It is one thing to agree or disagree with a book but to say this is halal and this is haram needs alot of knowledge and I would like to remind members that this should only be left for the experts in this field.
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It is one thing to agree or disagree with a book but to say this is halal and this is haram needs alot of knowledge and I would like to remind members that this should only be left for the experts in this field.
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Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, brother ive noticed that in a lot of your posts you seem to rant on about things you have no knowldge about. Why? Learn and then make your conclusion but if you do not know then how can you comment and make your conclusion abut it?
Oh i forgot you don't take knowledge from scholars. Then out of your arrogance and ignorance you will remain lost and confused and without knowledge therefore easily misled and misguided.
How will you learn anything without taking knowledge from scholars? Thats impossible!
If Allah tells us in the Qur'an that refer to those who know if you know not then is Allah wrong? Then you are going against the commands of Allah aswell as our Prophet (Pbuh) who clearly stated that the scholars are the successors of the Prophets.
You could say one thing incorrect and be taken out of the fold of Islam that is why its crucial that we take our knowledge from those who know because we CANNOT make our own interpretations. You don't even know Arabic so how can you even begin to critique widely known intepretations from certain verses in the Qur'an?
When one does not have substantive knowledge of the Qur’an and hadith corpus, and lacks the fiqh methodology to comprehensively join between it, the hadiths one has read are not even enough.
So one has to get over ones arrogance in these matters because arrogance is what led satan out of hell because he thought he knew better than Allah when Allah asked him to prostrate to Adam (As) he refused and said that he is made of clay and i of fire so why shuld i prostrate to him for i am better than him. Sameway we who lack knowledge should not think we know better than scholars who have been gifted knowledge from Allah and Allah has ordered us in the Qur'an to refer to them for knolwedge and so has Rasulallah (Pbuh) so if we do not follow what Allah and his rasul have said then we are only following our own desires and whims and then are surely misguided.
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It is one thing to agree or disagree with a book but to say this is halal and this is haram needs alot of knowledge and I would like to remind members that this should only be left for the experts in this field.
Asalaamu Alaikum Wr Wb, if you look at my first post in this thread i quoted a scholar's opinion and as you have correctly stated we as lay people cannot give fatwa's but soe people do anyway. That is why i feel this section should be moderated more. Especially from those who rant on without knowledge and refuse to take from those who have knowledge. This is pure ignorance and arrogance. May Allah save us from this. Ameen
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Harry Who?
An Islamic Analysis of the Harry Potter Phenomenon
By Um Noah
Harry Potter and friends as characterised in the recent film.
Magic is an old human practice. It is sometimes defined as deception by showing something to an audience, which is contrary to reality. Magic is listed as the third major sin after Shirk and Murder, according to Adh-Dhahabi in his book 'Al-Kaba'ir' The Major Sins.
In the light of the above definition, Islam considers magic to be an act of blasphemy. Allah says:
They followed what the Shayâtin (devils) gave out (falsely of the magic) in the lifetime of Sulaimân (Solomon). Sulaimân did not disbelieve, but the Shayâtin (devils) disbelieved, teaching men magic and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels, Hârût and Mârût, but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said,
"We are only for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us)." And from these (angels) people learn that by which they cause separation between man and his wife, but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allâh's Leave. And they learn that which harms them and profits them not. And indeed they knew that the buyers of it (magic) would have no share in the Hereafter. And how bad indeed was that for which they sold their own selves, if they but knew. (Qur'an 2:102)
In my quest to get a better understanding of those that read or watch things related to magic, I was quite surprised to find more Christians addressing this issue than Muslims. In fact I couldn't find one article regarding this issue. And with the recent release of the Harry Potter film, I'm even more driven to find a clear answer. Oh, I've heard the argument: "Harry Potter is wonderful, it encourages kids to read!"
Certainly, reading is important. Allah says:
Read! In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists)
Has created man from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood).
Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous,
Who has taught (the writing) by the pen.(Qur'an 96 1-4)
But do you really think that Harry Potter is the kind of reading Allah had in mind?
The Prophet tells us that witchcraft, sorcery, and magic are evil. He (peace be upon him) said, "There are three who will not enter paradise: one who is addicted to wine, one who breaks ties of relationship, and one who believes in magic." (Ahmad)
And Allah's Apostle said, "Avoid the Mubiqat, i.e., shirk and witchcraft." (Bukhari)
Imaginary (or virtual) experiences and well-written fantasies can affect the mind and memories as much, if not more, than actual experiences. Designed to stir feelings and produce strong emotional responses, a well-planned myth with likeable characters can be far more memorable than the less exciting daily reality, especially when reinforced through books, toys and games as well as movies. It is no wonder Harry Potter fans have been counting the days to see the sorcery, magic, potions and spells.
