Hello!

[nicelady]

Hello,

I like your choice of the word "best." It is far more acceptible to me than "only."

Happy New Year and thanks,
nicelady

 

[nicelady]

Dear Muslim Woman,

I do agree with almost all you stated in your response to me; however, my perspective is different. Where your response comes into dispute for me is one in your word "reward." I am not seeking reward from any source other than knowing I make others happy around me, that I am fair and loving and pure of heart. The other, and equally important reward is in liking myself, my actions and thoughts, in beating back any behaviors or thoughts I do not like in myself. I strive to be the best I can be, not for reward, but because it is a deep and sincere desire for me to be good. That is the reward in and of itself.
The other problem in the wording of your response is in limiting God to finding those who worship in the exact way you state. Why limit God's mercy to a creed? Why not consider that we are all finding goodness and one God in the way we do, not in a dictated way? The God in my heart does not see things so narrowly or matter of factly. He looks at the entire picture, not a small limited area.
These are only my personal thoughts and beliefs; in no way am I trying to say your way is not as correct.
Thank you for reading,
Nicelady

 

[nicelady]

Hello Gossamer,

Of course, I thought of this, and did expect that as a response and solution. It is true and matter of fact.

 

[Asiyah3]

I am new and did not want to post until I introduced myself. I will have a lot of questions so I hope everyone is patient with me. My husband is Muslim. I converted before I married him, but am no religion. I cannot accept that God/Allah is not for all people, not just persons of one religion. I find that idea that God/Allah can only be mericful to those of a particular religion unfair. I believe that God/Allah sees all good people the same, regardless of his or her religion.

Peace,

Welcome, It's great to have you here, nicelady:statisfie Insha'lLah, I hope you will get an answer to all your questions. Sister, it is very very wrong for you to stay with your husband, do you realize what kinda MAJOR sin you're making him do? I am very sorry, but if you care even a little about your husband, then you should think about the severe punishment of Allah. (I'm sorry that I might sound harsh, I know you are not a bad person.) Please, the best thing you can do is to leave him as long as you don't believe in Islam at the same time you could study and explore.

"For him is every good that he has done and against him is every evil he has committed" [Baqarah]

"Whoever does an atom's weight of good will see it, and whoever does an atom's weight of evil will see it." (99:7-8)

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“and My Mercy embraces all things” [al-A’raaf 7:156]

It was narrated that ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab said: “Some prisoners were brought to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and there was a woman among the prisoners who was searching (for her child). When she found her child she embraced him and put him to her breast. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to us, ‘Do you think that this woman would throw her child in the fire?’ We said, ‘No, by Allaah, not if she is able not to.’ The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘Allaah is more merciful to His slaves than this woman is to her child.’”
Al-Bukhaari, 5653; Muslim, 6912.

“And We have sent you (O Muhammad) not but as a mercy for the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists)”

“Declare (O Muhammad) unto My slaves, that truly, I am the Oft-Forgiving, the Most-Merciful."

 

[nicelady]

Hello Muslim,
How could I have ever been foolish enough to expect some kind of answer that was not either or? I am naive at best to even think a religious person could think outside their narrow box.
Thanks (and I am being totally sarcastic when I use the word "thanks") for your answer which gives more fuel to the impossibility for me to be any religion.
Just as I said, the one God I believe in would never ever judge like this. At least not my idea of God; you can have any vision of God you choose. That is freedom. But do not put me in your tiny box of either or.
I should not have posted here. Where is the middle ground?
As deluded as my husband chooses to be with his love and total devotion to me, who as he states is the best woman he ever knew or met in his life, at least he is able to see past the narrow box, even if he thinks he can't.
Peace be upon you and even more peace to those who can see past that narrow box.

 

[glo]

Dear Glo,

As I was writing to you, I was thinking the exact thing you stated in your response to me. Thank you for stating the obvious. I do tear myself to shreds in the attempt to find the ultimate truth in all things, and you stated the truth as I, with my philosophy towards God/Allah.
I will trust in the mercy of God in sincerest hopes that He is all I imagine Him to be in my heart.
Thank you, too, for your kind words and understanding of me as the kind of person I truly try to be,
Nicelady

Hi Nicelady

I believe the only way to grow in our faith and to walk with God, is to be honest in who we are and what we can/cannot believe.
Following a faith blindly, for the sake of others rather than God, hinders our spiritual growth, whereas being honest about our beliefs, questions and doubts helps us grow.
Well, I believe so anyway.

I am sure God delights in you!

 

[Asiyah3]

Hello Muslim,
How could I have ever been foolish enough to expect some kind of answer that was not either or? I am naive at best to even think a religious person could think outside their narrow box.
Thanks (and I am being totally sarcastic when I use the word "thanks") for your answer which gives more fuel to the impossibility for me to be any religion.
Just as I said, the one God I believe in would never ever judge like this. At least not my idea of God; you can have any vision of God you choose. That is freedom. But do not put me in your tiny box of either or.
I should not have posted here. Where is the middle ground?
As deluded as my husband chooses to be with his love and total devotion to me, who as he states is the best woman he ever knew or met in his life, at least he is able to see past the narrow box, even if he thinks he can't.
Peace be upon you and even more peace to those who can see past that narrow box.

