Hillary's team has questions about Obama's Muslim background

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just one problem..........she says she has no desire to run because she can do more good doing what she is now than if she is in office
 
Though there is a 50 - 50 choice as i would see it in another view in case if obama was to be elected then there is a chance that he might correspond to the ruthless activities of Bush.

In case if Hillary was elected and if she was as noble as they say then no issues and in case if they try to invade gulf nations jus for pride then as for the current president she may oppose and in case of fellow Republican wat would be her thoughts on it.

we shall hope to see for it
 
tomtomsmom said:
personally i am ashamed at the sate of this union. there once was a time that everyone caould say that they were proud to be an american but alas that time has come and gone. hopefully it will be that way again. i don't want my son to grow up knowing that the rest of the world hates him for something he had no control over.:
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i feel just like you do. :cry:
 
When I was a kid parents used to tell there kids that they "could grow up to be President" as words of encourgement.





Today they use those same words as a threat to keep the kids from misbehaving.
 
wilberhum said:
I understand that there is not one proclaimed Atheists in congress. :rant:
Does anyone know if that is true?
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Recent polls in the US have revealed Atheists to be the most disliked and leaste trusted group in the US, and have shown voters to not vote for somebody because they are atheist than for them being any religion, including Islamic or Wiccan,
 
tomtomsmom said:
the only way i can think of america as a whole accepting a woman or person of color as president is if oprah runs for office!
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I've thought about this! She would win in a landslide and she wouldn't even have to campaign. Just add her name to the ballot at the last minute.
 
Count DeSheep said:
Odd...There is an Athiest I know at school. She is very popular, involved in many clubs, makes excellent grades, is in all honors classes, and to my knowledge, she has never been discriminated against because of her religious beliefs. I realize that school and Congress are two very different places, but still...Makes be wonder what America will be like in 20 years or so. Assuming it's still called America then.
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It isn't like this is a new phenomena. A self-proclaimed athiest would have found it impossible to win election in 1800.
 
Keltoi said:
It isn't like this is a new phenomena. A self-proclaimed athiest would have found it impossible to win election in 1800.
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Yet during that same era we had 4 Presidents in a row that had no religious affiliation and did not attend any church on a regular basis.

Lincoln
Johnson
Grant
Hayes


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidential_religious_affiliations

Although they did not claim to be athiestic, the public did raise some concern about them during their terms in office, but their non-religious affiliation was never a major campaign issue.
 
Woodrow said:
Yet during that same era we had 4 Presidents in a row that had no religious affiliation and did not attend any church on a regular basis.

Lincoln
Johnson
Grant
Hayes


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidential_religious_affiliations

Although they did not claim to be athiestic, the public did raise some concern about them during their terms in office, but their non-religious affiliation was never a major campaign issue.
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The key word is "proclaimed." If Lincoln had given a speech before his election and stated.."I am an athiest, to me God does not exist.", he wouldn't have been elected. Two of the names you mentioned, Lincoln and Grant, were elected primarily because of their supposed leadership qualities, although that wasn't so apparent with Grant, who had a failed presidency in most respects. So if the politician says the right things politically, and doesn't alienate the religious voter, they are okay. If a politician stands up and proclaims his athiesm to the world, he would have and will have a hard time getting enough votes to win an election.
 
You found the key words.

So if the politician says the right things politically, and doesn't alienate the religious voter,
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I guess us Americans are funny people.
 
who is running for the republicans? I have always been republican, and to me it is Obama is a black Muslim, Hilary is a woman, and Edwards is a moron. Democrats should find a better candidate. As far as the mudslinging goes, democrats are all about it, look at their history, it always seems to be a smear campaign, and to me why would I vote for someone who gets to office like that? However saying that Republicans are just as bad in some cases
 
oh and something else to think about, Obama has no foreign affairs experience, Hilary voted for the war in Iraq and I wouldnt want a woman in control of the US Military and again John Edwards is a moron:happy:
 
MTAFFI said:
who is running for the republicans? I have always been republican, and to me it is Obama is a black Muslim, Hilary is a woman, and Edwards is a moron. Democrats should find a better candidate. As far as the mudslinging goes, democrats are all about it, look at their history, it always seems to be a smear campaign, and to me why would I vote for someone who gets to office like that? However saying that Republicans are just as bad in some cases
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It looks like John McCain, Rudy Guilliani, and Mit Romney are the Republican frontrunners at this point.
 
anyways I wouldnt mind seeing John McCain or Rudy Guilliani, Republicans could win with either of those two, I will have to read more about them to find out what their experience is though, other than already having been a mayor or in congress
 
no one cares about who u pick as president, as long as ur policies remain the same then ur country will not make any progress, its time u show some fairness in the mid-east and so on instead of 500% biasness towards israel and treating muslims as 3rd class ppl cause its going to get you nowhere.
 
everyday ppl in iraq die because of u and ur stupid policies, do u know that? while u come here talking about stupid votes and president as if its a big deal PPL ARE DYING because of ur countries policies, so who cares about ur silly elections, u start changing ur goverments policies instead of talking nonsense while our ppl die because ur goverments doing.
 
This thread is serving no purpose except instigating unwarranted comments.:threadclo
 
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