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most leaders fear the dominance of islam and thus try make the common people see it as something which shud be kept as just religion and not way of life. If you cant see this then your the one who needs to take head out of sand..
Examples are always good. You have one?

If people didnt care about the "image of islam" then denmark wudnt hav put so much effort into the cartoons,
To express freedom of speach.
salman rushdies book wouldnt have gotten some much popularity and he wouldnt have been knighted
Ahole Kmeaney and his fatwod did that.
, niqaab wudnt be attacked and islamaphobia wudnt be ont he rise.
I think the soure of islamaphocia is Muslims going around blowing up people on there way to work and other acts of terrorism. Blame the terrorist not the terrorized.
i dont understand how you dont see it, people fear islam, only because they dont want a life in which its the dominating factor.
I guess I don't see it because I don't see it. I have no fear of Islam and I don't want Islam as any factor in my life let alone a dominating factor. I have never meet any one who felt much different. I have read what some say and they are truly Islam Haters, but they are a minority.

i've said it so many times that its becoming a bit tiresome, you wish to live a sinful disgraceful shameful (drinking/fornication etc) way of life and islam wishes to dimish that, and due to this islam will always be distorted by its enemies
Now why do you assume that I live a sinful disgraceful shameful (drinking/fornication etc) way of life?
Am I to assume that you think all non-Muslims drink and fornicate all day?
And you assume I have a problem?
 
Do I think Islam is "good?" As a religion, I respect Islam a great deal. It is Muslims that we are discussing. As for your comparison of numbers, that is a pointless debate, especially since you seem concerned about Islam being "good." Should Islam be judged only by actions in comparison to others? Or do you believe Islam is the "true" religion? I would think a "true" religion would be more concerned with following the Word of God, not comparing themselves to others.

The main reason of opening dialogue is to guide you to the righteous Path which is Islam because we know that other ways will misguide you.
if you respect Islam and think its a great deal, what makes you not studying and reading it to find the truth specially and rescue yourself after you know that Islam says that Non-Muslims will be sent to hellfire!!!.

you said above that it is Muslims that we are discussing so why when i talked about comparing Numbers of killing you applied it on Islam and not Muslims!!!, as you said it's Muslims what we are discussing.
 
The main reason of opening dialogue is to guide you to the righteous Path which is Islam because we know that other ways will misguide you.
if you respect Islam and think its a great deal, what makes you not studying and reading it to find the truth specially and rescue yourself after you know that Islam says that Non-Muslims will be sent to hellfire!!!.

you said above that it is Muslims that we are discussing so why when i talked about comparing Numbers of killing you applied it on Islam and not Muslims!!!, as you said it's Muslims what we are discussing.

Well, let me clarify something. While I respect Islam a great deal, that doesn't mean I believe that Islam is the "truth", so to speak. I can respect Islam and Muslims without being one...that is what separates us from animals.
 
ibn laden never killed 6 million people, hitler did, on the other hand i think bush is trying to match hitlers record
 
if you respect something, you should at least know about it, may be your respect might increase, or how you can respect something without knowing about it?!
 
I understand they are common in Pakistani Markets. I have seen a number of pictures.

Comparing Hitler to Bin Laden is like comparing fish to bicycles. :skeleton:
Hitler did it for power; Bin Laden did it for god.

I too would be interested in the source of that 10%.
Well maybe only 10% in the West.
In the East, my guess would be a minimum of 50%.

Speaking of guessing, I would guess about 10% on this forum see Bin Laden as some sort of a hero. Surly a minimum of 90% would not condemn him. Well make that 90% of the Muslims.

WRONG!

Bin Laden also did it for power. You see why else would he seek to control Afghanistan? He should be seeking to establish a united Pashto community, but instead his group supports the establishment of oppressive community devouted to their interpretation of the quran as being the correct interpretation.

You would basically be living an oppressed, fascist version of Iran where the laws against women are even more strict than they are in Saudi Arabia.

Would any muslim woman tolerate such a world if his interpretation would be the correct version of Islam? Would any man tolerate watching their mother, sister, wife, or daughter being stoned or wiped out in the streets for just wealing a non-black veil or other clothing typical muslims wear? Would you really be willing to live in such an environment knowwing that you can't speak against the government without getting shot or worst.

