Hindu books from God too?

[جوري]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem,



Even if I add that to the part I quoted it still the same:

I really don't know why Dr. Naik chooses to spread da3wa to the Hindus in my personal opinion I think he should stay as far away from them as possible.. whomever seeks the light of Allah swt, s/he shall find it, without all these acrobatics some scholars chose to subscribe to..​

It is still saying he should not give da'wah, and the reason being, whoever seeks the light of Allah swt will find it. That is not a reason for not giving da'wah. If Allah did not use people people to give me da'wah then I wonder whether I would be a Muslim. The way I am understanding that statement is like saying, don't go working, whatever is written as provision will be for you, I am hoping you didn't mean it like that.

I think every post I have written thus far is replete with what I meant, even if I didn't explain it repeatedly prior to your chosen quote? I don't think he should give them da3wa, I think he is going about it all wrong! (Yes-My opinion)

Again I don't understand how possibly this is a point, maybe you mean he shouldn't give dua3wa in that way... But giving da'wah should be done, are we gonna stop calling people to Islam because some Kuffar are going to curse Allah?

Though I don't have the hadith handy, indeed, you shouldn't put yourself in a situation by which allowing kuffar to make Allah swt an object of their degradation!

As for the statistics, I think more people are impressed and have greater confidence in Islam due to Zakir Naik than the people who dislike him.

And with all due respect, thought isn't a number.. you'll obviously encounter positive things, given your own point of view and what you see. I don't know personally the numbers to speak with like bravado.. I am curious, as to whether it is worth it, hundreds of insulting websites and sketches on youtube. It was a genuine question!

Do I think giving da'wah by showing similarities and differences is ok? It depends on the time, audience, etc, but I don't see why it would not be. I don't study him so I don't know every detail of his debates/dialogues, thus I am not really here saying Zakir Naik is this or that, I am just saying that I was suprised at the statements made.

Sometimes other people's opinions are surprising indeed.. I don't know why that elicits such a gore like reaction, not from your personally but in general -- I am not going to change my point of view, because the town's folks came after me in a tight net and forgo reason!

To be honest with you sister, I have seen people talk about Miracles of the Qur'an which in the end they looked silly. This doesn't make me think the topic is wrong, only that the speaker needs more knowledge.

I do agree with you there, and I can see why they behave as they do, but in the process, the Quran is its own testament, not forged understanding of pagan text!

It depends on the person, I was interested to find the claims that Muhammad was spoken of in the Bible as a Christian.

and was that genuinely what made you convert? irregardless of the subject matter of our topic?

Again, I don't think that Zakir Naik is saying Islam and the Hindu Scriptures are similar in that. Rather, from what I recall of one of his lectures on this, he spoke about there being nothing like God, a statement taken from Hindu scriptures. Now, I cannot object to that statement. I don't think he has stated that Hinduism is NOW the same as Islam, otherwise there would be no need to give da'wah.

My understanding of the few quotes written
1- finding similarities between Islam and Hinduism
2-Predictions of the prophet Mohamed in Hindu text

if that is not the case then my humble apologies..
I don't have a favorable opinion of Hinduism (I WILL NOT APOLOGIZE FOR THAT) and I don't want it to be made subject of comparison with Islam.
forgive me, but folks who bathe in cow dung as religious ceremony to me seems at best a diametrical opposite of what Islam is on the most basic level.

But just like to study with Christianity, looking at what Jesus might have said etc, he may like to do that with the Hindu Scriptures, and show possible references to the true God and Muhammad after having taken away the rubbish, just like I don't think a Father who rests and gets refreshed is anything like Allah, yet I do think that the Jews had an original scripture which they changed, and if I can find evidence for that then I will show them that.

Even still, at least if you look at Judeo/Christian scriptures, there is some remnant of 'kutub samawaya' as they are indeed people of the book. Not the case with Hinduism.. else why are they not mentioned too as 'people of the book?'

I really don't see a problem with that.

Br.al-Habeshi

Jazaka Allah khyran

 

[BlackMamba]

Well about the whole finding similarities argument, the Quran tells us to do it when giving Da'wah in surah Ali-Imran.
Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah.s Will). (3:64)

Zakir Naik ALWAYS quotes this ayah to tell the audience why he is giving da'wah that way. He is coming to common terms.

 

[doorster]

Well about the whole finding similarities argument, the Quran tells us to do it when giving Da'wah in surah Ali-Imran.
Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah.s Will). (3:64)

Zakir Naik ALWAYS quotes this ayah to tell the audience why he is giving da'wah that way. He is coming to common terms.

who is defined as people of the book? mushriks? okay thanks that is news to me

I always understood it as follows:
3: 64. Say (to Jews and Christians, O Muhammad ): "O people of the Scripture: come to a word that is just between us and you, that we Worship none but The (one) God, and that we associate no partners with him, and that none of us shall take others as lords (e.g. monkeys, cows, calfs, shiva lingum and saints etc.) besides Allâh [The (one) God]. then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims."

 

[Banu_Hashim]

we don't need more Muslims, we need better Muslims

Yep, that's the truth of it.

 

[BlackMamba]

who is defined as people of the book? mushriks? okay thanks that is news to me

I always understood it as follows:
3: 64. Say (to Jews and Christians, O Muhammad ): "O people of the Scripture: come to a word that is just between us and you, that we Worship none but Allâh, and that we associate no partners with him, and that none of us shall take others as lords (e.g. monkeys, cows, shiva lingum etc.) besides Allâh. then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims."

Okay I agree with you that this ayah a talking about the People of the Book. But why can't the same logic be applied when giving dawah to Hindus. And by the way christians are mushriks they associate partners with Allah. (5:72-73)

 

[Zamtsa]

Jazak Allah brother, hopefully that clears things up for people.

wa fiikum barakaallah. Na'am.