Has Your 'God' ever dined on swine?

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I love your observations..

1-Do you find pigs offensive? I thought they were cute little creatures that you are by religious order allowed to eat?
2-Did any one bait you to reply to the topic?

all the best
 
interestingly enough, I had seen an anti-Islamic shirt with the logo:

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which actually prompted me to start the thread, has your God declared war by dinning on Swine?

seems perfectly legitimate, considering what Christians do and allege.. or is it only offensive when someone questions back? a double hypocrisy doesn't nullify itself peaceful ones!

all the best
 
Greetings and peace be with you Gossamer skye;

interestingly enough, I had seen an anti-Islamic shirt with the logo:

6eb5_1JPG-1.jpg

which actually prompted me to start the thread, has your God declared war by dinning on Swine?

seems perfectly legitimate, considering what Christians do and allege.. or is it only offensive when someone questions back? a double hypocrisy doesn't nullify itself peaceful ones!

all the best
We can pray for each other, I am so sorry these things happen in the name of Christianity. At some point we shall all have to stand before the same God, my prayers are that he can forgive us all for the things we do to each other.

Blessings and peace be with you all

Eric
 
Greetings, Skye

I love your observations..

1-Do you find pigs offensive? I thought they were cute little creatures that you are by religious order allowed to eat?
No, I don't find pigs offensive.
I thought the choice of the word 'swine', rather than 'pig' or 'pork' was interesting - it seems to have much more neggtive connotations.

2-Did any one bait you to reply to the topic?
No. I entered it out of my own free will. :)

But why do you feel the need to bait? What is the point?



interestingly enough, I had seen an anti-Islamic shirt with the logo:

6eb5_1JPG-1.jpg

which actually prompted me to start the thread, has your God declared war by dinning on Swine?

seems perfectly legitimate, considering what Christians do and allege.. or is it only offensive when someone questions back? a double hypocrisy doesn't nullify itself peaceful ones!

all the best
The comment on that T-shirt is highly offensive, and clearly intends to be exactly that!

I understand if it has caused you upset, and I am sorry that there are Christians who carry such anger and hatred!

Peace
 
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Greetings, Skye
Greetings!
No, I don't find pigs offensive.
Great!
I thought the choice of the word 'swine', rather than 'pig' or 'pork' was interesting - it seems to have much more nragtive connotations.
Seems popular enough to put on shirts?!

No. I entered it out of my own free will. :)
Great
But why do you feel the need to bait? What is the point?
Where have I asserted my 'need to bait'?
The comment on that T-shirt is highly offensive, and clearly intends to be exactly that!
Indeed
I understand if it has caused you upset, and I am sorry that there are Christians who would carry such anger and hatred!
I'd say the great majority carry that anger and hatred whether overt or covert..

all the best
 
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as an addendum .. pls try to refrain from using such terms as 'you must carry or feel or or' followed by assertion made about my person... it would in the least need to come in a seven-step-wise fashion to appear slightly sincere.. Do you think I was born yesterday? better yet, Do you know me?

all the best
 
No one is forcing you you to partake into this thread or telling you what you believe, you have stated clearly what you believe and we have pointed out where it is flawed-- this should really serve as a reminder for the fundies on board (follower, Alapiana, Seeker, fedos, ab, and the rest) how easily Christianity can be dismantled before they get too ambitious!


all the best

I agree whole Heartedly, We don't tell you what christians believe, You tell us what christians believe and we merely state the contradictions and misconceptions in the hope that you and others that visit this site might come to the true teachings of jesus PBUH which is to worship the ONE true GOD, the creator of the heavens and the earth. Its a duty that we muslims owe Jesus so that his message and hard work doesn't just die in waste.
 
Did you hear about Egypt killing all the pigs because of the swine flu?!? LOL!!

GOD made His WORD incarnate to fufill His Law and offer one final sacrifice of a perfect being to pay the debt for all the sins committed by all mankind.

When Jesus didn't follow the Law He taught what is really needed from us, clean hearts- not outward rituals and deeds. Those don't purify our thoughts.

I see Islam as being very concerned about outward rituals and deeds.
 
Did you hear about Egypt killing all the pigs because of the swine flu?!? LOL!!
Did you hear they are canning the killed swine and exporting it to America given how much you love it? LOL
GOD made His WORD incarnate to fufill His Law and offer one final sacrifice of a perfect being to pay the debt for all the sins committed by all mankind.
Did your God dine on swine? the above doesn't answer the Q

When Jesus didn't follow the Law He taught what is really needed from us, clean hearts- not outward rituals and deeds. Those don't purify our thoughts.
Did Jesus your God break the OT law and eat piggies? because the way the world sees it, you are filthy in food and in outward habits
I see Islam as being very concerned about outward rituals and deeds.
You need to only concern yourself with how you'll have your swine this evening!

all the best
 
I don't eat pork, I'm mostly vegetarian, with ocassional chicken.

I was answering other posters.

We don't know if Jesus ate pork or not. It is not mentioned in the Holy Bible.

Gossamer- what makes you so grouchy? Have you been hurt by someone?
 
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I don't eat pork, I'm mostly vegetarian, with ocassional chicken.
why are you so defensive about prohibitions that your religion neglected?
I was answering other posters.
yet quoting me in the process.. strange no?

