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Abu Hurairah
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Stupid question but wot is LI????
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LI = Load Islam, the name of this forum.
Abu Hurairah
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aaah ok - mashallah sure is a TOP FORUM
we have an arabic forum like this in Saudi set up by some brothers (few years back) at our Uni where we discuss similair topics
But this is mashallah coool
we have an arabic forum like this in Saudi set up by some brothers (few years back) at our Uni where we discuss similair topics
But this is mashallah coool
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Asalaam alykum warahmatullahi
Na3am Bro Khaldun u MashAllah managed excellently to confuse most of the members wit ur underground low profiled moves!
SubhanaAllah !!
soo much Vividness to the thread by using code words .. yet de pic is clear! Ha ..Excellent confusion
..Allahamdulilah not to me though!
Indirect yet Articulate,Solid Fiction. Yet 4 Real.
Hmmmm May I ask? did u really wana confuse de ppl ?or was it just a low profiler thread ?
ha Any answer Would be Kheir
May Allah Subhanawatallah reward you abundantly and ur family and Always make You be among the righteous and beloved Servants of Alah SubhanaWatalah.
Jazakhallah Kheir
Barakahtullahi feekh
Wasallam alykum
Na3am Bro Khaldun u MashAllah managed excellently to confuse most of the members wit ur underground low profiled moves!
SubhanaAllah !!
soo much Vividness to the thread by using code words .. yet de pic is clear! Ha ..Excellent confusion
..Allahamdulilah not to me though!
Indirect yet Articulate,Solid Fiction. Yet 4 Real.
Hmmmm May I ask? did u really wana confuse de ppl ?or was it just a low profiler thread ?
ha Any answer Would be Kheir
May Allah Subhanawatallah reward you abundantly and ur family and Always make You be among the righteous and beloved Servants of Alah SubhanaWatalah.
Jazakhallah Kheir
Barakahtullahi feekh
Wasallam alykum
Anastasio Gomez, a Tzotzil Mayan from Mexico, fondly remembers his pilgrimage to Mecca. He circled around the Kaaba, the highest sanctuary of Muslims, seven times. At Mount Arafat he prayed to Allah and then he, together with 15 other Indians, sacrificed a sheep before boarding the flight back to their Mexican home.
"In Islam, race plays no role," the young man says joyously. His enthusiasm is understandable. After all, in his home state of Chiapas, Mexico's poorest, the indigenous people are viewed as second class humans, and whites and Mestizos treat the Indian majority as if they weren't there. In the southern Mexican provincial metropolis San Cristóbal de las Casas, the descendants of the Maya even have to move onto the street if a white person approaches them on the sidewalk.
Gomez, 23, converted to Islam eight years ago; ever since then, he has called himself Ibrahim. On his first pilgrimage seven years ago, the Indian was still something of an anomaly. Today, however, Muslim women in headscarves have become a common sight on the streets of San Cristobal.
Conquerors from Spain
About 300 Tzozil-Indians have converted to Islam in recent years and it's a development that is beginning to worry the Mexican government. Indeed, the government even suspects the new converts of subversive activity and has already set the secret service onto the track of the Mayan Muslims. Mexican President Vincente Fox has even gone so far as to say he fears the influence of the radical fundamentalists of al-Qaida.
But the Indians have no interest in political extremism. Rather, they belong to the Sunni, Murabitun sect that was founded by the Scotsman Ian Dallas and is seen as an offshoot of a Moroccan religious order. The Murabitun followers represent a sort of primal Islam: Earning interest profits through money lending is a no-no and they preach a literal interpretation of the Koran.
"The see themselves as restorers of Islam," says the anthropologist Gaspar Morquecho, author of a study of the Muslims of Chiapas. "Their defiance of capitalism is similar in many respects to the critique of globalization espoused by many left-wingers."
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More and more Mayans are finding their way to Mecca.
While the Mayan Muslims in Chiapas have been receiving extra attention of late, the Tzotzil conversion has been underway for some time. In the mid 1990s, a group of Spanish Muslims embarked to Latin America to spread the word; their leader was Aureliano Perez, who is now worshipped by the Maya-Muslims as Emir Nafia. He offered the Zapatista rebels fighting under Subcomandante Marcos, whom Perez supported, an ideological-religious alliance. Marcos was hesitant to enter the odd pact, but the Muslim missionaries were unperturbed: They discovered that the Tzotzil Indians made up the majority of the Zapatista rebels and were quite open to the teachings of the prophet Mohammed.
The battle for the souls of Chiapas is nothing new. In the 16th century, the Spanish conquistadors used brute force to convert the Indians to Catholicism. Half a millennium later, evangelical preachers from the US have turned Latin America into a religious battleground in their efforts to lure Catholics away from the Church. In the town of San Juan Chamula alone -- whose church is seen as something of a spiritual center by the Tzotzil Indians and attracts thousands of tourists a year -- there are 11 different congregations seeking to save the souls of the Indians.
