Hijab

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irsha said:
Yes I realise that, but it is a clear example of rules changing to suit the times
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It is not our rules that have changed. It is Western rules. Why should we live under their rules? Why impose their rules on us?
 
I noticed the women wearing hate signs on their hijabs, this just reinforces the stereotype of muslims being full of hate, why do you show that?
 
I would like to see the exact verse if you have it, or if anyone else can produce it, not just verses on modesty, actual descriptions of hijab.
 
There you go again getting shirty, ok, I think it is relevant, as its on their hijabs, but dont worry I wont bother you any more
 
Salaam

The Qur'an - An-Nur 24:30

Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.). That is purer for them. Verily, Allâh is All-Aware of what they do.

And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islâm), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allâh to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.
 
Sorry, but isn't the bits in brackets added? Those bits in brackets are interpretations, those words are not in the koran, are they?
 
irsha said:
Sorry, but isn't the bits in brackets added? Those bits in brackets are interpretations, those words are not in the koran, are they?
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Salaam

It's a transalation, the bits in the brackets are telling the person what is ment by the verses.
 
So really the koran says this:
"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and protect their private parts and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their women or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allâh to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful."
I am sorry, but there is no requirement to wear the hijab here. This could just be read to not show your private parts, as in genitals, most of the west already does this.
 
irsha said:
So really the koran says this:
"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and protect their private parts and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their women or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allâh to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful."
I am sorry, but there is no requirement to wear the hijab here. This could just be read to not show your private parts, as in genitals, most of the west already does this.
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Salaam

You aint the user "Ameen" by any chance.
 
I am sorry, I don't know what you mean? Do you think I am someone else? No, lol, I am not. I have been to two other sites, but this last few days is my first here.:) Why, does that person have similar views to me?
I gotta go now, talk again soon
 
Assalamu Alaikum

Please refer to the following threads on Aisha’s marriage and on slave- girls

http://www.islamicboard.com/refutations/8369-slave-girls.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/refutations/5337-marriage-aisha-prophet-pbuh.html



Hi irsha.

How should one understand the Qur'an?

According to how the Prophet (pbuh) and the companion ‘s understood it. You can never understand the Qur’an according to your own context.

Also the Qur'an and the Sunnah go hand in hand. Some thing that is mention in the Qur'an the hadith's can never contradict it other wise that hadiths is fabricated. The Qur'an is more in need of the Sunnah then the sunnah is in need of the Qur'an. Why? I'll provide you with an example. The salaah (prayer)- the Qur'an only tells you to pray 5 times a day etc but it doesn't tell you how to pray. The Sunnah goes into depth, it tells you all the rituals and rules. Thus when it comes to the Hijab you have to understand how the sahaba understood it.
 
:sl: sis i was once like you i was worried how my family would handel me reverting to islam and the frist time i put on the hijab but i did and even now my family are not happy about me wearing hijab i still wear it becouse i do whats right for me i love my family and always will and make duas for the that alla(swt) will guide them ask allah (swt) to help you sis he will guide you on to the right path inshaallah:w:
 

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