We don't know if Jesus ate pork or not. It is not mentioned in the Holy Bible.
Once you know for certain whether or not your God ate pork do come share it!

Gossamer- what makes you so grouchy? Have you been hurt by someone?
It relaxes me!


all the best
 
why are you so defensive about prohibitions that your religion neglected?

Not sure what you mean here.

Once you know for certain whether or not your God ate pork do come share it!

well we know that the 100% GOD would not need to eat, but whther the 100% human ate pork don't know and never will. You seem very concerned about this?!?
 
why are you so defensive about prohibitions that your religion neglected?

Not sure what you mean here.

Once you know for certain whether or not your God ate pork do come share it!

well we know that the 100% GOD would not need to eat, but whther the 100% human ate pork don't know and never will. You seem very concerned about this?!?

isn't it amazing your God wouldn't need to eat yet accursed the tree for not bearing him fruit?... shouldn't God know what he created?

I am not concerned at all, as your paganist beliefs don't concern me personally.. I just want it out in the open!

happy evangelizing :smile:
 
This is a great example of Jesus teaching/showing His disciples how Israel had failed to produce good fruit-look at the horrible things going on in the Temple.

Mark 11

15On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written:
" 'My house will be called
a house of prayer for all nations'? But you have made it 'a den of robbers.'"

18The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him, because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.

19When evening came, they went out of the city.

20In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21Peter remembered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!"
22"Have faith in God," Jesus answered. 23"I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. 24Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. 25And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins."
 
I don't eat pork, I'm mostly vegetarian, with ocassional chicken.

I was answering other posters.

We don't know if Jesus ate pork or not. It is not mentioned in the Holy Bible.

Gossamer- what makes you so grouchy? Have you been hurt by someone?

I agree with follower here, Jesus was a human expression of god there you have it.

As for the ''ever dined on swine'' part, Jesus also said that it is what comes out of the mouth that make men impur and not what goes in the body, therefor swine= not impure. Its a weird rule actually ''not being allowed to dine on swine''

can someone give me the use of this rule?
''For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.''
And all of thses rules he broke because the jews were in Darkness they would ''wash the outside of the cup but not the inside''


Regards.
 
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How much of the commandments did this alleged God break?
1-unusual brand of prayers
2-no circumcision for males
3- ok to eat pigs
4-Ok to make idols in churches and bow before them
5--ok to forgo monotheism and logic all together...
6- Ok to sin, since sin is forgiven through his self-immolation

1 - He was willing to pray with prostitutes and tax-collecters which was pretty unusual.

2 - Circumcision was NEVER required for Gentiles. As such, even Jesus' JEWISH disciples had no qualms telling Gentiles that it was unnecessary for them.

3 - Jesus said that it is what comes out of a man, not what goes in, which makes him unclean.

4 - An idol is something worshipped as God. I don't worship any cross, icon or stained-glass window as God...

5 - Christians are STRICTLY monotheist. "Trinity in Unity and Unity in Trinity", see my thread.

6 - Not a Christian teaching. St. Paul wrote one of his letters to combat such a philosophy which has sprung up in Corinth.
 
This is a great example of Jesus teaching/showing His disciples how Israel had failed to produce good fruit-look at the horrible things going on in the Temple.

Mark 11

15On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written:
" 'My house will be called
a house of prayer for all nations'? But you have made it 'a den of robbers.'"

18The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him, because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.

19When evening came, they went out of the city.

20In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21Peter remembered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!"
22"Have faith in God," Jesus answered. 23"I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. 24Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. 25And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins."

actually this is an example of how the Jews weren't in up keeping with their own commandments and Jesus a messenger for the Jews came to uphold it!.. so you have nullified your own point.
You are not supposed to sell goods in the house of God, it is only to be taken for worship not scheme and make money.. further should confirm to you the fact that he came to uphold the moral code of the OT (of those who have gone astray) not to abrogate it!

try again

all the best and happy evangelizing!
 
1 - He was willing to pray with prostitutes and tax-collecters which was pretty unusual.
Why is it unusual to pay for someone who can't make payment. Or is forced into a life style beyond his choice?

2 - Circumcision was NEVER required for Gentiles. As such, even Jesus' JEWISH disciples had no qualms telling Gentiles that it was unnecessary for them.
Show me the part where Jesus says, Don't circumcise or that 'I am the messenger of the gentiles"

3 - Jesus said that it is what comes out of a man, not what goes in, which makes him unclean.
Actually it was Paul who said that not Jesus!

4 - An idol is something worshipped as God. I don't worship any cross, icon or stained-glass window as God...
A statue of Jesus is a material effigy that is worshiped and that is the very definition of an Idol, further exacerbated by the fact that he never actually said I am your God so worship me!
5 - Christians are STRICTLY monotheist. "Trinity in Unity and Unity in Trinity", see my thread.
There is NO monotheism in reincarnation, or a God in multiple forms!

6 - Not a Christian teaching. St. Paul wrote one of his letters to combat such a philosophy which has sprung up in Corinth.
You have 'st' Paul to thank for many things then.. and one wonders why such threads as 'who is the founder of Christianity' receive such shock by the percentage Paul holds as its founder!

all the best
 
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