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[Goku]

Welcome Goku

Hope you benefit from your stay here, feel free to browse around and ask questions.

Here are some verses from the Holy Qur'an to be taken into consideration:

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Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred
- except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law).


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He that doeth good shall have ten times as much to his credit: He that doeth evil shall only be recompensed according to his evil: no wrong shall be done unto (any of) them.

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Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.

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O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).




Peace

 

[Pk_#2]

imsad You really hate us huh?:mmokay:

Peace and welcome to the forum,

I hate violence and terrorism:unhappy:

who said only Muslim arabs become terrorists ^o)

Looks like you know them inside out, you quite intimate with them then :-\

I don't see why people don't open there eyes a little, theres violence everywhere, coming from all directions, there are ignorent idiots in all religion that spoil it for everyone :hmm:

I'm just gonna get upset, so ima leave your thread now, i hope you have a nice day, i'm sorry you feel like that about our peaceful realigion,ffended:

May God guide you

Peace!

 

[Umm Khalid06]

[BANANA]welcome and enjoy your stay[/BANANA]
Saudi Arabia is right why build churches in macca and madina it is just not right

 

[Wolodyjowski]

imsad You really hate us huh?:mmokay:

Peace and welcome to the forum,

I hate violence and terrorism:unhappy:

who said only Muslim arabs become terrorists ^o)

Looks like you know them inside out, you quite intimate with them then :-\

I don't see why people don't open there eyes a little, theres violence everywhere, coming from all directions, there are ignorent idiots in all religion that spoil it for everyone :hmm:

I'm just gonna get upset, so ima leave your thread now, i hope you have a nice day, i'm sorry you feel like that about our peaceful realigion,ffended:

May God guide you

Peace!

I dont hate muslims of course. As Wafa Sultan said- "You can believe in your rocks until you dont throw them on me"
And its not tru that only muslim arabs become terrorists, also muslims from Indonesia, Philipinnes, India, Chechenia etc etc become terrorists.
I dont hate you so called " moderate muslims " , i just blame you that you dont do anything to stop your radical brothers and sisters.

 

[Wolodyjowski]

[BANANA]welcome and enjoy your stay[/BANANA]
Saudi Arabia is right why build churches in macca and madina it is just not right

You showed just your hypocrisy.Saudis spent millions of dollars to build mosques all over the world and the dont allow a single churche in their country.
If muslims were treated in Europe like christians are treated in Saudi Arabia you would call us europeans fascists and racists.Because man persecuting someone because of his faith is racism.Saudis are racists.

 

[Pk_#2]

I dont hate muslims of course. As Wafa Sultan said- "You can believe in your rocks until you dont throw them on me"
And its not tru that only muslim arabs become terrorists, also muslims from Indonesia, Philipinnes, India, Chechenia etc etc become terrorists.
I dont hate you so called " moderate muslims " , i just blame you that you dont do anything to stop your radical brothers and sisters.

It's easy to say, 'go and stop them'

If your so concerned why don't YOU stop them?

I'm doing my job by praying for them, and any victims that may be harmed God-Forbid!

Peace! imsad

 

[Pk_#2]

You showed just your hypocrisy.Saudis spent millions of dollars to build mosques all over the world and the dont allow a single churche in their country.
If muslims were treated in Europe like christians are treated in Saudi Arabia you would call us europeans fascists and racists.Because man persecuting someone because of his faith is racism.Saudis are racists.

Now your just assuming,

^^ that's your opinion, fair nuff

 

[Skywalker]

First of all, if Saudi Arabia is not allowing other religions to be practiced within its borders, it's not Islamic. The ideal Islamic state allows for the practice of other religions as long as the head of each family belonging to those other religions pays the jizya tax. Given that it's less than what the Muslims themselves pay as Zakat, there should never be any problem. If Saudi Arabia is not sticking to this rule, then they aren't following Islam properly. But then again, what government on this world IS?

 

[Umm Khalid06]

You showed just your hypocrisy.Saudis spent millions of dollars to build mosques all over the world and the dont allow a single churche in their country.
If muslims were treated in Europe like christians are treated in Saudi Arabia you would call us europeans fascists and racists.Because man persecuting someone because of his faith is racism.Saudis are racists.

ok if you are calling Saudis racists for protecting thier country and religion then that is what you think not everyone thinks like you do

 

[Skywalker]

I dont hate you so called " moderate muslims " , i just blame you that you dont do anything to stop your radical brothers and sisters.

I think that's the first justified thing you've said on this forum. Yes we do need to speak out against terrorism and try to do what we can to tell these people that they're wrong, but the West isn't helping us out very much are they?