Life in afghanistan was so bad due to Bin Ladin that I would rather be living under the tyranny of Saddam Hussein, Joseph Stalin, or Adolf Hitler. Even as a minority group that was being annihilated by these people, because life was still better under those terms that they were in Bin Ladin's world.

Now can you really say Bin Ladin was truly working for Allah?

Or could we all be sensible to say that he was a delusion, egocentric nut-case and that he was serving for no one but himself while misrepresenting the muslim faith.

ibn laden never killed 6 million people, hitler did, on the other hand i think bush is trying to match hitlers record

Correction, Hitler didn't kill anyone. It was his second in command that made those gas chambers and did so without the fuhrer's knowwing nor approving. But it is true that he despises Jews and would have had them all killed regardlessly.
 
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if you respect something, you should at least know about it, may be your respect might increase, or how you can respect something without knowing about it?!

I know a fair deal about Islam for a person who is not one, and this forum has helped a great deal in that.
 
I know a fair deal about Islam for a person who is not one, and this forum has helped a great deal in that.

It sure had brother. lol

I use to feel quite sympathetic about Islam, but then I started seeing how much of a cult it was in resembling the already established Christian Cults in the United States such as the International Church of Christ, which is a Christian Cult.

People follow Islam blindly and without a sound mind. They appeal more as degenerates than as intellectuals, though not all muslims appear this way. Some muslims such as a few of my own friends are by far more gracious and friendly than anyone I have ever met. But they are by far more muslim than anyone here, except for Northern Malaysian with all do respect.

I Want To Be Part Of Islam But Iam White And English Do You Think I Will Be Accepted Bro?

Is there really any need for you to become a muslim? For you to become a muslim you must become the personal B*tch of a muslim for until you are recongized as a muslim through virtue of acknowledging the koran and speaking the arabic language. LOL!

GOOD FREAKING LUCK!!!

Now lets be sensible about this. How about you join Draneism instead? Unlike Islam, Draneism isn't tied to the interpretation established by another that is subjected onto people like a brainwashing mechanism. You are free to believe what you want and do what is allowed in the Draneian faith. We follow much of the same customs, but more so in some ways than others. We have less members (more like just one, myself), but we are by far the favorable of Allah's faiths.
 
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Please tell us what things he has done.

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I seriously doubt Islam needs a resistance fighter and who are they resisting anyways? They have over two billion followers. How many more do they need to feel satisfyied?
 
I seriously doubt Islam needs a resistance fighter and who are they resisting anyways? They have over two billion followers. How many more do they need to feel satisfyied?

The whole world must convert to Islam, otherwise our mission goes on until the day of judgment insha Allah.
 
The whole world must convert to Islam, otherwise our mission goes on until the day of judgment insha Allah.

But Allah says that Islam is a previously favored denomination of his faith that has preceded its needed work. Sikhism with all do respect seceded Islam as did the Bahai'i and Druze Fath.

And those faiths have been seceded by Draneism, which works in the favoring respect of individual faith.

Draneism with all do respect is Allah's new cherish faith in promoting global pacifism.

Islam was dumped by Allah the very second women started to lose their rights and Christianity was dumbed the very second Jesus's true successor (Judas) was ultimately murdered by his fellow followers.

You are allowed to follow whatever faith you want, but when your faith begins to control people and restrict them from making their own choices and their own faith in god it then is no longer favored by god.
 
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Islam was dumped by Allah the very second women started to lose their rights and Christianity was dumbed the very second Jesus's true successor (Judas) was ultimately murdered by his fellow followers.

Oh, I see that you are one of the nutcases that occassionally have the misfortunate of expressing their stupidity and humiliating themselves thereafter.
 
Oh, I see that you are one of the nutcases that occassionally have the misfortunate of expressing their stupidity and humiliating themselves thereafter.

There is no need for you to express your bigotry and insult me thereafter.

Why can't we all just get along?
 
Why you dont try to read about Islam and be a Muslim, if you feel that some people try to put it in bad light while you think Islam is Light?!

You didn't get the Metaphore 'putting something in an bad light' ?

Like ISLAMASWEENEY think, it has nothing to do with electric or something !:D

Thanks for your invitation to Islam, but no thanks, I'm a person who likes freedom.
 
*shakes head* Please everyone, don't think all of us think the way islamasweeney does.

no we don't, and don't worry, the forum admins and mods target them fast out. Somehow, this guy remember me somebody..who was b... , nahh, never mind !
 
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