he's not a dhimmi

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The creator of this thread (which should have been deleted the moment it was created) is an unjustly hateful moron who should have been banned the moment he created the thread.
 
There is no need to leave EricH, you have been a valuable member on this forum. :)
 
With great power comes great responsibility.

Only a worthy few can wield the ban hammer..

Although some might go for a high score on whack a mole..

Time will tell..

Post counts will tumble.
 
The creator of this thread (which should have been deleted the moment it was created) is an unjustly hateful moron who should have been banned the moment he created the thread.

Isn't it forbidden to insult in this forum? And 3 people even liked this. Also he didn't say that he hates him, but only that their is no need for special treatining (although I am not long enough in this forum to understand what he means).
 
It is topics like these that needs to be discussed in more depth.

We should be understanding towards the kafirs when giving dawah, and not label them all as hateful, conspiring enemies of Islam.

some are just ignorant........ Or just doesn't know any better. We should always be positive when giving dawah, not negative. :)
 
Isn't it forbidden to insult in this forum? And 3 people even liked this. Also he didn't say that he hates him, but only that their is no need for special treatining (although I am not long enough in this forum to understand what he means).

Treatening :|

Hopefully a deliberate typo..

May Allah swt have mercy upon us. Honestly I don't know how you people act IRL..

:|

...I need a holiday, maybe I should leave.
 
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"Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly." (5:82)

Being members of Islamic Board, all non-Muslims here are protected by IslamicBoard's rules and regulations. Nobody is allowed to hurt them unjustly.

Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. [Al-Mumtahinah 8]

Don't do

I heard u intend to leave us , don’t do..
U tend to have another love ,another friend, don’t do..

Don’t steal us from us and dont go far places
Oh! moon, the universe is overwhelmed for the sake of u

U are are overwhelminh us and going now , don’t do..
Oh! person, ur rank is between existence and absence

How u can leaving this existence, don’t do…
If u turn ur face to diffrent direction, moon will be totally dark

U intend to destroy house of moon, don’t do…
Our lips will be dry, if u are in difficulty

Now, u are making our eyes wet, don’t do..
If u can not handle with lovers

Why u are surprising when u see real love, don’t do
Ohh, the person who is holding heaven and hell on ur hands

Ur are turning our heaven to hell, don’t do…
If u are poison in our sugar cup, it doesnt harm us

But u are trying to make all sugar poisionus with absence, don’t do..

from Rumi :)

The creator of this thread (which should have been deleted the moment it was created) is an unjustly hateful moron who should have been banned the moment he created the thread.

There is no need to leave EricH, you have been a valuable member on this forum. :)

With great power comes great responsibility.

Only a worthy few can wield the ban hammer..

Although some might go for a high score on whack a mole..

Time will tell..

Post counts will tumble.

It is topics like these that needs to be discussed in more depth.

We should be understanding towards the kafirs when giving dawah, and not label them all as hateful, conspiring enemies of Islam.

some are just ignorant........ Or just doesn't know any better. We should always be positive when giving dawah, not negative. :)

All I'm reading is emotional hatred. I never made fun nor did I insult Eric h rather gave you an Islamic fatwa regarding befriending kuffar and the relationship you should have with the kuffar.

Those who gave me no proof which are the ones I've quoted, have indeed done nothing to throw my points off and instead gave me emotional explanations.

May Allah guide all of you. Backbite me as you wish. Allah will hold us accountable for our deeds.
 
Yahya
The creator of this thread (which should have been deleted the moment it was created) is an unjustly hateful moron who should have been banned the moment he created the thread.

Instead of giving emotional responses, why not use your own proof for your side of the argument? Insulting others won't really get you far.
 
There is a difference between giving dawah to the kuffar and being buddies with them. We can treat them with kindness, give them dawah, but we can't be friends.
 
Being members of Islamic Board, all non-Muslims here are protected by IslamicBoard's rules and regulations. Nobody is allowed to hurt them unjustly.

Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. [Al-Mumtahinah 8]

That is a lame excuse. Islamic board is run by the religion of Islam. The Qur'anic verse goes under heavy conditions. It isn't for an everyday kafir but as you know Allah has put dark dots in hearts he wishes to put in and he is the only one to guide and misguide. I will leave it up to Allah. I've given my proofs. Accept it or live in misery with it.

