help me find stuff to wear pleeease

[iqbal_soofi]

For one "man," im not a man. God gave you eyes, use it please. I never said I was a religious scholar and yes I do chores in and outside my house without resorting to short clothing. Ive never in my life wore short shirts or shorts. What makes you think women in the time of the Prophet did not dress that way and do their house work? What makes you think women dont do it? You have serious issues generalizing everyone. You dont even KNOW me, so how dare you even bother assuming. The sister asked for advice in "finding" clothes, not resorting to "losing" clothes. Your definition of practical must be different from mine. Last time I checked, it included having some common sense.



Have you taken a good look at yourself lately? You just about fit the category.

I'm sorry for my misjudgement. I didn't look very deeply at your id. That's my fault. By the way from where did you learn this word 'generalizing'? It'd be much better if you learn its meaning too. You use (misuse) the English words like religious scholars do.

For example you suggest that there should be only one kind of dress for all ladies, young and old, fat and slim, tall or short, household or working, educated or illiterate, for inside or outside, for happy ocassions or sad anverseries. On the other hand I say that there should a differnt dress for differnt needs and different ocassions. Now who is trying to be specific and who is trying to generalize?

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/peace;

I saw a holy man on the seashore wounded by a tiger.

No medicine could relieve his pain; He suffered much,

but he nevertheless constantly thanked God, the most high, saying,

"Praise be to Allah that I have fallen into a calamity and not into sin.

--it's really wonderful...thanks for sharing :statisfie

now back to the topic

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[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

I'm sorry for my misjudgement. I didn't look very deeply at your id. That's my fault.

No problem.

By the way from where did you learn this word 'generalizing'? It'd be much better if you learn its meaning too. You use (misuse) the English words like religious scholars do.

For example you suggest that there should be only one kind of dress for all ladies, young and old, fat and slim, tall or short, household or working, educated or illiterate, for inside or outside, for happy ocassions or sad anverseries. On the other hand I say that there should a differnt dress for differnt needs and different ocassions. Now who is trying to be specific and who is trying to generalize?

Lol, we are talking about ONE sister here, who ru talking about? I never suggested anything, that is your own thinking. You suggested she dress according to how it would please others and so she does not make a fool of herself. You had me scared there cuz u spoke like only a hypocrite would, Astaghfirullah. I hope that you are not, Insha'Allah. We aren't here to please another human being, but Allah Subhana wa' ta'ala. How much she wants to cover is representative of her Hayaa.

 

[iqbal_soofi]

What started as an innocent thread about clothing has now turned into a heated debate about scholars. I feel for the original poster. Modz, where art though?




Not that I care about who thinks what about scholars. But in defence of snakes I will say not all snakes are dangerous. Nor are all scholars!


Now please stick to the topic. Shabaash bacho!

First of all I didn't bring the religious schlars into the debate. I never give them any importance at all. But when people run out of arguments, then they try to unleash the religious scholars on me. I know that they're all different from each other and they come from all different directions to put you down. But as a lay man I've only one defence against them. That is to expose them. Exposing the relgious scholars has the same affect as with exposing the termite which eats the wooden structures from inside rendering it hollow and useless. The ummah is hollow and useless these days. Thanks to the religious scholars make us shout hollow slogans and do nothing for our own development or welfare.

I agree 100% that all snakes are not poisonous. There's a very small fraction of snakes that are non poisonous. But you cannot take a risk to leave your children at the disposal of snakes on this assumption that all snakes are not poisonous.

 

[noodles]

I'm sorry for my misjudgement. I didn't look very deeply at your id. That's my fault. By the way from where did you learn this word 'generalizing'? It'd be much better if you learn its meaning too. You use (misuse) the English words like religious scholars do.

For example you suggest that there should be only one kind of dress for all ladies, young and old, fat and slim, tall or short, household or working, educated or illiterate, for inside or outside, for happy ocassions or sad anverseries. On the other hand I say that there should a differnt dress for differnt needs and different ocassions. Now who is trying to be specific and who is trying to generalize?

The prophet also said for women to cover themselves, therefore your argument to wear 'shorter' clothes is invalid. End of discussion.

I agree that there are different types of clothings for different occasions, but the point of utmost importance is for women to cover themselves. If the clothing doesn't adhere to that, than what is the point of it(Islamically)?

 

[snakelegs]

this is not to argue, but does the qur'an say anything about covering the legs? i thought the "awrah" was to the knees? :?

 

[iqbal_soofi]

The prophet also said for women to cover themselves, therefore your argument to wear 'shorter' clothes is invalid. End of discussion.

