tell me that all these things you speak are true but these were things in time of war, apostasy was treason and traitors should be killed and it’s not halal to kill the innocent. Aren’t you practicing takiya or are you ignorant of the teachings of your own religion? Dar-alislam and Dar-alhab, house of peace and house of war.
Sincerely I ask, don’t you want an end to the killing then I ask you to question what is being said and done through the blinkered vision of Islam today. Question, did the West save the Muslims in Kosovo? Did the West go to the aid of Saudi Arabia at the Saudi’s request when Saddam Hussein invaded it after the oil fields? Didn’t Bin Laden get pissed off when the Saudi’s rejected his help and then become their enemy? Didn’t the West support Afghanistan against the Russian’s? Didn’t the USA invade Afghanistan because Bin Laden attacked America and the Taliban wouldn’t hand him over? Didn’t America invade Iraq because Saddam, trying to intimidate his Arab neighbors convince everyone that he had weapons of mass destruction?
Muslims want to live in peace? You have got to be kidding!! Again more Muslims have killed other Muslims in the last 100 years than the kaffirs have ever killed the Muslims. Pakistani soldiers of Allah butchered 3 million Bangladeshis in 1971. Why? Iran has killed how many of its own people to impose sharia? How many Muslims have been killed in Afghanistan by the Taliban because they were not Muslim enough? Who is killing and raping and enslaving in Sudan right now? Who has been killing Muslims in Algeria and in Yemen over the last 30 years? Why play the victim? Poor Muslims! It is the Muslims who kill other Muslims!! Why can't you be honest for a second? How many Muslims have the Israelis killed in the last sixty years? How many Muslims have the Palestinians killed? How many Muslims did Saddam kill? How many Muslims did Assad of Syria kill? Assad wiped out 20,000 in a single day when he leveled the town of Hama. Learn to count and see who has been killing the Muslims around the world. And all this killing is being done in the name of Allah (saw).
You say as a non-believer that I can never see the truth but please persevere with me because I do want to see and I have put a lot of work in this post so you can correct me.
Sure Hamas is enraged the the Jews are on what is considered Arab land but they want them dead for the love of Allah (saw).
