He cannot lower his gaze because there are too many women

[Ummu Sufyaan]

i dont really like posting things like this, as i dont feel its my place to :hmm: but for the sake of benefit.

He cannot lower his gaze because there are too many women​

I live in a non-Muslim country and I cannot lower my gaze because there are too many uncovered women around me.

Praise be to Allaah.

Lowering the gaze is of two types, one which a person can do and which he has no excuse for not doing, which means not repeatedly looking at women or deliberately looking at them. This is something that he can do, and it is obligatory upon him, I mean not repeatedly looking at women or deliberately looking at them, because it is within his capabilities, and it makes no difference whether he is in a country where there is a great deal of unveiling or not.

The second type is something that a person cannot avoid, and it is an accidental glance, where he sees a woman but he does not look repeatedly at her or look deliberately; rather he carries on his way. This will not harm him and he is not sinning thereby, because it is beyond his control. This, and Allaah knows best, is the reason why Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things)” [al-Noor 24:30]. In the original Arabic the literal meaning is “lower some of the gaze” which means that lowering the gaze completely is not obligatory and it is something that is beyond a person’s control, or what is required in cases of necessity, such as a doctor looking at his patient and so on, or when a man looks at the woman to whom he wants to propose marriage. End quote.

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[Raziah]

Alsalam alikum,

It is really good thread.
I think even women should lower their gaze,it is not easy, but also it is not difficult.

 

['Abd Al-Maajid]

Yes women should also lower their gaze. Yesterday I was in a wedding and there was music and dancing in the lawn. It was a huge wedding with lots of men dancing to a loud music. The most deviant behavior was shown by women. They were on the balcony of the villa and were watching the non-mahram men dancing....:raging::raging::raging:

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

Yes women should also lower their gaze. Yesterday I was in a wedding and there was music and dancing in the lawn. It was a huge wedding with lots of men dancing to a loud music. The most deviant behavior was shown by women. They were on the balcony of the villa and were watching the non-mahram men dancing....:raging::raging::raging:

please...

the men shouldnt be dancing with loud music where everyone including women can see them. If you ask me, they were the most deviant...opening the door to fitna...

 

['Abd Al-Maajid]

^ I agree. I know music is haraam, people here are stupid.

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

Yes women should also lower their gaze. Yesterday I was in a wedding and there was music and dancing in the lawn. It was a huge wedding with lots of men dancing to a loud music. The most deviant behavior was shown by women. They were on the balcony of the villa and were watching the non-mahram men dancing....:raging::raging::raging:

i agree that women should lower their gazes as well as that is what is prescribed by the shariah...however,

what were you doing watching the ladies watching the men dancing? and how do you know that they were watching them in that way anyway. see this

 

['Abd Al-Maajid]

i agree that women should lower their gazes as well as that is what is prescribed by the shariah...however,

what were you doing watching the ladies watching the men dancing? and how do you know that they were watching them in that way anyway. see this

Well well....I never said that they were watching men in this way or that way. I just said they were just watching. Anyways thanks for the link.

 

[tango92]

the main problem is not one or two stray females on the street, any1 can lower their gaze easily. and you know once you start lowering your gaze they seem to be everywhere.

the problem is if you go to college, the park, a shop where every single direction you look you get women. so you divert your gaze form one only to fall upon another, and eventually your back to the one you originally lowered your gaze from. facepalm.

the only safe place is up!

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

Aslaamu`Alaaykum. .

^Astagfirullaah, "some" weddings these days:-\

Jazakallahu Khaayr sis Umm sufyaan for the great reminder! Its great to remind ourselves constantly about these things.
Yes sometimes it may be hard but its not too hard if you make yourself practice how not to look! Fighting against the Shaytaan is also not something easy but for some very easy, but thats because they learn to control their nafs!

Notice how Allaah commands the believing Men to lower their gaze first, then the believing Women.