I agree that there are different types of clothings for different occasions, but the point of utmost importance is for women to cover themselves. If the clothing doesn't adhere to that, than what is the point of it(Islamically)?

That's a generalized statement.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Umm no its not :lol:

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

this is not to argue, but does the qur'an say anything about covering the legs? i thought the "awrah" was to the knees? :?

when we pray, i think our feet are also considered awrah in which case includes the legs. I think your talking bout in front of women. Anyway..WAY off topic now.

 

[Snowflake]

lol the mind boggles.. I'm outta here.. until I can bring some islamic clothing websites

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

www.silkrouteclothing.com
www.aljilbab.com
www.fashionsera.com
got some ok stuff dere...

 

[iqbal_soofi]

No problem.




Lol, we are talking about ONE sister here, who ru talking about? I never suggested anything, that is your own thinking. You suggested she dress according to how it would please others and so she does not make a fool of herself. You had me scared there cuz u spoke like only a hypocrite would, Astaghfirullah. I hope that you are not, Insha'Allah. We aren't here to please another human being, but Allah Subhana wa' ta'ala. How much she wants to cover is representative of her Hayaa.

Maybe you misunderstood me. My point is that we should keep in view the norms of our society, culture, weather, and working conditions while dressing up. I don't support wearing short clothes for women for the sake of showing themselves off. It's as bad as showing off with a lot of expensive clothes and jewlery. It should be the choice of the individuals how they dress up. But I like people who dress up decently. Some people don't look decent even when they wear long dresses and cover themselves. They use all kinds of tactics and methods to dominate others. These dominators and their dominated ones follow the same code of dress but there's nothing which can hide their indecency.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Thats why I say dont generalize brother. We dont know anyones intentions. And if thats really what u meant, u should have jus said it like that. What u had said before was kinda not right.
Anyways, back to topic?

Massalaama.

 

[siFilam]

this is not to argue, but does the qur'an say anything about covering the legs? i thought the "awrah" was to the knees? :?

awrah is different for man and woman. A man's awrah is from the bottom of the navel to the knees. While a woman's entire body is her awrah except her face and the outter and inner surface of her palms and soles. These parts of body must be covered. (Fundamental Worships in Islam)

regarding the woman's feet in Salah:

Are the feet included in the awrah of women? Are women allowed to wear for example slippers in public. Also must a woman cover her feet while performing salah?

Answer

The feet of a female is not part of her Awrah and neither is it necessary to
cover her feet in Salaat.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=0f87c26f15c052acad9978027c358f3a

and Allah knows best.

wasalam
-SI-

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^ :O thanks for clearin dat up. I read somewhere that your supposed too.
Allahu Alam.

 

[siFilam]

^^ :O thanks for clearin dat up. I read somewhere that your supposed too.
Allahu Alam.

I think in other Madhab like Shafi'i that woman must cover her feet during prayer. But I'm Hanafi and my answers were based on my school. If your school is different then you should check it out. Let us the know the answer b/c its good to know these differences.

and Allah knows best.
wasalam
-SI-

 

[siFilam]

:salamext:

I'm generalizing because I don't want to point out a few persons. It's a general trend that we've to see. When we see the areas where the religious scholars are growing more, we see the Muslims going more downwards and low not only economically, but morally as well.

If its the few scholars who u have problem then u need to mention them. As Muslims we don't like people generalizing against us by saying that all Muslims are terrorists. Since there are groups and organization involved in terrorist activities, it is necessary for people to be specific when they mention terrorists. Otherwise it will cause more problems.
Those scholars ur reffering to, do they give fatwa that are against Qur'an and Sunnah. I've heard some scholars are giving Riba banks thumbs up in some so called Islamic countries. Are these the types of scholars u are bashing?

We cannot stop them from worshiping snakes with arguments. I know that I also cannot stop somebody from blindly following the so called scholars, but I can give my arguments so to keep their potential targets alert.

We don't, or at least I don't, blindly follow anything except the Qur'an and Sunnah. I follow any scholar whose life and actions is based on the Shari'ah . When the start straying then one should stop listening to them.

wasalam
-SI-

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Sis, I'm not part of a particular Madhab. I didnt know about this stuff till recently. But because im doubtful, I cover anyway. I dont know what to pick. It wont harm me if I cover. And if I dont, I dont know if im doing something wrong. So I cover to be on the safe side.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

We don't, or at least I don't, blindly follow anything except the Qur'an and Sunnah. I follow any scholar whose life and actions is based on the Shari'ah . When the start straying then one should stop listening to them.

wasalam
-SI-

Same here.