Have Bush and Blair increased terrorism by their actions

[minaz]

Stupidity

 

[Zafar]

Thank you Hash.
There are too many watered down Muslims in this world, who ignore our brothers and sisters and our mothers and fathers being killed all over the world.
100,000 killed in Iraq
100,000 killed in Afghanistan
in Chechnya
In Palestine
in Bosnia
in Kashmir
Yes thats right Muslim brothers and sisters shall I go on.....
Why do you cry for the 50 killed in London.
There will be a 2 minute silence to remember the victims on Thursday.
Where is the 2 minute silence for all the Muslim women and children killed by Blair and Bush.
Is you theory that you sit and watch our Muslims being humiliated everyday without any action?

 

[minaz]

Thanks for informing me about the 2 minute silence - never knew that. Anywho will you exercise the rememberence?

 

[Muezzin]

Thank you Hash.
There are too many watered down Muslims in this world, who ignore our brothers and sisters and our mothers and fathers being killed all over the world.
100,000 killed in Iraq
100,000 killed in Afghanistan
in Chechnya
In Palestine
in Bosnia
in Kashmir
Yes thats right Muslim brothers and sisters shall I go on.....
Why do you cry for the 50 killed in London.
There will be a 2 minute silence to remember the victims on Thursday.
Where is the 2 minute silence for all the Muslim women and children killed by Blair and Bush.
Is you theory that you sit and watch our Muslims being humiliated everyday without any action?

To put it bluntly: what have you done about it? Seriously. I've had enough of certain individuals sending other Muslims on guilt trips simply for disagreeing. What action do you suggest? I'm listening.

 

[Nakisai]

i think that if it because some Musilm feel like the usa is trying to change the way we as Musilm live and do things. some thimes I feel the same way but than I think how much harm can they do? because what they do to us here. will be nothing to what they will face on Judgement day. do you agree? so people as Muslim should not kill in the way that they have its a boodly mess and they needed to know what they are doing is not justify by their way of thinking.

 

[Nakisai]

Thank you Hash.
There are too many watered down Muslims in this world, who ignore our brothers and sisters and our mothers and fathers being killed all over the world.
100,000 killed in Iraq
100,000 killed in Afghanistan
in Chechnya
In Palestine
in Bosnia
in Kashmir
Yes thats right Muslim brothers and sisters shall I go on.....
Why do you cry for the 50 killed in London.
There will be a 2 minute silence to remember the victims on Thursday.
Where is the 2 minute silence for all the Muslim women and children killed by Blair and Bush.
Is you theory that you sit and watch our Muslims being humiliated everyday without any action?

so true but yet sooo sad :wilted_ro

 

[imaad_udeen]

100,000 killed in Iraq
100,000 killed in Afghanistan

M.O. = inflate casualties to justify terrorism?

 

[Nablus]

Terror who export this expression to the world The jews first when they considered freedom fighters in Palestin as terrorists

All of us know the black history of Britain in the Middle-east .The british people are the terrorists because they elected Tony so they deserve that.They could force The british army to get out from Iraq.Because .

what did the british do with our sisters and brothers in Iraq?!!!!!!!!!something shamefull let them cry and weep like our families in Iraq and Palestine


Yesterday they stepped on the noble Quran in Israel and America
who condemned no one!
they claim that they respect religions but its just apropaganda
But we are the first people who condemn what ever is the action

because we are very weak. say the truth what ever is the result


Britain get out from Iraq and dont support Zionism u will be safe

 

[Nakisai]

M.O. = inflate casualties to justify terrorism?

I don't think that he said that to Justify Terrorism
but to say that we have became like them and some many ways. so do 9/11 justifty The MILLIONS who are dieing now as we are on this forum? did Bush ever say that their was Musilms who was killed in 9/11???

 

[Muezzin]

Terror who export this expression to the world The jews first when they considered freedom fighters in Palestin as terrorists

All of us know the black history of Britain in the Middle-east .The british people are the terrorists because they elected Tony so they deserve that.

Really? So, because I'm British, I'm a terrorist? Please do not make such sweeping statements - plenty of people did not vote for Tony Blair (myself included), but unfortunately it just was not enough.

Yesterday they stepped on the noble Quran in Israel and America
who condemned no one!

Let the ignorant do as they will. They will receive the punishments of the Hereafter.

 

[imaad_udeen]

I don't think that he said that to Justify Terrorism
but to say that we have became like them and some many ways. so do 9/11 justifty The MILLIONS who are dieing now as we are on this forum?

huh?

did Bush ever say that their was Musilms who was killed in 9/11???

Bush remarks on Islam:

# "Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America."

Remarks by President George W. Bush in a statement to reporters during a meeting with U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan
The Oval Office, Washington, DC
November 13, 2002

# "We see in Islam a religion that traces its origins back to God's call on Abraham. We share your belief in God's justice, and your insistence on man's moral responsibility. We thank the many Muslim nations who stand with us against terror. Nations that are often victims of terror, themselves."