Our children need good, moral characters to identify with. When they have been accustomed to reading and now seeing this fantasy we must ask ourselves as their protectors and educators if these are the types of role models we want for them.
Allah says:
O you who believe! Ward off from yourselves and your families a Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, over which are (appointed) angels stern (and) severe, who disobey not, (from executing) the Commands they receive from Allâh, but do that which they are commanded. (Qur'an 66:6)
Allah reminds us of our short existence in this life and the need to choose good over evil:
The life of this world is but play and pastime, but if you believe (in the Oneness of Allâh Islâmic Monotheism), and fear Allâh, and avoid evil, He will grant you your wages, and will not ask you your wealth. (Qur'an 47:36)
By overexposing our children to the Harry Potter kind of material we run the risk that they may lose their natural aversion for the devious spirits represented by the creatures and symbols in these stories. Caught up in the exciting story, they absorb the suggested values and store the fascinating images in their minds, making the forbidden world of the occult seem more normal.
Professor Snape, a teacher at Hogwarts Academy in the Harry Potter film.
Fun fantasies and strategic entertainment have a special way of altering values, compromising beliefs and changing behavior in adults as well as in children. This learning process has been named "edutainment" a favored way to educate and entertain at the same time, for example Sesame Street. Its power to influence beliefs and behavior is illustrated by today's marketing firms; which spend billions on entertaining ads that touch emotions, ignore the facts, and yet motivate people to buy the product.
This Harry Potter 'ideology' is a good example. It comes complete with trading cards, computer and other wizardly games, clothes, action figures and cuddly dolls as well as audio cassettes that could keep the child's minds focused on the occult all day and into night. What's next, a Ouiji Board?
Teach your children Allah's Truths and train them to see reality through the teachings of Allah and His Prophet (peace be upon him) and not through the world's perspective. To succeed, we must be ever-conscious of their surroundings. Is it possible to shield them from contrary values, I'm sure it's not, however it is possible to offer them clear understandings of these things in light of the Qur'an and Sunnah. Once they have learned to love what Allah loves and hate what Allah hates, and to see life from His Words, they will demonstrate their wisdom by choosing to say "no" to Harry Potter and the like.
All right, so you've finished reading this editorial and you see things differently. All this time you've allowed your kids to read and view material related to magic, what do you do now to stop it?
Every family is different and therefore our approach to this matter will differ. You may need to cut it out completely and sit with your children to explain the situation in detail. We can only be accountable for what we know and our intentional acts. Being a Muslim means always learning. We are always growing and changing our views in order to meet the needs of our Faith at any age.
May Allah guide me and forgive me for anything that was said unintentionally, and in any respect not in accordance with Allah and His teachings. He is The All-Knower, and The Merciful.
Source:http://www.missionislam.com/family/harrywho.htm
An Islamic Analysis of the Harry Potter Phenomenon
By Um Noah
Harry Potter and friends as characterised in the recent film.
Magic is an old human practice. It is sometimes defined as deception by showing something to an audience, which is contrary to reality. Magic is listed as the third major sin after Shirk and Murder, according to Adh-Dhahabi in his book 'Al-Kaba'ir' The Major Sins.
In the light of the above definition, Islam considers magic to be an act of blasphemy. Allah says:
They followed what the Shayâtin (devils) gave out (falsely of the magic) in the lifetime of Sulaimân (Solomon). Sulaimân did not disbelieve, but the Shayâtin (devils) disbelieved, teaching men magic and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels, Hârût and Mârût, but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said,
"We are only for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us)." And from these (angels) people learn that by which they cause separation between man and his wife, but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allâh's Leave. And they learn that which harms them and profits them not. And indeed they knew that the buyers of it (magic) would have no share in the Hereafter. And how bad indeed was that for which they sold their own selves, if they but knew. (Qur'an 2:102)
In my quest to get a better understanding of those that read or watch things related to magic, I was quite surprised to find more Christians addressing this issue than Muslims. In fact I couldn't find one article regarding this issue. And with the recent release of the Harry Potter film, I'm even more driven to find a clear answer. Oh, I've heard the argument: "Harry Potter is wonderful, it encourages kids to read!"
Certainly, reading is important. Allah says:
Read! In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists)
Has created man from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood).
Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous,
Who has taught (the writing) by the pen.(Qur'an 96 1-4)
But do you really think that Harry Potter is the kind of reading Allah had in mind?