I've given you points denouncing your love for the disbelievers. Do as you wish but remember my words til the day of judgement. Insh'Allah you'll be judged fairly.
 
There is a difference between giving dawah to the kuffar and being buddies with them. We can treat them with kindness, give them dawah, but we can't be friends.

:jz:

Another sister who Allah has opened eyes to the truth. MashAllah
 
Almighty Allah says in the Qur'an: [h=2]
But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not. [2:216][/h]Follow your desires as you please but realize the consequence of it. May Allah judge us fairly according to our actions. Ameen.
 
Yahya


Instead of giving emotional responses, why not use your own proof for your side of the argument? Insulting others won't really get you far.

All these posts telling the kafir to stay on the forums is a perfect example.

These people run around pleasing the disbelievers. They don't care about their akhirah nor the Islamic fatwa I've presented. Just what's right through ''human nature''.

May Allah hold us accountable.
 
How will scaring the kuffar away help in spreading Islam? Let them stay, as long as they don't cause mischief.

Perhaps 5 years down the line one kafir here may become Muslim, and if we expel them from here, we may be questioned by Allah as to why we expelled a slave of His, when perhaps Allah send the kafir our way?

Don't forget that the spread of Islam starts from ourselves. From our manners.

Always remember - if the dawah is not working - then the problem is you, not the kafir. What will blaming the kafir help in becoming better at dawah?
May Allah forgive me if I said anything wrong. Ameen.
 
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How will scaring the kuffar away help in spreading Islam? Let them stay, as long as they don't cause mischief.

Perhaps 5 years down the line one kafir here may become Muslim, and if we expel them from here, we may be questioned by Allah as to why we expelled a slave of His, when perhaps Allah send the kafir our way?

Don't forget that the spread of Islam starts from ourselves. From our manners.

Always remember - if the dawah is not working - then the problem is you, not the kafir. What will blaming the kafir help in becoming better at dawah?
May Allah forgive me if I said anything wrong. Ameen.

I don't get why you're making random assumptions. I never claimed to kick all the kafirs out. Another emtional post which majority would prefer over an Islamic ruling. N'audubillah what times we live in. Give me authentic proof. Otherwise, I don't believe a single word you're saying. Question the rulings of Islam as you desire but my whole purpose of arguing with some ignorant people isn't to be the hero rather to warn you of Allah's rulings.

They are not my rulings but the rulings of Allah. If you wish to interfere and alter the rulings to your own fit, then you have indeed disbelieved and are not a Muslim.

If you're a Muslim, it's best to gain knowledge and understand other points of views before jumping on and throwing in your onions.

May Allah also guide you.
 
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How will scaring the kuffar away help in spreading Islam? Let them stay, as long as they don't cause mischief.

Perhaps 5 years down the line one kafir here may become Muslim, and if we expel them from here, we may be questioned by Allah as to why we expelled a slave of His, when perhaps Allah send the kafir our way?

Don't forget that the spread of Islam starts from ourselves. From our manners.

Always remember - if the dawah is not working - then the problem is you, not the kafir. What will blaming the kafir help in becoming better at dawah?
May Allah forgive me if I said anything wrong. Ameen.

I need proof. Not explanations.
 
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Greetings and peace be with you Umar Ibn Farooq;

my whole purpose of arguing with some ignorant peopleMay Allah also guide you.

If your facts were convincing, you would not have to argue, calling people ignorant is not going to help your cause, even if you are right.

May Allah also guide you.

Thank you, if that comment is meant for me as well.

Blessings

Eric
 
Greetings and peace be with you all,

Thank you all for the help and kindness you have shown me over the years, it is very much appreciated. In times of unrest, I am reminded of the signiture I use, 'You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God.'

Greetings and peace be with you Umar,

You seemed to like this reply by Sister101

Originally Posted by Sister101

There is a difference between giving dawah to the kuffar and being buddies with them. We can treat them with kindness, give them dawah, but we can't be friends.

Now we don't have to be friends, but I am happy with kindness, you can even give dawah.

In the spirit of praying to 'One God'

May Allah bless all of you and may he guide us.

Eric
 
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