President Hosts Iftaar Dinner
Remarks by the President at Iftaar Dinner
State Dining Room

# "Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy doesn't follow the great traditions of Islam. They've hijacked a great religion."

Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan
Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.
October 11, 2002

# "Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion."

Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan
Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.
October 11, 2002

# "All Americans must recognize that the face of terror is not the true faith -- face of Islam. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It's a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It's a faith based upon love, not hate."

President George W. Bush Holds Roundtable with Arab and Muslim-American Leaders
Afghanistan Embassy, Washington, D.C.
September 10, 2002

# "If liberty can blossom in the rocky soil of the West Bank and Gaza, it will inspire millions of men and women around the globe who are equally weary of poverty and oppression, equally entitled to the benefits of democratic government. I have a hope for the people of Muslim countries. Your commitments to morality, and learning, and tolerance led to great historical achievements. And those values are alive in the Islamic world today. You have a rich culture, and you share the aspirations of men and women in every culture. Prosperity and freedom and dignity are not just American hopes, or Western hopes. They are universal, human hopes. And even in the violence and turmoil of the Middle East, America believes those hopes have the power to transform lives and nations."

President George W. Bush Calls for New Palestinian Leadership
The Rose Garden, Washington, D.C.
June 24, 2002

# "When it comes to the common rights and needs of men and women, there is no clash of civilizations. The requirements of freedom apply fully to Africa and Latin America and the entire Islamic world. The peoples of the Islamic nations want and deserve the same freedoms and opportunities as people in every nation. And their governments should listen to their hopes."

Remarks by the President George W. Bush at the 2002 Graduation Exercise of the United States Military Academy
West Point, New York
June 1, 2002

# "America rejects bigotry. We reject every act of hatred against people of Arab background or Muslim faith America values and welcomes peaceful people of all faiths -- Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, Hindu and many others. Every faith is practiced and protected here, because we are one country. Every immigrant can be fully and equally American because we're one country. Race and color should not divide us, because America is one country."

President George W. Bush Promotes Compassionate Conservatism
Parkside Hall, San Jose, California
April 30, 2002

# "We're taking action against evil people. Because this great nation of many religions understands, our war is not against Islam, or against faith practiced by the Muslim people. Our war is a war against evil. This is clearly a case of good versus evil, and make no mistake about it -- good will prevail."

Remarks by the President George W. Bush at a Town Hall Meeting with Citizens of Ontario
Ontario Convention Center, Ontario, California
January 5, 2002

# "Eid is a time of joy, after a season of fasting and prayer and reflection. Each year, the end of Ramadan means celebration and thanksgiving for millions of Americans. And your joy during this season enriches the life of our great country. This year, Eid is celebrated at the same time as Hanukkah and Advent. So it's a good time for people of these great faiths, Islam, Judaism and Christianity, to remember how much we have in common: devotion to family, a commitment to care for those in need, a belief in God and His justice, and the hope for peace on earth."

Remarks by the President in Honor of Eid Al-Fitr
The Diplomatic Reception Room
December 17, 2001

# "The teachings of many faiths share much in common. And people of many faiths are united in our commitments to love our families, to protect our children, and to build a more peaceful world. In the coming year, let us resolve to seize opportunities to work together in a spirit of friendship and cooperation. Through our combined efforts, we can end terrorism and rid our civilization of the damaging effects of hatred and intolerance, ultimately achieving a brighter future for all."

President's Message for Eid al-Fitr
December 13, 2001

# "According to Muslim teachings, God first revealed His word in the Holy Qur'an to the prophet, Muhammad, during the month of Ramadan. That word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements."

Remarks by the President George W. Bush At Iftaar Dinner
The State Dining Room, Washington, D.C.
November 19, 2001

# "The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur'an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace."

President George W. Bush's Message for Ramadan
November 15, 2001

# "This new enemy seeks to destroy our freedom and impose its views. We value life; the terrorists ruthlessly destroy it. We value education; the terrorists do not believe women should be educated or should have health care, or should leave their homes. We value the right to speak our minds; for the terrorists, free expression can be grounds for execution. We respect people of all faiths and welcome the free practice of religion; our enemy wants to dictate how to think and how to worship even to their fellow Muslims."

President George W. Bush Addresses the Nation
World Congress Center, Atlanta, Georgia
November 8, 2001

# "All of us here today understand this: We do not fight Islam, we fight against evil."

Remarks by President George W. Bush to the Warsaw Conference on Combating Terrorism
November 6, 2001

# "I have assured His Majesty that our war is against evil, not against Islam. There are thousands of Muslims who proudly call themselves Americans, and they know what I know -- that the Muslim faith is based upon peace and love and compassion. The exact opposite of the teachings of the al Qaeda organization, which is based upon evil and hate and destruction."