Wa Alaaykum Salaam

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

I thought the Brother meant look up to lower you gaze :-\

thats funny imagining some brother or sister walking past you looking up but SubhaanAllaah

Its better to look down, and lowering your gaze doesnt always mean looking down, it can also mean looking away, dont walk that way if you feel uncomfortable, etc etc you get it Insha`Allaah . .

 

['Abd Al-Maajid]

^Imagine this, while looking up you are stepping on a dog's tail. LOL Or in worst case collide with another person of opposite gender.

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

why is it so hard for you lot to lower your gaze..it isnt hard at all.

 

[FatimaAsSideqah]

As salaam alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh

It is not difficulty to lower your gaze! Shaytan is constantly tempting us to glare at her/him with evil thoughts. Shaytan is probably excitingly saying, with a big smile, 'yes, yes, yes,' when we steer into the bait he is setting. During these situations, immediately and consciously realize that when we give a second or following glances, we are obeying Shaytan. Astagfirullah!!

"O you who believe, follow not the footsteps of the devil". (24:21). By immediately averting our gazes and disobeying Shaytan, we are giving him a one-two punch in the face and leaving him frustrated and accursed.

So let's all rebel against Shaytan and expel him from our hearts! Remember that even if no human eye is watching us, the Ever-Watchful Allah is constantly monitoring the innermost regions of our hearts. Our eyes, limbs, tongue and private parts will be witnesses on the Judgment Day and not an atom's worth of deed will remain unexamined.

We take refuge (to seek protection from the evil threatening me) with the might of Allah. Ameen.

 

[Cabdullahi]

lol unless you are a teenager, there isnt real excuse to not to lower your gaze. By now you should have learnt to control your sexual urges. It shouldnt be hard at all. I mean you lot meant to work, set rules and lead the house and only gender that lead a country[/B] and allowed to become judges so inappropriate thoughts should be least on your mind. All these responsibilities and men are too weak to lower their gaze? I dont think so...

you are right! there is no room for inappropriate thoughts because a man who dwells in these thoughts is not a man he's an animal.

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

you are right! there is no room for inappropriate thoughts because a man who dwells in these thoughts is not a man he's an animal.

yeah exactly

 

[Cabdullahi]

yeah exactly

in the west some of the thoughts are pumped up by suggestive advertisments and other methods , it takes high concentration to repel these thoughts and not to dwell in them...the gruelling aspect of it makes most give in but only a few succeed to fight it completely....it becomes an incurable disease in the end if you dont fight it

 

[Karl]

Maybe it's best to wear sunglasses or a hooded black robe like the Sith wear.LOL. But if you live where there are a lot of Godless or Pagan half naked girls and women getting around why should you lower your gaze, are they really worthy of that much respect? Maybe lowering of the gaze is for the good Muslimah, as she dresses modestly.

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

ignorance,ignorance,ignorance madame step in our shoes for a day just for a day and the difficulty will be evident

All i was saying was its a difficult task but it becomes manageable if you follow what islam teaches

only a person totally oblivious of the difficulty will say ''its easy'',''It shouldnt be hard at all''and pose questions like ''why is it so hard''.you will not know because you're a woman.

3.14 Beautiful unto men is the life of lust for women,
and then you laughed,giggled and mocked by saying 'lol unless you are a teenager' the lust for women is not restricted to teenage years its for life

i agree with you there is no excuse for not lowering our gazes but we wont accept certain people's unawareness who still persist to say controllin sexual urges is easy especially when its coming from a woman in times when naked women are at the forefront promoting everything from biscuits to vehicles.

If you lot are that weak then why is that Allah (swt) has given so much responsibilities?

You make men sound weak and pathetic. Sex, sex is that all that goes through your mind when a woman is in front of you regardless how she is dressed? If this is the case, then you need help.


Woman has lust over men too…but both sexes should be able to control it, especially going through a period (adolescence) where the hormones were so high.


Such pathetic excuse is used to make women stay indoors 24/7.
Oh it “so hard”, get a grip because there is bigger purpose in life.

It shouldn’t be “manageable”; it should be easy for you by now and much easier after you are married.

Can you show me a popular packet of biscuit with naked women please?