By going to all-out war with these "terrorists" and killing hundreds of thousands of civilians in the process, they're not exactly making the so-called "moderate" Muslims sympathetic to their cause. Furthermore, by creating secret torture facilities throughout the world and establishing places like Guantanamo, where unconvicted Muslims have been held and tortured for the last 5 years, America has given very little reason for anyone who suspecs a terrorist in their midst to report them.

 

[Wolodyjowski]

ok if you are calling Saudis racists for protecting thier country and religion then that is what you think not everyone thinks like you do

Ok and what would you say then if suddenly all european countries started to protect christianity and country just like Saudi Arabia now?
-muslims couldnt build mosques in Europe then
-owning a Quaran = going to prison
-muslims could pray in homes only
-for islamic proselytising penalty is death.
Would you be happy then in muslims lived in Europe in such conditions?

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Are u kidding me? Which Western country has any generations of Muslims or old communities? None. Arab countries still have coptic Christians. What do u think about the issue with the veil? Why fear a peice of cloth?

 

[Wolodyjowski]

Are u kidding me? Which Western country has any generations of Muslims or old communities? None. Arab countries still have coptic Christians. What do u think about the issue with the veil? Why fear a peice of cloth?

Tayyaba now i think that you should read more books about european history.Please listen to me now ok. Muslim immigration began in Europe in the 60's of XX century so how would you want to see very old muslim communities in Europe while there are maybe 2 or maximum 3 generations of muslims in Europe.
Second thinks, you said copts, and havent you heard about persecution of copts in Egypt? Havent you heard about the events in Alexandria? Where muslims attacked christians in a churche. Actually i think that muslim women should wear what they want. But please Tayyaba put those things in perspective. How can you compare banning a veil in Europe with putting people to jail in Saudi Arabia only because of owning a Bible? Just think about it honestly please.

 

[Skywalker]

Ok and what would you say then if suddenly all european countries started to protect christianity and country just like Saudi Arabia now?
-muslims couldnt build mosques in Europe then
-owning a Quaran = going to prison
-muslims could pray in homes only
-for islamic proselytising penalty is death.
Would you be happy then in muslims lived in Europe in such conditions?

Actually, that's the way the world was until Islam came along, and allowed everyone to practice whatever religion they wanted as long as they paid the jizya. Like I said a few posts ago and you obviously didn't bother reading, if Saudi Arabia is not allowing another religion to be practiced within its borders, it is NOT following Islam correctly.

 

[Skywalker]

Second thinks, you said copts, and havent you heard about persecution of copts in Egypt? Havent you heard about the events in Alexandria? Where muslims attacked christians in a churche.

Dude, I LIVE in Egypt and some of my closest friends are Copts! What persecution are you talking about? Problems between Muslims and Copts in Egypt are very rare, but they do happen from time to time. The Alexandrian church you're referring to wasn't attacked, but a group of people staged a protest outside it because of a DVD they were spreading around about terrorism.

 

[Wolodyjowski]

Actually, that's the way the world was until Islam came along, and allowed everyone to practice whatever religion they wanted as long as they paid the jizya. Like I said a few posts ago and you obviously didn't bother reading, if Saudi Arabia is not allowing another religion to be practiced within its borders, it is NOT following Islam correctly.

And tell me Skywalker who are you to tell what is the correct islam? Tell me are you any islamic scholar who learned about islam for half of his life?
How old are you actually? Why should i believe you and not saudic scholars who learned about islam dozens of years? It sounds funny when you criticize the purest islamic country for not following islam directly.

 

[Fishman]

And tell me Skywalker who are you to tell what is the correct islam? Tell me are you any islamic scholar who learned about islam for half of his life?
How old are you actually? Why should i believe you and not saudic scholars who learned about islam dozens of years? It sounds funny when you criticize the purest islamic country for not following islam directly.

Saudi Arabia is not pure. It is run by a bunch of oil-lords who act like tyrannical dictators.

 

[Wolodyjowski]

Saudi Arabia is not pure. It is run by a bunch of oil-lords who act like tyrannical dictators.

The same questions that i asked Skywalker.

 

[aamirsaab]

You don't need to be a scholar to know that saudi is not the best Islamically ruled country. If it was, don't you think it would have a much larger muslim population, say of I don't know 1.8 billion?

 

[Fishman]

The same questions that i asked Skywalker.

You were the person that said that Saudi Arabia is the most pure Islamic country in the world. Which, as I just said, is not true. Somalia under the Islamic Courts was probably one of the most pure Muslim countries in the world. Unfortunately Ethiopia doesn't like bordering on a Sharia law country much, so they made up some trash about al-Queida living there and invaded the whole place.