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Hello, my name is Damhain. I am a pagan and full time student. I am curious to converse with other Muslims because a friend I made in college is a Muslim and it is the first time I have ever even had a Muslim friend yet alone conversed with a Muslim so it got me curious. I am very knowledgeable about religions due to my constant studying and interest in philosophy which Islam has contributed a lot of I should add.

. . . so yeah, that's it :D
 
:bism: (In the name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)

Welcome to the board!

There's a lot of sections in here, and you can browse at your leisure and participate in anything that interests you.

If you have any questions or concerns or want to satisfy your curiosity, feel free to create a new thread and do so, and we'll In-sha-Allah (Arabic transliterated word that means "God-willing") be happy to answer you.

Wishing you a beneficial and a generally awesome stay on IB,
 
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:bism: (In the name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)

Welcome to the board!

There's a lot of sections in here, and you can browse at your leisure and participate in anything that interests you.

If you have any questions or concerns or want to satisfy your curiosity, feel free to create a new thread and do so, and we'll In-sha-Allah (Arabic transliterated word that means "God-willing") be happy to answer you.

Wishing you a beneficial and a generally awesome stay on IB,
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:D thanks. I am actually roughly familiar in how to read Arabic and am no newbie to Islam :p. My aq'ul (mind) is very well versed
 
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Welcome here . Feel free to browse the forum and ask about Islam in related threads .
 
Hi Danhain, welcome to IB :).

Looking forward to the knowledge you have to share :thumbs_up.
 
TotalSubmission said:
Hello, my name is Damhain. I am a pagan and full time student. I am curious to converse with other Muslims because a friend I made in college is a Muslim and it is the first time I have ever even had a Muslim friend yet alone conversed with a Muslim so it got me curious. I am very knowledgeable about religions due to my constant studying and interest in philosophy which Islam has contributed a lot of I should add.

. . . so yeah, that's it :D
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Can you explain a little more about your belief system?

What gods do you worship and how is this worship done?
 
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Can you explain a little more about your belief system?

What gods do you worship and how is this worship done?
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I am a pagan which is a VERY broad and I mean very very broad word that pretty much encompasses the older polytheistic (or henotheistic) religions. As for me I am an eclectic pagan so I am not very fond of cultural traditions.
But to make it simple . . .


  • I am a hard polytheist
  • I worship numerous gods (primarily Sumerian, but it does not end there)
  • I worship through means of ritual, magic or prayer although usually it is all 3
  • I worship multiple times a day
  • I worship gods like Baal, Diana, Inanna or Enlil

Things you should know as well are . . .
  • I do not believe in revelation at least not in any Abrahamic sense
  • Although I am a polytheist it does not mean I view gods as equals (most polytheists don't)
  • I do not believe in divine intervention the way you probably do as well
 
Welcome to the forum.

Nice intro to self! Hopefully you'll find us inviting ;)

:peace:
 
TotalSubmission said:
Hello, my name is Damhain. I am a pagan and full time student. I am curious to converse with other Muslims because a friend I made in college is a Muslim and it is the first time I have ever even had a Muslim friend yet alone conversed with a Muslim so it got me curious. I am very knowledgeable about religions due to my constant studying and interest in philosophy which Islam has contributed a lot of I should add.. . . so yeah, that's it :D
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I've some simple questions regarding your faith:1: How many gods you believe in? And Why?2: Which is the super god? And Why ?3: Do your so called gods quarrel each other in controlling this universe? If not why?4: Do they follow any laws? If yes, who made these laws?5: What are the qualities of your god/gods? Do any of us have these qualities?6: If any god of yours violate the laws then who punish him/them?Prove the above Questions with evidence.
 
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azc said:
I've some simple questions regarding your faith:1: How many gods you believe in? And Why?2: Which is the super god? And Why ?3: Do your so called gods quarrel each other in controlling this universe? If not why?4: Do they follow any laws? If yes, who made these laws?5: What are the qualities of your god/gods? Do any of us have these qualities?6: If any god of yours violate the laws then who punish him/them?Prove the above Questions with evidence.
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I believe in as many gods as their are stars (fanciful for as many that have names). I am a polytheist from reason, there are multiple gods known, each distinct to a lesser or greater degree and each unique in essential origin.
The primary deity is relative to the person, pantheon or nature of gods at any given time. As an example I would point to the rise of Athena over Zeus due to her more desired qualities being more representative of man in Greece during that era.
Yes gods quarrel, no differently than angels and man. If they do, they do and it is not my right to judge. Everything is opposed to each despite their harmony.
I do not follow any laws, if laws were to be made the gods would have made it clear. No such god as far as I know has given man any kind of law or sustainable witness.
As for qualities: they posses the quality of being aware and physical. They are not omniscient, all powerful or omnipresent. If Apollo is present in the writing of men then he only knows what is in the writing of men. We as humans posses the same qualities. We know only what we can witness when we are present.

By laws you are implying laws meant to govern man. There are no laws to govern man and no laws to govern gods.
 
TotalSubmission said:
I believe in as many gods as their are stars (fanciful for as many that have names). I am a polytheist from reason, there are multiple gods known, each distinct to a lesser or greater degree and each unique in essential origin. The primary deity is relative to the person, pantheon or nature of gods at any given time. As an example I would point to the rise of Athena over Zeus due to her more desired qualities being more representative of man in Greece during that era. Yes gods quarrel, no differently than angels and man. If they do, they do and it is not my right to judge. Everything is opposed to each despite their harmony. I do not follow any laws, if laws were to be made the gods would have made it clear. No such god as far as I know has given man any kind of law or sustainable witness.As for qualities: they posses the quality of being aware and physical. They are not omniscient, all powerful or omnipresent. If Apollo is present in the writing of men then he only knows what is in the writing of men. We as humans posses the same qualities. We know only what we can witness when we are present.By laws you are implying laws meant to govern man. There are no laws to govern man and no laws to govern gods.
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without concrete proof this kind of faith is flawed.Faith based on imaginations, concocted dogmas or baseless conjecture can't be accepted by any sane person
 
azc said:
without concrete proof this kind of faith is flawed.Faith based on imaginations, concocted dogmas or baseless conjecture can't be accepted by any sane person
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No it is traditions and assumptions. Myth improves the quality of man's life, it does not provide truth. Placing religion in a realm of truth is misleading, plain and simple considering that it holds no proof which you value so much.
My proof is the fact that wind blows, the sun sets and seasons change. I need nothing else.

You are also placing unneeded qualifications on religion and especially deities. Deities don't require laws, proofs or anything Islam has. They are not the same and don't hold the same standards.
Nothing is wrong with being different
 
TotalSubmission said:
I am a pagan which is a VERY broad and I mean very very broad word that pretty much encompasses the older polytheistic (or henotheistic) religions. As for me I am an eclectic pagan so I am not very fond of cultural traditions.
But to make it simple . . .


  • I am a hard polytheist
  • I worship numerous gods (primarily Sumerian, but it does not end there)
  • I worship through means of ritual, magic or prayer although usually it is all 3
  • I worship multiple times a day
  • I worship gods like Baal, Diana, Inanna or Enlil

Things you should know as well are . . .
  • I do not believe in revelation at least not in any Abrahamic sense
  • Although I am a polytheist it does not mean I view gods as equals (most polytheists don't)
  • I do not believe in divine intervention the way you probably do as well
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Interesting, so you don't believe these gods interact with you or creation, yet you worship them?
what evidence do you have they are actually real and not the from the imagination of others?
 

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