I think you misundrestood me alot - I didn't mean it that way at all and I don't see things "either or" (nor did I certainly meant to put it black-and) as you stated. I am not a scholar nor can I say that I am too knowledgable, so I hope you won't take my words to heart. I hope I didn't push you farther from Islam,

I apologize, I should have putten my words in a better and gentlier tone, but briefly my point was like Gossamer Sky's

Perhaps I should have only stated that I agree with her

May Allah guide you :statisfie and I really hope you will stay here with us

 

[nicelady]

Dear Muslim,
Forgive me for my harsh words to you. I am the one who is wrong. I am coming to a forum for Islam. I am wrong to come here and then expect to find some "excuse" for wanting my opinion validated when it cannot be validated according to the teachings or beliefs of Islam. You are correct, according to Islam what I am doing is destroying my husband's chance for Al Janna. I am stupid and foolish to think that there is any way to find a way out of this Islamic fact.
Why discuss something that is impossible for me? I will choose to believe and remember Glo's kind and "out of the box" thinking.
You took me no further from Islam than I was or will ever be. It is not just Islam that turns me off; it is all religions. It is "either or" in all of them. You either believe and accept ALL of it, or you are ****ed to hell's fire forever.
That is unacceptible to me. God, at least my idea of God, is merciful, not petty and proud and arrogant enough to believe all people must fit into religious boxes. And forgive me for calling you or anyone else who does not think like I do as being "petty." I am sure you are a beautiful person with a good heart. You are just part of the indoctrination I abhor.
Thanks so much; I am the fool in speaking my opinion. You, and no one else, need to be inflicted with my thoughts. After all, and this is meant sincerely, who am I? Nothing!!! A few molecules on earth. As my husband tells me, I think I am privy to the mind of God, which is arrogant and selfish of me. So, in the end, I am the guilty one.

 

[nicelady]

Dear Glo,
The beauty and purity of your heart and thoughts are what I will take with me from this forum. Thank you for your ability to see past the edges of that box so many put around themselves. Yes, I got validation from you; perhaps that makes me a fool to come to a forum looking for validation. But, thank God for people like you.
Happiest healthiest, most blessed New Year to a beautiful soul, GLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/Peace

..limiting God to finding those who worship in the exact way you state.

I did not state it , it's the command of our Creator.

Chrisitianity , Islam , Judaism are the main 3 three religions in the world. Also Hinduism . If u read the holy books of these faith , u will find some wonderful similarities - God is one , don't take diety besides God and don't make statue or bow down in front of statues.

God created heavens for believers and the condition is one must not reject God. If one disobeys God , if one takes other dieties besides God , if one rejects Prophets of God , it means s/he is committing blasphemy . God stated that for this major sin - blasphemy , punishment is hellfire.

If one wants to please God , s/he should obey God by submitting himself/herself to God , by rejecting to obey His orders and rebelling against God like Satan/ devil did , how one can except His mercy ? PL. think logically.

May God guides you and us , Ameen.

 

[nicelady]

Hello,
Science and religion cannot be equated as science is bassed of "some" provable facts; religion is based and accepted accoring to faith, not provable fact.
Your choice to the word "right" when referring to Islam is interesting as well. I pity the poor saps who are born into a country or family with some other faith. Poor stupid fools ****ed to hell since they are not following the RIGHT path. Wow!!! the RIGHT path is being born into the right family or the right country. Religion is seldom a choice. It is location and family. It becomes a choice after adulthood, or the age of reason. If that "fool" does not happen to choose Islam, they are NOT right. Thanks for you point of view. It is no more "right," than mine. At least that is my opinion.

 

[جوري]

Hello Gossamer,

Of course, I thought of this, and did expect that as a response and solution. It is true and matter of fact.

It is generally my belief that it is best to take drastic steps as early as possible as to not cause everyone involved (you especially) undue pain, say if you have children or whatnot!

I don't think anyone on board can offer you better da3wa than your husband. If your heart can't accept it, then you shouldn't force yourself, as there is no compulsion in religion.

In a previous posts of your, you'd stated, how limiting yourself to one religion is judging others or believing that others are going to hell etc.
Well, no one here can guarantee a seat in heaven, we are hopeful of God's mercy... in fact I think the only guarantees so far have been sold by christians who believe that God has already paid for their sins.
we believe that Islam is the religion that always was, whether Jews or christians or sabeans or manadeans the call of any messenger was to call people to God, what people have done of their religions isn't really the fault of the messengers or favoritism on God's part rather the working of their own desires as you too have desires and inclinations. It isn't a matter of judging, it is simply a matter of which route to take to get you to your desired destination.
I'd like to ask the good people to stop swaying your opinion one way or the other, because this obviously concerns only you and your husband and it is something you have to honestly work with yourself and privately!

all the best

 

[Mr.President]

nicelady heres a nice welcome

welcome to IL

and be nice do nice

all the best

 

[nicelady]

Thank you for your kindness and wisdom. I will take your advice and keep these thoughts to myself. Happy New Year and Peace!!!!

 

[nicelady]

Dear Gossamer,

That last post was for you. Thank you so much for your kindness to me and wisdom. I will take your wise advice and keep these thoughts to myself. I must be strong and controlled for the sake of my beloved husband.
Do take care and love and peace!

 

[Rafeeq]

Dear Nicelady, Peace to be upon you.

I appreciate you are a nice soul and a concern individual.

In addition to what advised by Gomssamer, I would like to request you that you do pray Allah/God who is One for everybody, whom you believe in, to guide you to right path. In one of the posts above, you said, you are not praying, I will suggest you to pray since, it will turn your heart open to truth and then what ever it says, accept it, as there is nothing to accept by force in Islam.

My (and many other members on the forum) prayers are with you.