Remarks by President George W. Bush and His Majesty King Abdullah of Jordan
The Oval Office, Washington, D.C.
September 28, 2001

# "Americans understand we fight not a religion; ours is not a campaign against the Muslim faith. Ours is a campaign against evil."

President George W. Bush Remarks by the President to Airline Employees
O'Hare International Airport, Chicago, Illinois
September 27, 2001

"The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them."

President George W. Bush's Address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People
United States Capitol, Washington, D.C.
September 20, 2001

# "I've made it clear, Madam President, that the war against terrorism is not a war against Muslims, nor is it a war against Arabs. It's a war against evil people who conduct crimes against innocent people."

Remarks by President George W. Bush and President Megawati of Indonesia
The Oval Office, Washington, D.C.
September 19, 2001

# "The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war."

Remarks by the President at Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.
Washington, D.C.
September 17, 2001

 

[Nakisai]

thank you for that

 

[Z]

Asalamu Alaikum

All those remarks that Bush makes, he doesn't even know anything about. He voices from an ear piece. And he's a darn good liar too, you actually believe it's not a war against Islam and is a war against terror? He did say there was mass WMDs in Iraq, looks like there wasn't. Now the kids scream we had to bomb tens and thousands of innocent Iraqi women and kids just because Saddam was going to kill my daddy. Umph!

Interesting. He saw the women in Afghanistan in oppression, what about the women in Suadi Arabia? They don't have much freedom, why doesn't he go free them?

The prophet SAW said a drop of Muslim blood is worth MORE than the Kaba itself! (?) Wake up!

We feel for the innocents of 9/11 and in London a few days ago, did you even think about the blood of Kashmiris and Chechnyians when their blood was spilt? The blood of Muslims in India when they were attacked by the hindus? How they cut them into pieces and burnt them alive! We didn't see Bush going to stop that terror did we? No, 'cos he's not after realy world peace. All he wants is world domination.

I pray that if Allah does not want to guide these savage kufar, and if none of them are going to be guided, then may he finish them all and fill His earth with people of peace and tranquil.

I hate not to make sense, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Zafar]

Its not about what little I've done or what little you've done.
It's about the 50 that died in London, and how some people are disgusted by this and turn a blind eye to Muslim victims all over the world everyday.
For instance why is there no outrage and a thread started on this bulletin board for the apartheid wall circling Jerusalem!

 

[Muezzin]

Its not about what little I've done or what little you've done.
It's about the 50 that died in London, and how some people are disgusted by this and turn a blind eye to Muslim victims all over the world everyday.

Okay. I understand you now. Bear in mind that the Western media is 'selective' of what it reports, so it's not always the citizens' fault.

For instance why is there no outrage and a thread started on this bulletin board for the apartheid wall circling Jerusalem!

Good question. Have you tried searching for one? If there's not already a thread about it, make one.

 

[Zafar]

Starting a thread wont achieve anything. Its not about what little I do.
I don't want to talk about 50 people dying in London.
This event is insignificant.
There will be more of the same soon.
In conclusion there is no justification in getting excited about the London bombings.
This will be the norm.

 

[Muezzin]

That's an awfully depressing standpoint to take, brother Zafar. Bear in mind also that several Muslims were killed in this attack. I personally think loss of any human life is an extremely sad event.

At the same time, we should be positive and look for ways to achieve peace.

 

[Zafar]

Yes it is... very sad. I'm glad we agree on that. I am not belittling any loss of life, what I am saying is the attack is to be expected bearing in mind this countries foreign policy.
And the attack in London should be put into context of attacks on Muslims around the world.
2 min silence for 50 and nothing for 100,000 and so on.....
I'm sorry but it is a fact that until this country returns land back to the Muslims and withdraws troops from Arab lands and justice prevails in Palestine these attacks will continue as ordered by Allah SWT.

 

[Abubakar]

Shariah must be implemented.
This is incumbent on all Muslims.
After which everyone will be protected Muslim or Non Muslim.
To implement Shariah will be bloody.
The Kuffaar refuse to live under Shariah, this is the problem,
Its irelevant how many Muslims believe this.

Brother

I see that you do not wish to answer my question.

Peace

 

[Muezzin]

I see where you're coming from, brother Zafar. You must understand that all this 2 minutes silence and whatnot is more a result of such an event happening so close to home than people not caring about Muslims dying worldwide.

I do agree Palestine is a key issue here. I also think the Western governments should initiate a dialogue of sorts with whoever this group or groups may be, rather than fighting fire with fire. As Ghandi said, 'An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind'.

Of course, our Governments probably won't do that, since it's the right thing to do. Unfortunately the right thing is hardly ever the most profitable.