 

[Muslimeen]

If you lot are that weak then why is that Allah (swt) has given so much responsibilities?

You make men sound weak and pathetic. Sex, sex is that all that goes through your mind when a woman is in front of you regardless how she is dressed? If this is the case, then you need help.


Woman has lust over men too…but both sexes should be able to control it, especially going through a period (adolescence) where the hormones were so high.


Such pathetic excuse is used to make women stay indoors 24/7.
Oh it “so hard”, get a grip because there is bigger purpose in life.

It shouldn’t be “manageable”; it should be easy for you by now and much easier after you are married.

Can you show me a popular packet of biscuit with naked women please?

Dear Sister,

I can understand your disgust and rightfully so, you are right to a certain extent and yes there is no reason for any man to justify his actions for not lowering his gaze, there simply is'nt any execuse, I agree whole heartedly.

I think you are misunderstanding brother Abdullahii. He is merely highlighting the difficulty of the task. It is indeed very difficult for men especially in the current environment it is not as easy as it may seem. Yes with the dedication and perserverance it is possible, and is the only way to go. However that does not mean the task is an easy one. Remember the Hadith of Rasullulah Sallalahu Allaihi Wassalam,

“I have not left behind me any fitnah (temptation) more harmful to men than women.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5096; Muslim, 2740.

Again I must stress, I am not condoning it in any way, just highlighting the difficulty of the task. Hence Allah Swt regularly speaks of the Hur Al Ayn in the quran, a motivation for men to stay away from evil, that is why the strict dress code of Hijaab for women in Islam.

I agree with brother Abdullahii, it is a difficult task, but remain steadfast brother, it is a constant battle. I normally don't like to speak about dreams but if it is going to assist another muslim brother then I suppose it's worth sharing. I had this dream a few years back, in which I saw the Sahaba of Rasullulah Sallalahu Allaihi Wassalam, Ameer Ul Mumineen Hadhrat Umar (RA), upon greeting him by shaking of the hand he said to me (Something to the effect):

"Fighting against the nafs is a constant battle, it never ends."

So wage jihad against your nafs and the temptations of this world brother, insha allah you will be victorious. Ameen

 

[tango92]

If you lot are that weak then why is that Allah (swt) has given so much responsibilities?

You make men sound weak and pathetic. Sex, sex is that all that goes through your mind when a woman is in front of you regardless how she is dressed? If this is the case, then you need help.


Woman has lust over men too…but both sexes should be able to control it, especially going through a period (adolescence) where the hormones were so high.


Such pathetic excuse is used to make women stay indoors 24/7.
Oh it “so hard”, get a grip because there is bigger purpose in life.

It shouldn’t be “manageable”; it should be easy for you by now and much easier after you are married.

Can you show me a popular packet of biscuit with naked women please?

that last question shouldnt have been posted. neway look at the story of yusuf as. now were talking about a prophet of Allah swt

12:23 And she, in whose house he was, asked of him an evil act. She bolted the doors and said: Come! He said: I seek refuge in Allah! Lo! he is my lord, who hath treated me honourably. Lo! wrong-doers never prosper.
12:24 She verily desired him, and he would have desired her if it had not been that he saw the argument of his Lord. Thus it was, that We might ward off from him evil and lewdness. Lo! he was of Our chosen slaves.

skipping ahead:

12:32 She said: This is he on whose account ye blamed me. I asked of him an evil act, but he proved continent, but if he do not my behest he verily shall be imprisoned, and verily shall be of those brought low.
12:33 He said: O my Lord! Prison is more dear than that unto which they urge me, and if Thou fend not off their wiles from me I shall incline unto them and become of the foolish.
12:34 So his Lord heard his prayer and fended off their wiles from him. Lo! He is Hearer, Knower.

so we learn even a prophet had difficulty with the fitna of women. although he does pass the trial sucessfully. and he went on to be a great leader of those people saving them from famine. so his sexual desire did not impede him (as we would expect).

the strength to resist evil comes from Allah swt, but you cannot deny the difficulty nonetheless.

i hope you will reconsider your position.