Has a Happy Person Ever Become Atheist?

AntiKarateKid said:
There is no fallacy in it. Every action is judged by its intention. If you're intention is to ignore Allah and go about life focus on your earthly life with no regards to the hereafter, then Allah will grant you that. You will have nothing later.

There is nothing to be disappointed in, except the unfulfilled potential of your soul.
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Really dude?.............. First of the fallicy was the Umar would go to hell because even though he had good intent he failed. Allah would know that Umar would have tried so this would not be the case. That was Joes fallacy God will send me to heaven because he knows my heart can not understand him but you will go to hell because you failed to help find God even though God would know he tried. Second off their is plenty to be dissapointed by with the end of that post. Did you not understand my post, because your reply sure seem to indicate that fact.
 
Yea honestly, Islam invites you to use your intellect to discover Allah. You seem intellectual, so go for it.
 
ATHEISTofPEACE said:
Really dude?.............. First of the fallicy was the Umar would go to hell because even though he had good intent he failed. Allah would know that Umar would have tried so this would not be the case. That was Joes fallacy God will send me to heaven because he knows my heart can not understand him but you will go to hell because you failed to help find God even though God would know he tried. Second off their is plenty to be dissapointed by with the end of that post. Did you not understand my post, because your reply sure seem to indicate that fact.
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A person fails due to himself and him alone. Good intentions must be accompanied with proper actions. Proper actions are carried out by the person.

Rephrase your response because I can't seem to understand what you're trying to pass off as a fallacy.
 
Umar^111 said:
dONT GIVE UP YOU ARE A GOOD AND WISE MAN ONLY MISSING A THING OUR OR 2 ONE IS GOD
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And what would some others be?:D I use to get insulted by people wishing that but nowadays I take it as a compliment when I am putting myself in such a place to receive those words. However if I with out inciting it get told that some one wants me to find God or faith I get annoyed. If I am leaving you alone then you should leave me alone. Now here I am not leaving you alone so it is a compliment.
 
AntiKarateKid said:
A person fails due to himself and him alone. Good intentions must be accompanied with proper actions. Proper actions are carried out by the person.

Rephrase your response because I can't seem to understand what you're trying to pass off as a fallacy.
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Joe said Allah will forgive him for not being able to understand him because Allah is all knowing and forgiving but would punish Umar for his positive intent to help Joe even though his failure to do so was not his own fault. Joe was contradicting himself.
 
Only care about your own deeds and intentions brother.
 
ATHEISTofPEACE said:
And what would some others be?:D I use to get insulted by people wishing that but nowadays I take it as a compliment when I am putting myself in such a place to receive those words. However if I with out inciting it get told that some one wants me to find God or faith I get annoyed. If I am leaving you alone then you should leave me alone. Now here I am not leaving you alone so it is a compliment.
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I sure hope i didnt offend you :) so whats holding you back i didnt see if you posted anything about this question
 
Umar^111 said:
I sure hope i didnt offend you :) so whats holding you back i didnt see if you posted anything about this question
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I did but the main reason was that I can not beilive in the concept of God/god(s). Then the way I view some gods, how I view reality, and the lack of appeal and evidence..... just to be brief.
 
ATHEISTofPEACE said:
I did but the main reason was that I can not beilive in the concept of God/god(s). Then the way I view some gods, how I view reality, and the lack of appeal and evidence..... just to be brief.
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One approach is to suggest simple yet convincing experiments anyone could comprehend. For instance, say to someone, "Consider this the next time you are looking up at the moon or the stars on a clear night; could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect it would hit the ground and on impact it would not shatter, but it would divide up into little small drinking glasses, with iced tea in them?
from GODALLAH.COM
 
ATHEISTofPEACE said:
I did but the main reason was that I can not beilive in the concept of God/god(s). Then the way I view some gods, how I view reality, and the lack of appeal and evidence..... just to be brief.
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Another example is have them consider what might happen if a tornado came through a junkyard and tore through the old cars; would it leave behind a nice new Mercedes with the engine running and no parts left around?
 
Umar^111 said:
One approach is to suggest simple yet convincing experiments anyone could comprehend. For instance, say to someone, "Consider this the next time you are looking up at the moon or the stars on a clear night; could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect it would hit the ground and on impact it would not shatter, but it would divide up into little small drinking glasses, with iced tea in them?
from GODALLAH.COM
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How does this help? I fully missed the point.
 
We just begin with simple logic. When something is right in front of our eyes it is difficult to deny it, right? Asking rhetorical questions can be very helpful in presenting our case. Begin by asking the question; "Can you prove you exist?" Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine what you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things He has created and the way He cares for things and sustains us, to know there is no doubt of His existence.
 
Umar^111 said:
Another example is have them consider what might happen if a tornado came through a junkyard and tore through the old cars; would it leave behind a nice new Mercedes with the engine running and no parts left around?
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Thats not at all how evolution works. Don't use the tired and beat canards on me. I have a great understanding of the process and this is not it at all.
 
Or ask someone to consider what it would be like if someone told us about a fast food restaurant operating itself without any people there? The food just cooks itself, files from the kitchen to the table and then when we are done, the dishes jump back the kitchen to wash themselves. This is too crazy for anyone to even think about.

After reflecting on all of the above, how could we look to the universe above us through a telescope or observe the cells in a microscope and then think all of this came about as a result of a "big bang" or some "accident"?
 
Umar^111 said:
We just begin with simple logic. When something is right in front of our eyes it is difficult to deny it, right? Asking rhetorical questions can be very helpful in presenting our case. Begin by asking the question; "Can you prove you exist?" Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine what you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things He has created and the way He cares for things and sustains us, to know there is no doubt of His existence.
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I do not see that when I look around me.
 

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