The Prophet tells us that witchcraft, sorcery, and magic are evil. He (peace be upon him) said, "There are three who will not enter paradise: one who is addicted to wine, one who breaks ties of relationship, and one who believes in magic." (Ahmad)
And Allah's Apostle said, "Avoid the Mubiqat, i.e., shirk and witchcraft." (Bukhari)
Imaginary (or virtual) experiences and well-written fantasies can affect the mind and memories as much, if not more, than actual experiences. Designed to stir feelings and produce strong emotional responses, a well-planned myth with likeable characters can be far more memorable than the less exciting daily reality, especially when reinforced through books, toys and games as well as movies. It is no wonder Harry Potter fans have been counting the days to see the sorcery, magic, potions and spells.
Our children need good, moral characters to identify with. When they have been accustomed to reading and now seeing this fantasy we must ask ourselves as their protectors and educators if these are the types of role models we want for them.
Allah says:
O you who believe! Ward off from yourselves and your families a Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, over which are (appointed) angels stern (and) severe, who disobey not, (from executing) the Commands they receive from Allâh, but do that which they are commanded. (Qur'an 66:6)
Allah reminds us of our short existence in this life and the need to choose good over evil:
The life of this world is but play and pastime, but if you believe (in the Oneness of Allâh Islâmic Monotheism), and fear Allâh, and avoid evil, He will grant you your wages, and will not ask you your wealth. (Qur'an 47:36)
By overexposing our children to the Harry Potter kind of material we run the risk that they may lose their natural aversion for the devious spirits represented by the creatures and symbols in these stories. Caught up in the exciting story, they absorb the suggested values and store the fascinating images in their minds, making the forbidden world of the occult seem more normal.
Professor Snape, a teacher at Hogwarts Academy in the Harry Potter film.
Fun fantasies and strategic entertainment have a special way of altering values, compromising beliefs and changing behavior in adults as well as in children. This learning process has been named "edutainment" a favored way to educate and entertain at the same time, for example Sesame Street. Its power to influence beliefs and behavior is illustrated by today's marketing firms; which spend billions on entertaining ads that touch emotions, ignore the facts, and yet motivate people to buy the product.
This Harry Potter 'ideology' is a good example. It comes complete with trading cards, computer and other wizardly games, clothes, action figures and cuddly dolls as well as audio cassettes that could keep the child's minds focused on the occult all day and into night. What's next, a Ouiji Board?
Teach your children Allah's Truths and train them to see reality through the teachings of Allah and His Prophet (peace be upon him) and not through the world's perspective. To succeed, we must be ever-conscious of their surroundings. Is it possible to shield them from contrary values, I'm sure it's not, however it is possible to offer them clear understandings of these things in light of the Qur'an and Sunnah. Once they have learned to love what Allah loves and hate what Allah hates, and to see life from His Words, they will demonstrate their wisdom by choosing to say "no" to Harry Potter and the like.
All right, so you've finished reading this editorial and you see things differently. All this time you've allowed your kids to read and view material related to magic, what do you do now to stop it?
Every family is different and therefore our approach to this matter will differ. You may need to cut it out completely and sit with your children to explain the situation in detail. We can only be accountable for what we know and our intentional acts. Being a Muslim means always learning. We are always growing and changing our views in order to meet the needs of our Faith at any age.
May Allah guide me and forgive me for anything that was said unintentionally, and in any respect not in accordance with Allah and His teachings. He is The All-Knower, and The Merciful.
Source:http://www.missionislam.com/family/harrywho.htm
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I laughed when I wrote this post because I thought Harry Potter is same as other witch or fairy tales. Just tale for children.
However, posts from brother abu_musab461 made me wonder. Then I seek some references about magic in web and I found brother abu_musab461 is right. Magics in Harry Potter books are based on real magics.
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Well, I thank you all, for your opininions, but I think in final conclusion my question was directed to the fact that it was a simple book that turned into a dangerous addiction,and led me astray. I suppose this books are the tools of the shaytan, and we don't even notice. It's shocking how many tools the shaytan uses to distract us from the remembrance of Allah (swt), so in the end I suppose the books are haram, they bring nothing but the shaytan to your house. I think absolutlely the Creator of all things would not approve of this, so I guess the discussion ends here. Thank you
May Allah have mercy with us all.
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Who's the ranter?
All this hypocritical anti-ranting ranting, all these false, overblown allegations, all these words put in my mouth, all these insulting comparisons to Satan himself--all because I corrected some terribly mistaken (and apparently possibly anti-Semitic) allegations of black magic on the likes of black magic skeptic and debunker Harry Houdini, and begged people to consider that their behavior was feeding negative stereotypes, and pointed out that books in which things like shouting "Riddikulus!" to make a monster based on your worst fear turn into a silly thing that no longer scares you hardly poses a Satanic threat based on real magic.
I feel like the judge in the Monty Python sketch who hears the long, impassioned, tangential speech pleading for freedom from the defendant which approaches Wordsworth in style, length, and intensity, only to reply in a bored, annoyed tone, "It's only a [expletive] parking offense!"
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