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So, you know what it's mean .. then why this partial view?



please .. I want you to understand that we don't hate jews, but yea, we hate Israel.

that's completely different.
peace

Then why bring it up if your only concern is the state of Israel? The only people who actually buy into the "Elders of Zion" garbage are those who hate Jews. Why associate yourself with it if you don't hate Jews?
 
Trumble ^ who came up with that article? Why should it refer to Jews only? If arabs speak semetic languages, and anyone is anti arab, or jewish, or syriac - then yeah, it should be termed as anti-semetic. That guys authority is nothing, if it's lenient upon his own race. If someones anti black, it doesn't mean it's just anyone who's from Nigeria for example, it's anyone who's black. And there isn't an exception to that.


anti:

    1. Opposite: antimere.
    2. Opposing; against: antiapartheid.
    3. Counteracting; neutralizing: antacid.
    4. Destroying: antiaircraft.
    1. Inverse: antilogarithm.
    2. Displaying opposite characteristics: antihero.
[Greek, from anti, opposite.]


I know what 'anti' means. But as the article said 'anti-semitic' is NOT an antonym for 'semitic' any more than 'antidote' is a synonym for 'dote'. 'Semetism', means

"a Hebrew or Aramaic vocabulary or grammatical construction brought into the Greek text. Also called Hebraism or Aramaism".

You will agree, surely that an antonym of that in the means you suggest (sticking 'anti' in front of it) makes no sense? Despite the prefix 'anti-semitism' a word with it's own definition, which means prejudice against Jews.

thefreedictionary.com

wordnet.princeton.edu

www.answers.com !!

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism#Definitions_of_the_term"]Wikipedia


Though the general definition of antisemitism is hostility or prejudice towards Jews, a number of authorities have developed more formal definitions. Holocaust scholar and City University of New York professor Helen Fein's definition has been particularly influential. She defines antisemitism as "a persisting latent structure of hostile beliefs towards Jews as a collective manifested in individuals as attitudes, and in culture as myth, ideology, folklore and imagery, and in actions – social or legal discrimination, political mobilisation against the Jews, and collective or state violence – which results in and/or is designed to distance, displace, or destroy Jews as Jews."

Professor Dietz Bering of the University of Cologne further expanded on Professor Fein's definition by describing the structure of antisemitic beliefs. To antisemites, "Jews are not only partially but totally bad by nature, that is, their bad traits are incorrigible. Because of this bad nature: (1) Jews have to be seen not as individuals but as a collective. (2) Jews remain essentially alien in the surrounding societies. (3) Jews bring disaster on their 'host societies' or on the whole world, they are doing it secretly, therefore the antisemites feel obliged to unmask the conspiratorial, bad Jewish character."

Bernard Lewis defines antisemitism as a special case of prejudice, hatred, or persecution directed against people who are in some way different from the rest. According to Lewis, antisemitism is marked by two distinct features: Jews are judged according to a standard different from that applied to others, and they are accused of "cosmic evil." Thus, "it is perfectly possible to hate and even to persecute Jews without necessarily being anti-Semitic" unless this hatred or persecution displays one of the two features specific to antisemitism.[15]

There have been a number of efforts by international and governmental bodies to define antisemitism formally. The United States Department of State defines antisemitism in its 2005 Report on Global Anti-Semitism as "hatred toward Jews — individually and as a group — that can be attributed to the Jewish religion and/or ethnicity."[16]

In 2005, the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia (EUMC), a body of the European Union, developed a more detailed discussion: "Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities. In addition, such manifestations could also target the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. Antisemitism frequently charges Jews with conspiring to harm humanity, and it is often used to blame Jews for 'why things go wrong'."

The EUMC then listed "contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere." These included: "Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews; accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group; denying the Holocaust; and accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations. The EUMC also discussed ways in which attacking Israel could be antisemitic, depending on the context, while clarifying that "criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic."


Feel free to produce ONE English dictionary definition that defines anti-semitism more broadly, in the way you are suggesting.





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Hamas acted on a very real fear of a US-sponsored coup

[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Washington's fingerprints are all over the chaos that has hit Palestinians. The last thing they now need is an envoy called Blair[/FONT]

Did they jump or were they pushed? Was Hamas's seizure of Fatah security offices in Gaza unprovoked, or a pre-emptive strike to forestall a coup by Fatah? After last week's turmoil, it becomes increasingly important to uncover its origins.

he document is dated March 2, less than a month after Saudi Arabia brokered the Mecca agreement under which Abbas finally agreed with Hamas on a unity government. The deal upset the Israelis and Washington because it left Hamas's prime minister Ismail Haniyeh in charge. The document suggests the US wanted to sabotage it. Certainly, according to Hamas officials whom a depressed Abbas later briefed, Abbas was told to scrap Mecca at every subsequent meeting he has had with Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert or with US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice and Abrams.Most ominously, the document of US objectives outlined a $1.27bn programme that would add seven special battalions, totalling 4,700 men, to the 15,000 Abbas already has in his presidential guard and other security forces, which were also to be given extra training and arms. "The desired outcome will be the transformation of Palestinian security forces and provide for the president of the Palestinian Authority to able to safeguard decisions such as dismissing the cabinet and forming an emergency cabinet," the document says.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,2108926,00.html
 
"When a person places the proper value on freedom, there is nothing under the sun that he will not do to acquire that freedom. Whenever you hear a man saying he wants freedom, but in the next breath he is going to tell you what he won't do to get it, or what he doesn't believe in doing in order to get it, he doesn't believe in freedom. A man who believes in freedom will do anything under the sun to acquire . . . or preserve his freedom." X
 
Same here, and I'm defintely very interested in seeing something like this! Hope they make it public for download and analysis like they did with Ahmedinajad's letter to Bush. Now THAT would be cool :D


Going by the actions of the US government throughout history, this is true.