The loss of cultural roots
The Catholics, however, are still, for the most part, in control. They belong to the mafia-esque former state party PRI run the town hall and the lucrative weekly market. In face of the advance of the evangelists, however, they fear that their influence may be waning and they have chased out more than 30,000 protestant Indians out of San Juan Chamula in the last three decades and hundreds have been killed or assaulted. Most of the refugees settled down in the slums on the outskirts of San Cristobal. Cut off from their cultural and religious roots, the Indians are easy prey for all manner of soul-savers.
"In Islam, the Indians rediscover their original values," claims Esteban Lopez, the Spanish secretary general of the Muslim community. "The Christians destroyed their culture." He presents the use and abuse of alcohol as proof. Alcoholism is wide-spread under Tzotzil Indians and the strict ban on spirits in Islam helps many to break the vicious circle of addiction and poverty.
In San Cristobal, the Mayan Muslims run a pizza shop and a carpenter workshop and they are seen by the whites as hard-working and diligent. In a Koran school, children learn Arabic and five times a day they pray in the backroom of a residential building. Empty congregation halls are not a problem for the new Muslims: Converted Muslims vow to witness the teachings of Mohammed among their families.
Anastasio Gomez -- aka Ibrahim -- for example, has managed to convert his entire family. He is especially proud of the conversion of his 100-year-old grandfather who was member of a Christian sect. "He was wandering from religion to religion all his live. Now he has found his peace of mind with Allah," says Ibrahim.
Chiapas borders Guatemala to the east.
"In Islam, race plays no role," the young man says joyously. His enthusiasm is understandable. After all, in his home state of Chiapas, Mexico's poorest, the indigenous people are viewed as second class humans, and whites and Mestizos treat the Indian majority as if they weren't there. In the southern Mexican provincial metropolis San Cristóbal de las Casas, the descendants of the Maya even have to move onto the street if a white person approaches them on the sidewalk.
Gomez, 23, converted to Islam eight years ago; ever since then, he has called himself Ibrahim. On his first pilgrimage seven years ago, the Indian was still something of an anomaly. Today, however, Muslim women in headscarves have become a common sight on the streets of San Cristobal.
Conquerors from Spain
About 300 Tzozil-Indians have converted to Islam in recent years and it's a development that is beginning to worry the Mexican government. Indeed, the government even suspects the new converts of subversive activity and has already set the secret service onto the track of the Mayan Muslims. Mexican President Vincente Fox has even gone so far as to say he fears the influence of the radical fundamentalists of al-Qaida.
But the Indians have no interest in political extremism. Rather, they belong to the Sunni, Murabitun sect that was founded by the Scotsman Ian Dallas and is seen as an offshoot of a Moroccan religious order. The Murabitun followers represent a sort of primal Islam: Earning interest profits through money lending is a no-no and they preach a literal interpretation of the Koran.
"The see themselves as restorers of Islam," says the anthropologist Gaspar Morquecho, author of a study of the Muslims of Chiapas. "Their defiance of capitalism is similar in many respects to the critique of globalization espoused by many left-wingers."
DPA
More and more Mayans are finding their way to Mecca.
While the Mayan Muslims in Chiapas have been receiving extra attention of late, the Tzotzil conversion has been underway for some time. In the mid 1990s, a group of Spanish Muslims embarked to Latin America to spread the word; their leader was Aureliano Perez, who is now worshipped by the Maya-Muslims as Emir Nafia. He offered the Zapatista rebels fighting under Subcomandante Marcos, whom Perez supported, an ideological-religious alliance. Marcos was hesitant to enter the odd pact, but the Muslim missionaries were unperturbed: They discovered that the Tzotzil Indians made up the majority of the Zapatista rebels and were quite open to the teachings of the prophet Mohammed.
The battle for the souls of Chiapas is nothing new. In the 16th century, the Spanish conquistadors used brute force to convert the Indians to Catholicism. Half a millennium later, evangelical preachers from the US have turned Latin America into a religious battleground in their efforts to lure Catholics away from the Church. In the town of San Juan Chamula alone -- whose church is seen as something of a spiritual center by the Tzotzil Indians and attracts thousands of tourists a year -- there are 11 different congregations seeking to save the souls of the Indians.
The loss of cultural roots
The Catholics, however, are still, for the most part, in control. They belong to the mafia-esque former state party PRI run the town hall and the lucrative weekly market. In face of the advance of the evangelists, however, they fear that their influence may be waning and they have chased out more than 30,000 protestant Indians out of San Juan Chamula in the last three decades and hundreds have been killed or assaulted. Most of the refugees settled down in the slums on the outskirts of San Cristobal. Cut off from their cultural and religious roots, the Indians are easy prey for all manner of soul-savers.