USA rescued Europe from nazi Germans, USA helped aliants in ending the World War 1, USA saved life of many many muslims in Kosovo and Bosnia, USA tried to rescue southern and east Asia from the communist desease, USA defeated the Soviet Union in Cold War and gave freedom to many nations in central and eastern Europe.
And what AL Queada made valuable in history huh?

I am not American, but saying that USA are 100 time worse than Al Queda means that you are either ignorant or you dont know about history anything.
 
[SIZE=+2]How We Denied Democracy to the Middle East[/SIZE]


[SIZE=+3]T[/SIZE]he Brits created all those worthy sheikhdoms in the Gulf. Kuwait was our doing; Saudi Arabia was ultimately a joint Anglo-US project, the United Arab Emirates (formerly the Trucial State) etc. But when Iran decided in the 1950s that it preferred Mohammed Mossadeq's democratic rule to the Shah's, the CIA's Kim Roosevelt, with Colonel "Monty" Woodhouse of MI6, overthrew democracy in Iran. Now President Bush demands the same "democracy" in present-day Iran and says we merely "excused and accommodated" the loathsome US-supported Shah's regime.


http://www.counterpunch.org/fisk11102003.html


1. Slavery
2. Vietnam
3. Cuba, Latin America
4. Iraaq
5. Somalia
6. Afghnaistan


Please fill in the many many gaps
 
"When a person places the proper value on freedom, there is nothing under the sun that he will not do to acquire that freedom. Whenever you hear a man saying he wants freedom, but in the next breath he is going to tell you what he won't do to get it, or what he doesn't believe in doing in order to get it, he doesn't believe in freedom. A man who believes in freedom will do anything under the sun to acquire . . . or preserve his freedom." X
The fastest path to freedom is peace. Without peace, there will never be freedom.
 
1. Slavery

So Americans invented slavery? Man, hundreds years before USA was created, Arabs captured and sold slaves in east Africa and Turks in southern and central Europe.


3. Cuba, Latin America

What do you mean exactly? Cuba is such a poor country now because communism kills every progress and economical growth.


5. Somalia

Americans wanted to save Somali's people from Muhammad Farrah Aidid, who took over the food supplies sent to Somalia by West.

6. Afghnaistan

And who supported mujaheddins in fights against Soviet Union huh?
 
Sorry, I just can't help it...

Zman said:
Without Justice, there will never be peace.

Justice leads to freedom, which then leads to peace...
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion I gain strength.
Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.


The Sith code ;D

lol
 
Then why bring it up if your only concern is the state of Israel? The only people who actually buy into the "Elders of Zion" garbage are those who hate Jews. Why associate yourself with it if you don't hate Jews?

because not all the jews are zionists ..

to me,I believe both sides suffer and die .. but, briefly Isreal is the responsible.

those believers in the two sides are victims .. In a world stained with injustice, tragedies and woes which stem from the hostility of man against man, being fueled by the selfish interests of narrow-minded opportunists by inflaming emotions and provoking passions through exploiting the inherent power of religion, which is in essence a divine system that promotes man, maintains his life and guarantees his rights; the significance of awareness and insightful comprehension rises as a fort that safeguards against falling into the mires of the lesion of seeing the ugly beautiful.

we have to diagnose for a disease that worsens by ignorance .. we have to elucidate and a quest for remedy which is based on awareness and right understanding.

So that the Religion Does not Become a Game ..

peace
 
because not all the jews are zionists ..

to me,I believe both sides suffer and die .. but, briefly Isreal is the responsible.

those believers in the two sides are victims .. In a world stained with injustice, tragedies and woes which stem from the hostility of man against man, being fueled by the selfish interests of narrow-minded opportunists by inflaming emotions and provoking passions through exploiting the inherent power of religion, which is in essence a divine system that promotes man, maintains his life and guarantees his rights; the significance of awareness and insightful comprehension rises as a fort that safeguards against falling into the mires of the lesion of seeing the ugly beautiful.

we have to diagnose for a disease that worsens by ignorance .. we have to elucidate and a quest for remedy which is based on awareness and right understanding.

So that the Religion Does not Become a Game ..

peace

I have no idea what your point is here.
 
I agree too, we don't hate all Jews. However, we totally dislike the zionists who have occupied the Muslim land. We muslims never had a problem with jews living among the muslims for centuries, yet what's happening today is really evil.


I think sister mariam is saying that we need to come together to eradicate each others misconceptions, and teach everyone the right understanding in order to create peace between both parties.
 
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I think sister mariam is saying that we need to come together to eradicate each others misconceptions, and teach everyone the right understanding in order to create peace between both parties.

It is sad to think that I probably wont see that in my lifetime

Reps for the suggestion though
 

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