"In Islam, the Indians rediscover their original values," claims Esteban Lopez, the Spanish secretary general of the Muslim community. "The Christians destroyed their culture." He presents the use and abuse of alcohol as proof. Alcoholism is wide-spread under Tzotzil Indians and the strict ban on spirits in Islam helps many to break the vicious circle of addiction and poverty.
In San Cristobal, the Mayan Muslims run a pizza shop and a carpenter workshop and they are seen by the whites as hard-working and diligent. In a Koran school, children learn Arabic and five times a day they pray in the backroom of a residential building. Empty congregation halls are not a problem for the new Muslims: Converted Muslims vow to witness the teachings of Mohammed among their families.
Anastasio Gomez -- aka Ibrahim -- for example, has managed to convert his entire family. He is especially proud of the conversion of his 100-year-old grandfather who was member of a Christian sect. "He was wandering from religion to religion all his live. Now he has found his peace of mind with Allah," says Ibrahim.
Chiapas borders Guatemala to the east.
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Umm... ??? Oriity then..!
Ameen to the dua. :sister:
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Khaldun said:
I think its about time you people get to know about LI and its origins, most of you know maybe that it was a small effort in one college somewhere in the East Midlands that gave "birth" to this website. Believe it or not this whole thing was deviced from the one and only "Genius" and now you know where he got his username from. Well whilst he was the "leader" he wrote this, and i tought i share it with the rest of the people. JazzakAllah Khair Genius (btw dont take it to seriously lol)
We started of as a Militant Organisation aiming to create an Islamic Republic in the South American state of Guatemala, we decided the best way to go about our aims was to stick posters in the college telling girls to 'wear hijab' and to 'make wudhu', however the Jahil Muslims of the College refused, especially at the thought of making 'wudhu'.
The organisation then joined forces with the MG crew with the political muscle of their leader Abu GG, the organisation flourished, unfortunately a former Gulf War veteran took a hostile approach towards the organisation and vowed to track it's leaders down.
The veteran planned his actions to coincide with ongoing millitary operations in Iraq, however his efforts were not successful. With the help of Allah the brave brothers at 'Islamic Regent' ran away and were not caught.
The organisation tried to revive itself as Hizb ul Islam with joined effort from Brother Khaldun and Abu Muslim, but with limited success. Following the failure of his attempts leader Abu Muslim lost all hope and got addicted to 'tic-tacs' his fresh breath is little consolation for the power he once had.
Following months of seclusion brothers of Islamic Regent are re-uniting with a new moderate stance, and have decided to give up armed struggle in favour of political one, as advised by Khaldun
And now after new recruitments such as the famous Kadafi and the rest of the moderating team, we hope that this effort will be kept alive inshAllah
Loqqq Subhanallah!!
Brother Genius :thumbs_up :thumbs_up :thumbs_up Masha Allah!! Although we haven't seen alot of you these days??
We are all proud of you...Brother Khaldun...Kafadi...Abdalla...and A. Mukhtar...and all the undercovers!
Talking of Abdallah and A. Mukhtar where are they these days?? :zip:
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Question:
Who came up with the site name (Load-Islam)??
Who came up with the site name (Load-Islam)??
I'll keep an eye on you mm_ca04.....make that two....
JazzakAllah Khair madeenahsh for your kind words may Allah grant you the same or even better, and to answer ur question no i didnt want to confuse the ppl they confused themselfs hehe
sis Jannah i wud ask u the same if not my eyes are deciving me you havent been around much either khair inshAllah...as for Abdalla and A.Mukhtar they should be around soon inshAllah just need to make dua for them.
to answer your question about the site name we had agreed on a totally different name actually (took us ageees) but then when we joined forces with brother kadafi it ended up as Load-Islam so i think he could explain that more
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Asallam alykum
Ha Bro Khaldun Am not sure about" they " I wasnt confused u see I Knew this was coming sooner or later haa And de code words Ha Excellent u could join de .............Army( i meant)Maybe
Haa InshAllah Kheir
Ha Bro Khaldun Am not sure about" they " I wasnt confused u see I Knew this was coming sooner or later haa And de code words Ha Excellent u could join de .............Army( i meant)Maybe
Haa InshAllah Kheir
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Khaldun said:
I'll keep an eye on you mm_ca04.....make that two....
JazzakAllah Khair madeenahsh for your kind words may Allah grant you the same or even better, and to answer ur question no i didnt want to confuse the ppl they confused themselfs hehe
sis Jannah i wud ask u the same if not my eyes are deciving me you havent been around much either khair inshAllah...as for Abdalla and A.Mukhtar they should be around soon inshAllah just need to make dua for them.
to answer your question about the site name we had agreed on a totally different name actually (took us ageees) but then when we joined forces with brother kadafi it ended up as Load-Islam so i think he could explain that more
well....i went away for a while...i only said my goodbyes to the sisters
Du'a for them ey? Insha Allah!
Kadafi u got some explaining to do!! Come out of hiding!
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Right....Nice name though Masha Allah!
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*sigh* the good college days
seems like a life time ago when it all happened.